Wikisource talk:Proofread of the Month/archive

The Pilgrim Cookbook
This is a text with over 150 pages. It is a good candidate because it has fractions in it which are time consuming. In addition, the text has the complete OCR text. --Mattwj2002 05:39, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this would be a good candidate to be next, and promoted on our front page. It doesnt appear in the PG catalog, and isnt an outstanding project being worked on by PGDP.
 * Every page contains a few simple recipes, and most readers will find this topic at least a little bit interesting.
 * p.s. There is another Pilgrim Cookbook printed in 1633 which would be great to find while we are at it. John Vandenberg (chat) 03:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks like it would be fun. Jeepday (talk) 11:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * This work has not progressed as fast as some others (ok, one other). I had thought the short segments and non-modern cooking directions would prove helpful to getting volunteers. I find that for myself the darkened background of the paper makes it to challenging to read comfortably (I must be getting old) and detracts from the enjoyment of reading the work. I think that is one thing that most makes me not proof read this text everyday. Jeepday (talk) 00:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * With 124 remaining pages to check and (in theory) 10 members of the group, we only need to proofread two pages a day to get it (damn near) finished before the end of the month. It's doable... EVula // talk // 01:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Horsemanship
One of the three works on Horsemanship. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:36, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind doing Index:Equitation.djvu for August. It's already completely proofed and just needs to be validated.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 14:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I would also like to see Index:Equitation.djvu for August. --Mattwj2002 01:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added Equitation to this month's PotM.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 14:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

PotM February 2009?
Do we have texts not too long for February? I have thought of one or two Lays of Marie de France or something like that. What do you think of the idea?---Zyephyrus (talk) 23:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll support it for February PotM.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 14:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've extracted all the text in case we decide to do this one.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 15:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have updated PotM per above.Jeepday (talk) 11:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Good news :)---Zyephyrus (talk) 01:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Index:Aristotelous peri psuxes.djvu
This isnt on PG, and isnt in the queue on PGDP. %22On the Vital Principle%22 ranks us as hit 1, so it would be nice to present readers with a quality text. John Vandenberg (chat) 06:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this would be a good next PotM. We haven't done a philosophical work yet (obviously) and we haven't ever had one featured as a featured text, either.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 13:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Selected. John Vandenberg (chat) 02:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Emily Dickinson Poems (1890)
Poems (Dickinson) is not completed, yet we have an index which looks as if it is complete. This work is already on PG, but I would like to see our collection given a better provenance. John Vandenberg (chat) 07:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I would love to see this be the next PotM. For whatever reason, it just "feels" like a good one to have completed. I apologize for the incredibly vague and hazy phrase. :) EVula // talk // 20:27, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I support this too, and can't explain what a feeling is either :)- --Zyephyrus (talk) 10:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * This one for November? EVula // talk // 19:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would like it.- --Zyephyrus (talk) 20:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Selected! John Vandenberg (chat) 23:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Vague and nebulous emotions ftw! :) EVula // talk // 17:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Our American Holidays - Christmas
It's nearly Christmas time again. This work is a copy&paste task, as the text is on PG. It should give us lots of new ideas and material for our Christmas special. John Vandenberg (chat) 08:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks like fun. Jeepday (talk) 23:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed; terrificly timely topic. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, agreed; it will be pleasant to spend our time with this in December :) - --Zyephyrus (talk) 13:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. Looks like fun.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 01:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes_check.svg|20px| ]] Done John Vandenberg (chat) 17:00, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Popular Science Monthly
I would really like to see a Popular Science Monthly volume proofread for next month. I am not sure what volume would be best, but it has been suggested a later edition so we could link back to older editions. I know there has been a lot of interest in having more scientific works on Wikisource and that is one of the reasons, I would like to see one of these volumes proofread. Also, this is a new project I have started and I could really use some help. Anyways that is my two cents. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 06:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The first issue would be interesting; I've already started on it. — Pathoschild 06:39:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the best text to do would be Popular Science Monthly Volume 86. Jayvdb fould the proofread text on the Gutensberg project. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 07:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * That's already proofread, so there's little point to proofreading it further. — Pathoschild 07:31:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * One of these should be selected for next month. I would prefer to do the copy&paste&fix job of issue 86, but the first issue would also be a great addition. John Vandenberg (chat) 08:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I will be happy to discover either one or the other of these, or both.---Zyephyrus (talk) 22:04, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

✅

Fables of Æsop
For the next PotM I'd like to suggest Fables of Æsop and Other Eminent Mythologists. We have some individual fables from this already, but they're incomplete and mixed with different translations (compare Fables of Æsop and Other Eminent Mythologists/Fables II and III with The Cat and the Cock and The Wolf and the Lamb). --虍 (talk) 21:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed with pleasure. ---Zyephyrus (talk) 22:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree; a good cleanup is needed here, and a proofreading project is a good method of doing it. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:46, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

