User talk:Candalua

English version of ePub reader
Will you guys be developing an english ePub also? If so, can you keep me updated? - Tannertsf (talk) 19:57, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tannertsf, one of our goals is to make a generic tool that should work on every language subdomain without particular problems. At the moment, we haven't tested it on English pages yet, but when we do we will tell you. And when it'll be finished, we will surely make a more "official" announcement. :-) Candalua (talk) 20:25, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

What is the timeframe for availability of the epub reader? - Tannertsf (talk) 18:13, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

iwtrans?
Is iwtrans different from iwpages?--Doug.(talk • contribs) 11:04, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Yep! Iwpages if for Page namespace, iwtrans is for ns0. --Candalua (talk) 12:22, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually not, iwpage is for pagespace, iwpages is for mainspace. However, your iwtrans appears to work elsewhere and is not the same thing at all.  How does it function without ScaryTransclusion?


 * BTW, it's probably related to namespace problems that I've already submitted bugs on for la.ws but your bot template doesn't link to the right namespace on it.ws.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 18:03, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok, more exactly:
 * iwpage: Page -> Page
 * iwpages: Page(s) -> ns0
 * iwtrans: ns0 -> ns0

iwtrans works in the same way of the others, it uses InterWikiTransclusion.js, it seems to have been created first time on la.source, then ported to ca.source by user:Aleator, where I found it; but strangely it hadn't been imported to other wikis.

What do you mean, my bot template doesn't link to right ns? it works, from what I see... Candalua (talk) 18:19, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow, very useful looking, and it appears to work on other namespaces too, as you are using it in userspace.
 * Go to la.ws to la:Usor:CandalBot and click on the link to your username inside the bot template.  This isn't likely a problem with the template.  It's probably the same problem that has been plaguing the project for years and I recently filed a bugzilla on; see la:Vicifons:Scriptorium issue number 1.  Though maybe it's a separate problem.  If you can help us figure out the problem, please do! ;-)--Doug.(talk • contribs) 18:43, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Oh, now I see what you were talking about! Well, this seems enough to solve it. Candalua (talk) 18:50, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, just the more general problem of namespaces on subdomains, or, in my opinion, the general problem of subdomains. ;-) We have a more specific problem that is the topic of the bugzilla. --Doug.(talk • contribs) 19:40, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

CandalBot
Hi,

CandalBot now has a bot flag.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 15:51, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

IW of Mediawiki pages
Hello,

Can you please explain the need to inter-language (or IW) tag the en.WS Mediawiki/Special pages? -- George Orwell III (talk) 20:20, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Uh? Can you please explain why we should not do it? What's wrong in having interwikis at Special:IndexPages? They can be a useful shortcut. I really don't understand your revert, should I guess that only de and fr are "entitled" to have an interwiki link? Candalua (talk) 20:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * 'Uh' Eh? Well if you are going to go and create those pages on every single(some?) sister WS language(?) site for the very first time (today afaict) then I guess you can rationalize adding them here quite easily. To the best of my recollection - the only reason we had .de .fr there was for the developer's benefit (ThomasV, Phe...) during a past stage of changes being made to the extension (if there was any reason for them to exist at all).


 * I have no issue with adding anything here and just would have appreciated some insight on the reasoning behind whatever it is you are doing was all. -- George Orwell III (talk) 21:24, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, my reasoning is pretty simple: we have interwikis on Special:Recentchanges, for people to easily check the recent changes in every language. So why don't have them on some other useful page? Apart from MediaWiki:Proofreadpage specialpage text (useful -at least for me- to compare the number of books on every wikisource, and their general level of completion), the ones that come to my mind are:


 * MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index template, which in fact is a template, and we usually put interwikis in templates
 * MediaWiki:Statistics-footer, to compare statistics (but I'm not sure about this one, the numbers there are not always reliable,so maybe it's not very useful)

Not many pages, as you see. Maybe you were concerned that I would create too many pages? Candalua (talk) 21:55, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well sort of but not in that case...
 * Fwiw... I don't think we put anything in Template: or template like titles but rather put them in the adjoining template documentation to avoid just such unnecessary regeneration on every page using the template in question. I understand that some MediaWiki pages have do-nothing titles that "act" as place holders or as if they were template documentation in practice but I'm not sure that is the right thing to be doing in the first place, let alone carry the same possible in-elegance further to every available language.WS. I'm just not well-versed in any of this so I may be concerned over nothing at the end of the day. -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:10, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