A Brief History of Modern Philosophy
Our current text is a mish-mash of an a terrible OCR and some lightly cleaned up text. User:Billinghurst has, on my request, converted the original PDF format into a DJVU (File:A Brief History of Modern Philosophy.djvu). I'm not sure what our policy is for replacing bad works with proofread in-progress works, but I'd like to suggest this as either this month's or next month's POTM. I'm not sure if we've already picked this month's or not. Jude (talk) 04:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * April 2009: Fables of Æsop and Other Eminent Mythologists, and May 2009: A Brief History of Modern Philosophy, is this OK? ---Zyephyrus (talk) 19:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds fine. Jude (talk) 05:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

✅

Request for Proofreed - Euclid (Todhunter)
Formally requesting that the Todhunter Euclid that was located be the POTM for January:

Index:The Elements of Euclid for the Use of Schools and Colleges - 1872.djvu

I've been working on this myself, but would appreciated someone to assist in diagram creation, typsetting and validation..

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * My only concern with choosing this text is that many of the pages require the additon of images. This is a relatively complex task which may be too much to expect for proofreaders. What do others think? Would it be possible to put a step by step guide for adding images on the Index talk page (ie. get image from page, crop, name blah blah blah, load to this category in commons, etc.) Suicidalhamster (talk) 18:03, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * How many images are there? I will be happy to help a little but I can't do much.---Zyephyrus (talk) 18:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well it probably averages over one per page. The book proper starts on page 25 and page 26 needs 4 images and the pages following need: 2, 8, 2, 0, 1, 1, 2, 1. Hopefully that gives you some idea. Suicidalhamster (talk) 20:22, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it does, thank you, Suicidalhamster. I don't think I can help much for the how-to, but I think I can try and do some images, if not alone to do it. ---Zyephyrus (talk) 20:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

PotM June 2009?
Any ideas? --Zyephyrus (talk) 12:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have found two tools with which editing has been far easier than it was before. --Zyephyrus (talk) 09:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think just pick something? I've no personal preference... Jude (talk) 12:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

While I have some of my favourites, one of these four volumes may be of interest ... Found it and uploaded on a whim. There is no base page for them yet. :-/ billinghurst (talk) 14:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Index:A Dictionary of Music and Musicians vol 1.djvu
 * Index:A Dictionary of Music and Musicians vol 2.djvu
 * Index:A Dictionary of Music and Musicians vol 3.djvu
 * Index:A Dictionary of Music and Musicians vol 4.djvu
 * Yes, interesting :) --Zyephyrus (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

or this is a quirky book ... -- billinghurst (talk) 14:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Index:Omnibuses and Cabs.djvu
 * I think that the Dictionary of Music and Musicians is a useful book and it would be a useful work to do; Omnibuses and cabs on the other hand are pleasant and easier to work on so I'd like to chose it too... so, both choices are good for me. Which one do you prefer? --Zyephyrus (talk) 20:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I love quirky and would like to see how we go with Index:Omnibuses and Cabs.djvu. Interesting to watch what happens with the response to the quirky. Music and Musicians can be in the mix for a later period, and I think would better be served by having some information and support behind it. -- billinghurst (talk) 21:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I second the vote for Omnibuses and Cabs. Sounds awesome! Jude (talk) 04:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)✅

PotM July 2009?
Do we want to do Index:A Dictionary of Music and Musicians vol 1.djvu for July? It has a level of complexity, and may be one of those works that sits around, though it may be good for drumming up some interest.

Otherwise, I have a whole backlog selected for eventual contribution at archive.org bookmarks. I have also recently uploaded File:The Life of Thomas Linacre.djvu though haven't done an index page yet. -- billinghurst (talk) 13:48, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * There are lots of possible choices in your list. For instance I'd like this one but there are lots of possibilities as well. --Zyephyrus (talk) 01:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * or more detailed and with nice images this one . --Zyephyrus (talk) 01:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I personally like Index:A Dictionary of Music and Musicians vol 1.djvu for July. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 05:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Index:A Dictionary of Music and Musicians vol 1.djvu is ok for me. --Zyephyrus (talk) 00:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions for August 2009
Thought that it would be nice to compile a list of potentials early in the month. So please add below those that you would like considered.
 * Index:Notes on the churches in the counties of Kent, Sussex, and Surrey.djvu -- billinghurst (talk)
 * One Hundred English Folksongs (1916) -- billinghurst (talk)
 * One or the other, as you wish: I like both! --Zyephyrus (talk) 19:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * NOT FAIR! I think that the latter is sexier, and achievable for the month, and the former is of personal benefit. Someone else can have an opinion too -- billinghurst (talk) 22:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Index:The English Constitution (1894).djvu is somewhat topical, I believe, in that Bagehot suggested that the legal apparatus should be wheeled out of the House of Lords; and they are just about to do this at long last. Anyway Bagehot is good value, and should have an author page at least ... Charles Matthews (talk) 13:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Author page started ✅-- billinghurst (talk) 12:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Does a book exist about singing a Constitution in a church? ;-) If there is no such book we will have to choose. Which one is the most different from the previous ones?


 * Omnibuses and Cabs by Henry Charles Moore -  A Brief History of Modern Philosophy by Harald Høffding  -  Fables of Aesop and other eminent mythologists by Roger L'Estrange  -  Popular Science Monthly #86 (1915) by Various Authors  -  Lays of Marie de France by Marie de France.  -  Our American Holidays - Christmas (1907) by Robert Haven Schauffler.  -  Poems (1890) by Emily Dickinson.  -  On the Vital Principle (1855) by Aristotle.  -  The Pilgrim Cookbook (1921) by Pilgrim Ladies' Aid Society  -    -  Equitation by Henry L. de Bussigny  -  The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame


 * The Constitution one seems more different, don't you think so? I would suggest this one first, and keep the other two for next months. What do you think of this idea? --Zyephyrus (talk) 21:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Always nice to have historical documents. -- billinghurst (talk) 23:42, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I think my preference would be for the constitution book too, seems an attainable length too. Jarry1250 (talk) 11:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

September 2009
What do we want to do for September, it is almost here?--Birgitte SB  02:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There were a couple of nominations left over from August. Either suits me, though my juvenile vote is for One Hundred English Folksongs (1916)' (as above) - cute and manageable, broader appeal. Happy to go and grab it billinghurst (talk) 04:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I would enjoy working on One Hundred English Folksongs. For all of the songs only about a few minutes is required for each one to proofread it, so it's definitely doable for the month of September.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 13:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Extra thought. The work does have a whole lot of the bars and notes, so we can only do the words unless we have a better means of reproducing the musical notation. That may put some off.  Anyway, I have uploaded it to Commons, and created the Index page at Index:One Hundred English Folksongs (1916).djvu.-- billinghurst (talk) 06:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That should teach me to not peruse the actual file. That seems extremely tricky to do, especially since nothing like Lilypond is actually enabled here on WS.  I personally think we'd have a more successful PotM if we got a work that didn't require typesetting features we currently aren't equipped to handle.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 23:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Suggestion. That we work on the text, get it to proofed stage, and we can come back and worry about the music at a later time.  The only issue comes down to how well we can OCR (probably badly) and whether a TYPING PotM is acceptable. -- billinghurst (talk) 03:28, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * River Tarnell (IRC nick flyingparchment) suggested that if we were to consider sheet music that the extensions mw:Extension:ABC may be more to our cup of tea. Also made the following quote billinghurst (talk) 03:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)btw, Cecil Sharp censored most of his work for publication - if you add that, you might want to look for his private works where he wrote down the real words for the songs.
 * Hm, that's one suggestion. And not a bad one.  I could go for proofing text now and then adding music later.  Would the ABC extension be able to typeset all the music on the sheet or does it have limitations that would prevent it?  (I just don't know how fully featured ABC is compared to other typesetting software.)—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 12:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ABC's been available for months though. If they haven't enabled it by now, who knows if they ever will.  I tend to think that is dev was willing make it live; we would have already.  I think this work is not desirable to do without music notation available.--<font color="#9966FF">Birgitte <font color="#CC99CC" size="2">SB  00:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * How about we bump Songs until we can approach it with fuller information. Correspondingly, I believe that the only existing other nomination for September is Index:Notes on the churches in the counties of Kent, Sussex, and Surrey.djvu -- billinghurst (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, this seems to be the best solution for me too. We'll take the songs later when we have further information about the music transcription; for now, welcome to Kent, Surrey and Sussex churches! --Zyephyrus (talk) 07:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

October 2009
For the next PotM (October 2009), I would like to propose we do the text Old-Time Recipes for Home Made Wines Cordials and Liqueurs. It is a short text and appears pretty easy to do, so hopefully we could complete it in a month. It also has a great root beer recipe in it. What do you guys think? Anyways, that is my 2 cents. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 06:38, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Birgitte and Matt have been bold and imposed their choice upon us. -- billinghurst (talk) 10:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, a pleasant choice :) --Zyephyrus (talk) 22:22, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Formatting question
In general, for this text, is it preferable to use for the last names, as done in this validated page, or regular MAJUSCULE, as done here? Thanks, Wrelwser43 (talk) 06:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * As per the look of the page. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, I have run a script through the page and corrected it.  Shhhh! We want say how many iterations I had to go through to get it right. billinghurst (talk) 07:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

For any subsequent readers, the answer for this project is:. (Thanks, Billinghurst for the fixup!)