I know that. Yesterday I fixed interwiki links for Special:Recentchanges. On subdomains where iw links were inside a separate page, I dix my fix there, instead of the Mediawiki page. There are pros and cons in putting interwikis directly inside the page they refer to: the pro is that we can maintain them automatically, and I think this is very important because you can compare different version of the same template and see if some subdomain discovered a better solution than your own. The con is the one you mentioned. My opinion is that the pro is more important, but I'm leaving this to be decided indipendently by each subdomain. Candalua (talk) 13:58, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You think its important - I think you are choking en.WS with languages that will never utilize any of this to any measureable degreee. Just because you can does not mean you must - I'd rather see some concerted efforts, such as we've seen from fr.WS and de.WS among a handful of other sisters, specifically calling for such en.WS integration. If I'm mistaken and there has been consensus built in each and every language wiki then no problem but I am dubious that such conversation has taken place. -- George Orwell III (talk) 17:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm very tired of this. choking?!? Just because I added some interwikis?!? I hope you are joking! And since when do we need explicit consensus for interwikis?!? Anyway, I've told you my opinions, if you want to revert you are free to do it, I'm not going to impose my point of view in any way. Candalua (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

CandalBot @ is.wikisource
Your bot, CandalBot has caught my attention since he has been running on is.wikisource since 7. august 2011 without an bot-flag. Before I even start reviewing your bot´s edits there are two things I´d like to mention. --Snaevar (talk) 11:19, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Please update your bot
 * 2) Submit a bot-flag request at is:Wikiheimild:Potturinn or at least provide information about your bot, whether it´s manual or automatic and specify your bot tasks.

Informations about the bot are now available in the bot page on is.wikisource (but anyway you could have looked the bot page here on en.source). As you can read, I'm running a patch for multiple interwikis. For this reason I'm not updating to pywikipedia's latest version, because if I do, I must re-test the patch for that version, and currently I don't have time for that. About the bot flag, it has a global flag so you should just implement the standard bot policy. Thank you, Candalua (talk) 13:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

(Now that I see: only 24 contributions on is.source from last August... CandalBot is clearly not flooding your recent changes, why are you asking for a flag? it doesn't seem you need it) Candalua (talk) 13:42, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Where to place the purge code?
Hi, and thanks for clearing the cache. Much appreciate your offer of the javascript purge code but I have no idea where to place it. Could you kindly show me this time and I can learn from it. Thanks. — Ineuw talk 19:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Now that I see, here on en.source you already have the purge button! :-) But it's very well hidden... If you have activated the "Clock and Purge" gadget from your preferences -> gadgets, you can click on the clock in the right upper corner and it does the purge! Really an awkward place to put it, but anyway... Candalua (talk) 20:20, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The clock and purge is no longer visible/accessible since the mw1.19 software update. Have it checked and I know that it's there because when I opened this page to write this reply, it flashed on and then disappeared. In any case, I would be interested to know where to place the it.purge code, as I am ignorant of many things. I am now disabling the clock purge (again). — Ineuw talk 21:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

It's really simple, you need to create MediaWiki:Gadget-purgetab.js based on it:MediaWiki:Gadget-purgetab.js, and then update MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition adding a line for purgetab.js, like you see on it:MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition. Candalua (talk) 21:49, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It seems that this gadget existed earlier and was removed in 2009 by the admins.:-). Nevertheless, I appreciate your stepping me through how MediaWiki extensions can be added. I will wait until the clock-purge is repaired. It works for some and not for others. Thanks again. — Ineuw talk 22:40, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Why did your bot undo my edits?
Why did your bot undo my edits on the Esperanto, French and Spanish versions of Wikisource? We have more than one translation of Blue Beard and Sleeping Beauty here on the English Wikisource and I think it makes more sense to link to the versions page instead of to one specific translation. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 14:34, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Simon, sorry for answering so late. The reason is that there was a subdomain still linking to that specific translation (ru in the case of Blue Beard, fr in the case of Sleeping Beauty). So this particular page was used instead of the disambig page. If you prefer linking the latter, you should update the link on all other subdomains. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any doubts. Ciao Candalua (talk) 10:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)