For Dec PotM
I picked an existing work about Handel by Romain Rolland, as it has a fair bit about Messiah which is a Xmas-type work. billinghurst (talk) 10:37, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Perfect for me. --Zyephyrus (talk) 21:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... sounds like a musical-christmas work. Great choice, that's perfect! I love those kind of works.Angelprincess72 (talk) 13:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Three pages to go and some Greek characters
I am pulling Index:Plato or Protagoras.djvu from the rotation as there are only three pages to go, and two of them have Greek characters and someone with some nous can have a go. billinghurst (talk) 10:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Principia proofreading versus the bots?
A note to say that I just did a part-proof-read and correct of Principia section 1.12. The comparison text is the printed version of 1729. There are some non-modern things (spelling, punctuation, use of apostrophes) in the original, and I've kept to the original forms in the proofreading corrections. Is there any risk that a bot will revert them to modernized form? How to protect against that? With good wishes, Terry0051 (talk) 15:27, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * We don't run bots for spelling errors, so it should be okay. We occasionally run bots under controlled conditions for OCR errors, however, they are things like tiie for the. Thanks for your efforts and your interest. Welcome. billinghurst (talk) 21:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

PotM Adding Text To Be Validated Proposal
How do you guys feel about replacing the spot where we currently have last month's text shown with a text to be validated? Since the validated text idea has been such a success we were thinking about continuing that. How does everyone feel about this? This would show up with the PotM template and the Collaboration template. This would really help to get are validated text count up. Please share your views on this. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 08:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

PotM January 2010
More quirky selections
 * Index:The Passenger Pigeon - Mershon.djvu (1907) ~250pp, about pigeons, and it seems to be a compilation of authors writing about pigeons from various 'authoritative' perspectives. Has some nice colour plates that would make some good illustrations. Text looks in good condition, and been botted into place. billinghurst (talk) 11:21, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good and unique. I think it would be great to have a text based around the subject of pigeons.Angelprincess72 (talk)

I've just noticed that the text is still copyright in my country, I think. The author died 66 years ago and the copyright term in the U.K. is 70 years after the author's death. Is it still copyright for me? Can I still contribute with that text? Angelprincess72 (talk) 20:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


 * You can work on it. You would be unable to print it out and sell it in the UK without permission until it goes out of copyright. billinghurst (talk) 02:24, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Billinghurst Angelprincess72 (talk) 13:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Possibles for February 2010
Starting compilation. From something above ^^^ or
 * Index:Frederic Shoberl - Persia.djvu
 * Index:Documents from the Den of Espionage.djvu

February 2010
Some suggestions for February
 * Index:Florian - The Fables, 1888.djvu
 * Index:The Craftsmanship of Writing.djvu ← chosen

We have newer people here too, so please don't be afraid to add some selections.

Guidance on selections is billinghurst  sDrewth  10:54, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Of general interest to people already here and those just passing
 * Not too tricky to format
 * Not hideously long
 * The higher the complexity, the shorter should be the work
 * Both suggestions are good for me. --Zyephyrus (talk) 01:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Either work for me, although I am partial to The Craftsmanship of Writing.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 18:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I am leaning with you Zhaladshar, though that is because we threw in the second text for January, so it is nice to be having something different. billinghurst  sDrewth  22:25, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Slightly roguish suggestion for November
Looking at the number of pages that we have proofread, and not validated, I would like for us to consider picking ten works that we would like to have further completed to get from Category:Proofread to Category:Validated Call it a catch up month.-- billinghurst (talk) 10:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I absolutely agree Billinghurst. There are lots of works out there that are Proofread but need to be Validated. I think your idea of a 'catch up month' sounds like a good idea. Angelprincess72 (talk) 14:44, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Alternatively, things that look quirky that we have already are -- billinghurst (talk) 11:19, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Index:A Compendium of Irish Biography.djvu
 * Index:A Danish and Dano-Norwegian grammar.djvu
 * Index:Footsteps of Dr. Johnson.djvu
 * Index:Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857.djvu
 * Index:Guide to health.djvu by Gandhi
 * Index:Historical Works of Venerable Bede vol. 2.djvu though has a level of complexity
 * Index:Jane Eyre.djvu
 * Index:Journal of a Voyage to Greenland, in the Year 1821.djvu
 * Index:Journal of the Royal Geographical Society of London, Volume 1 (2nd edition).djvu
 * Index:Mandragora.djvu
 * Index:Men of the Time, eleventh edition.djvu
 * Index:Oxford Book of English Verse 1250-1900.djvu
 * Index:Robert the Bruce and the struggle for Scottish independence - 1909.djvu
 * Index:True stories of girl heroines.djvu
 * Index:Twilight.djvu
 * Index:What will he do with it.djvu


 * Then again there is this one that Zhal may like A book of nursery rhymes : being Mother Goose's melodies arranged in the order of attractiveness and interest (1901) billinghurst (talk)
 * I love that little nursery rhymes book, but I think the number of pictures will make that book a pain to do. I actually think it might be a good idea to do a clean up month and get some indices validated.  Since we've had some trouble finishing a larger works, I've picked some short works that I think we could do:
 * Index:The Martyrdom of Ferrer.djvu
 * Index:The Marriage of Heaven and Hell - copy D.djvu
 * Index:The Idea of Progress.djvu
 * Index:The Origins of Totalitarianism.djvu
 * Index:Plato or Protagoras.djvu
 * Index:A study in scarlet.djvu
 * —<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 14:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I have selected eight titles and they are on a three hourly rotation. As we start to put them away, we can put in other options from Special:IndexPages

I have prepared the files, we just need to reinstate when we are agreed and ready to go. billinghurst (talk) 15:45, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Template:PotM → http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Template:PotM&oldid=1477451 ; and
 * Template:Collaboration → http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Collaboration&oldid=1473559
 * Agreed, with pleasure --Zyephyrus (talk) 16:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds great.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 16:18, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * As a note in response, we have already completed at least one work and by 2 Nov., and I have had the pleasure of modifying the rotation already ... +1 / -1. billinghurst (talk) 15:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * and another completed, rotation modified billinghurst (talk) 02:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * and another (see below) billinghurst (talk) 10:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * This work Documents from the Den of Espionage was added to the rotation. I have removed it as the general proosal was to work upon fully proofread works, and not to work upon not proofread.  I would suggest that we could probably add this work as something for a future PotM. billinghurst (talk) 07:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Mea culpa, I misunderstood validation/proofread - we can do it for December or something instead, my mistake. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din. 17:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Additional
Smaller works worth of adding
 * An Act for the Amendment of the Laws with respect to Wills (short)
 * I Want to Go Back to Michigan (short) TOO HARD, sheet music
 * The Perth gazette and Western Australian journal, Volume 1, Number 2 (short)
 * Seven Poems (short) (merged into Index:The Dial (Volume 68).djvu
 * The War and the Churches (longer, ~100pp)
 * Index:A Concise History of the U.S. Air Force.djvu 84pp
 * Index:Frontiers.djvu 64pp
 * Index:The Relations of the Advanced and the Backward Races of Mankind.djvu 60pp
 * Index:Law and Authority (1886).djvu 25pp
 * Index:The Visit of Charles Fraser to the Swan River in 1827.djvu 40pp
 * Index:The Obligations of the Universities Towards Art.djvu 60pp
 * Index:The History of the Church & Manor of Wigan part 1.djvu 186pp
 * Index:A Kentucky Cardinal.djvu 152pp
 * Index:The music of Bohemia.djvu 50pp
 * Index:On the Relative Motion of the Earth and the Luminiferous Ether.djvu 13pp
 * Index:The Western Mail/24 December 1897/The Abrolhos tragedy 8pp
 * Index:Warner Bros. Coraline Corsets 16pp
 * Index:Suspension of Habeas Corpus during the War of the Rebellion.djvu 35pp
 * Index:Contemporary Opinion of the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions, p1.djvu 19pp
 * Index:Fair Circumvention.djvu 50pp
 * Index:Lundy's Lane Battle.djvu 4pp
 * Index:Daniel Schrock v. Learning Curve International, Inc. 7th Cir. 08-1296.djvu 26pp.
 * Index:Economic Development in Denmark Before and During the World War.djvu 120pp (partially validated)
 * Index:Live and Let Live.djvu 220 pp., partially validated
 * Index:Highlights of Copyright Amendments Contained in the URAA Circular 38B Rev07-2006.djvu 8pp
 * Index:Review of Franz Brentano's The Origin of the Knowledge of Right and Wrong.djvu 9pp
 * Index:Littell's Living Age 8pp
 * Index:Emancipation Proclamation (1863) 6 pp
 * Index:Copyright Amendment Act 1984 from Government Gazette.djvu 6pp
 * Index:Notice 1998 of 2005.djvu 5pp
 * Index:Citation of Constitutional Laws Act 2005 from Government Gazette.djvu 6pp
 * Index:Copyright Amendment Act 2002 from Government Gazette.djvu 3pp ( 1 to do)
 * Index:Fremantle journal and general advertiser/27 February 1830 4pp
 * Index:Publick Occurrences 3pp
 * Index:Posture & Foundation Garments 16pp
 * Index:124-2009 Brunetti Obit.djvu 2pp

One page remaining at Index:The Myth of Occams Razor.djvu ✅


 * I will look at a better means to continue this, though at a lower level. billinghurst (talk) 20:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

A nominee to be added to the mix?
May I request that Index:Fair Circumvention.djvu (50pp) be added to the rotation at some point? It does not have to be this month, but I am giving a talk at a legal education conference in January that will refer to it and direct readers to this source, so having at least a few pages reach Validated status by that point would be very useful. Tarmstro99 (talk) 15:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC) ✅

List of little works that need validation
Would editors please add works below that are 10 pages or less, and are at listed at Category:Index Proofread.


 * Index:Slavery in Europe.djvu, 4pp added
 * Index:Training for Citizenship.djvu, 5pp added
 * Index:Littell's Living Age 8pp (problematic - gif file construction)
 * Index:Some Remarks on Corset 4pp

My plan is to construct a list, and to use it when we have completed the PotM, and still wish for users to be encouraged to assist to validate. billinghurst  sDrewth  15:17, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Listing place is Proofread of the Month/notice
 * Here are a couple others:
 * Index:Notice 1490 of 2008.djvu
 * Index:Ann Agnes Bernatitus FOIA documents.djvu
 * Index:The Perth Gazette and Western Australian Journal 1(9).djvu
 * Index:The Perth Gazette and Western Australian Journal 1(11).djvu
 * Index:US Patent 5830035.djvu
 * There are plenty of others (Canadian patents, more Perth Gazettes) that aren't listed here, either.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 16:53, 21 January 2010 (UTC)$


 * A few fables of La Fontaine, for instance these ones: they are separate texts rather than a book.
 * The Gardener and His Landlord
 * The Rat Retired From the World
 * The Dairy-Woman and the Pail of Milk
 * The Man Who Ran After Fortune and the Man Who Waited for Her in His Bed
 * The Cobbler and the Financier
 * The Schoolboy, the Pedant, and the Owner of a Garden
 * Would they do? Zyephyrus (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Another suggestion: Index:The moods of Ginger Mick.djvu. Moondyne (talk) 00:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually I was looking for Proofread works, that needed to be validated (the last step). I was also wanting them to be small so I could get a number completed. It is otherwise difficult to get small works some attention. So neither quite fall where I was looking. Both works could fill gaps at the end of a month when we finish early. Moondyne, that is just plain nasty putting that level of Strine onto our proofreaders! <g> billinghurst  sDrewth  15:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Think of it as edjication! Moondyne (talk) 03:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


 * A couple of short works waiting for validation are:
 * Index:Memorandum in regard to the Liancourt Rocks (Takeshima Island) controversy - 2 pages
 * Index:March 1916 QST.djvu - 25 pages
 * Index:Poems of the Great War - National Relief Fund.djvu - although 43 pages these are poems with only a few stanzas on each page
 * Index:Letter from Frank Wilson updating the Capone investigation, April 8, 1931.djvu - 1 page
 * Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc
I would like to suggest Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc, A large classical work of over 500 pages. Jeepday (talk) 11:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I support this nomination and will work on it. I suggest using hair spaces around the em dashes (using template:—) and using typographical quotation marks/apostrophes (“ ” ‘ ’). See this page for an example. <font face="Verdana"><font color="ForestGreen">Psych <font color="DarkGreen">less   00:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I also support it. This work is ranked 16th on %22Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc%22.  Perhaps with a bit of work we can increase that ;-) John Vandenberg (chat) 06:58, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Since there is already a human proofread version of it, I support On the Vital Principle for October. <font face="Verdana"><font color="ForestGreen">Psych <font color="DarkGreen">less  19:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ April 2010 — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Made edit to Template:PotM
I have made an edit to Template:PotM to allow us to easily roll between the PotM and the mini-list of works. In the template, there is a #lst transclusion that grabs text with this #lst being commented out. To swap from one to the other, we just need to remove one set of comments &lt;!-- --> and comment out the existing PotM text. I haven't yet amended the same text in Template:Collaboration, however, it is on the TO DO list. billinghurst  sDrewth  17:11, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

A good text for a PotM
Hi guys, I would like to suggest doing Index:The Time Machine.djvu because it is a featured but we don't have a proofread djvu file for this text. It is a classic text and one of the best H. G. Wells' works. What do you guys think? This might not work for December because of Christmas but what do you guys think of this for January? --Mattwj2002 (talk) 04:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * For Steamy goodness I'll always prefer 20,000 Leagues to Journey/Machine, but I'm sure I'm game for 5-10 pages anyways. And frankly, I'd consider the idea of getting rid of "Featured" texts in the traditional sense and using "Validated Texts" instead; so it's one category, not two. To be "featured" you have to be validated. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din. 23:11, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The version of TM that Matt brought in does not align with our version. :-( So I am not in favour of this proposal until we have sorted the nitty-gritty.  I am also not in favour of making a second version of an existing text as PotM. Also, with TV's new match and split technology, I think that we have a better means for handling works that exist on WS without scans. billinghurst (talk) 23:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * listed as suggested

Works: Short and Interesting

 * Cocaine: A play (21 pages)
 * The Play Function of Sex (20 pages)
 * Children of Peace (15 pages)
 * The Urine Dance (16 pages)

(Not so short)
 * The Defence of Terrorism (1921)
 * The Availability of Bomb-Making Instructions on the Internet (1997, Congress)
 * Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Thomas Carlyle. 04:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * About The Story of Alexander's Empire, the address above links to an incomplete book, only a Preface, doesn't it? The whole book is here:, 378 pages. --Zyephyrus (talk) 10:32, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Damn, you're right - nixed it from the list. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Thomas Carlyle. 17:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Index:Canadian Appeal for the Widows and Orphans of the South African War.djvu - 4 pages Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Thomas Carlyle. 01:56, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


 * not actioned — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

March Proposals
I was wondering if we could do a novel for a change. So, what about Index:Wood Beyond the World.djvu? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Literature? What is the world coming too? Is it sci-fi? billinghurst  sDrewth  23:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This is at the TO BE VALIDATED stage, which generally we don't look to use as primary POTM material. For a prime POTM is there something new (at archive.org?) or early in its creation that we can use? [Did you hear the mutter that even if it is literature ;-) ] For this work, I would feel that we would be adding it to another Validation month project (presuming we have one), or I sneak it in at month's end like I just swapped in Mars as Mike Peel asked so very nicely, and as a reward for his UK project. <g> billinghurst  sDrewth  01:47, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah. I was in the wrong index category. I thought I was in the one for Waiting for Proofreading rather than that for Waiting for Validation. Let me try again with either Index:BulldogDrummondSapper.djvu or Index:The Moonstone.djvu.Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:00, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The latter is already on the side, and more looks to be a Match and Split job. That aside I am comfortable with the former suggestion. — billinghurst  sDrewth  09:28, 13 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Index:Documents from the Den of Espionage.djvu has been waiting since November/December... Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Thomas Carlyle. 03:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Not being the easiest work for PotM may be the reason that others haven't supported it. — billinghurst  sDrewth  09:28, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * With the number of problematic pages, I'd rather not have to put up with that for a PotM. BulldogDrummond seems like the best choice so far.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 14:47, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * A tad disappointing since we've been told since November "Oh, just convert it to X", "Just bring it up to basic standards", etc - to now be told it won't get the indicated help at all. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Thomas Carlyle. 18:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm only expressing my own desire. I'm not going to throw a fit if you (or others) really want it to be done.  While it's not my first pick, I do see the value in such a work, and we haven't yet done a work quite like that.  At the least it will break up the monotony.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 02:25, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sherurcij, that is a different interpretation than I see. You added it to the rotation of items requiring validation in November, of which is was not of the set. There was no promise after that it was going to be selected, and sticking a work as PotM that is laden with problematic is not one that I feel favourable to recommend. To me it also holds little interest, so I am hardly going to jump at it. It is still not my preference. — billinghurst  sDrewth  00:00, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * They are not "problematic", they are marked that way to indicate which images would be near impossible to OCR - that is all. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Thomas Carlyle. 06:15, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Selected work Index:BulldogDrummondSapper.djvu, coded to template, will require template uncomments

April 2010
— billinghurst  sDrewth  10:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Pick a work from above; or
 * It was suggested to me that we could look to have something akin to journal papers month where we could collate a list of papers from journals that we would like to have transcribed and made available to the main namespace. Examples of the sorts of articles could be Philosophical Transactions, PSM, and may align well with Academic papers project. I know from a recent tussle with a work on Matthew Flinders, that there were quite a few referred papers that I set as links that would be nice features.

Some random ones with interesting titles from some of the early volumes of Popular Science Monthly: ... there's lots of others too; I recommend browsing through the volume indexes. Mike Peel (talk) 19:59, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Do Birds Improve in Nest-Building?
 * The Troglodytes, or Cave-Dwellers of France
 * The Hippopotamus and her Baby
 * Natural Selection in Politics
 * The Morbid Effects of Heat
 * News from Jupiter
 * In this category I'd also add The Status of Woman in Chaldea, Egypt, Judea and Greece to the Time of Christ (from War and Other Essays), and there are many more short works by Sumner. —Spangineerwp (háblame)  13:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Reorg of the PotM pages
In order to manage the ideas, and the plethora of proofread works that we wish to turn into validated works, I have done the following: All for easier addition of works. Additions can be made to relevant pages, though the latter is the page with the greater turnover). You can ready access to see which parts are active from Proofread of the Month/notice which is effectively a control panel. Each has light protection as they are not pages where we would be encouraging the uninitiated to play.— billinghurst  sDrewth  10:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Created a page of suggested works compiled for works proposed on this page, transcluded above
 * Created a page of select works for validation again from works proposed (b/w 20-200 pp), partially transcluded on WS:POTM
 * Created a page of little works for completion (up to ~20pp) partially transcluded on Template:PotM

Works that have been in Category:Proofread longest
The pages that have been awaiting validation in Category:Proofread for the longest time (since January 2008) belong to Index:How and Why Library and Index:Crainquebille, Putois, Riquet and other profitable tales, 1915.djvu. Hesperian 01:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Any of these two will do for me, or both. --Zyephyrus (talk) 14:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Neither particularly cracks my whip, however, if we came down to the choice of the two, I would prefer Crainquebille, Putois, Riquet and other profitable tales so I am saying it will be May, and from the list at the top, I have picked a non-fiction for June.
 * Parking image for May File:Anatole France par Leroux.jpg


 * Looks like May is going to be finished mid month.  Does anyone have a suggestion for the remainder of the month. If I hear nothing over the next couple of days, I will do a lucky dip on something that it semi-advanced. — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * From a quick glance, maybe this Index:Poems for the Sea.djvu — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:34, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions for July and August 2010
If you have suggestions for these months, please contribute. Even if you have a topic area of interest and we will see what we can find. — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

From poking around
 * Index:Picturesque New Zealand, 1913.djvu (1913) quite a few pages, though has lots of images, topic matter for which we don't have a lot.

Index:Federalist, Dawson edition, 1863.djvu - matched & split in February, not yet verified against the scans. An important legal resource for interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. --Eliyak T · C 15:55, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the idea for July as we can align it with Independence Day, and give it a level of play. Though I doubt that we will get it complete in the time, though it would give it a good hit. — billinghurst  sDrewth  16:35, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds great to me. The thought of me doing it as a solo effort was enough to keep it untouched on my to-do list, but I'd really like to see this validated. —Spangineerwp  (háblame)  17:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * For next few months, or later: Index:Elizabethan People.djvu, which I'll be adding to the proposed works above. A requested text for some time, and looks quite interesting. —innotata 21:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * (Bit of a no-brainer) I like the idea that we grab works from Requested texts and think that we should be ensuring that we do that at least twice a year. The work itself has some length, and quite a few illustrations, has good OCR, so sounds like a work we can progress. Note that we need to move it from Commons as it is still copyright in the UK. Note on the Index talk page. — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:42, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

The Harvard Classics
We could do Index:The Harvard Classics Vol. 51; Lectures.djvu. It contains a little something for everyone. Relatively short lectures/text on History, Natural Science, Poetry, Philosophy, Political Science, Literature and Religion. P. S. Burton (talk) 18:29, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

October 2010
We are probably back to a fiction work again, and something to give us a break from extracting images. So looking around for something that might provoke some interest or something that is different, and I was going to suggest some works by Author:Henry Lawson though I see that PG has done quite a few, though not or something like — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:21, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Triangles of life, and other stories
 * Author:Rolf Boldrewood In Bad Company: And Other Stories
 * Author:Edward George Earle Lytton Bulwer Index:What will he do with it.djvu also possible

I like the idea of doing one work from Lawson which PG doesn't have; if we finish early, we can do a copy&paste job on some his works which are on PG. -- John Vandenberg (chat) 01:23, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I like that idea, and we probably should mark it as a CotW task for some time. Even if we can look to do some research to match PG versions with archive.org/Google versions. — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Whether it is chosen or not, it is at Index:Triangles of life, and other stories.djvu — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No alternatives suggested, chosen for October. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposal for Dec 2009 POTM
Documents seized from the U.S. Embassy in Tehran - they're all PD-USGovt, and it'd be great to put these together. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din. 22:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Before we did anything, would it be possible to get it as a DjVu, and OCR'd? -- billinghurst (talk) 22:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Both done, some pages even proofed, though it still needs a lot of work. We good for this for December? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din. 00:29, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Where is the DJVU file? I think this would be a good serious project for POTM.  I'd prefer a more jovial theme for December ;-) John Vandenberg (chat) 09:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I still would like to go with A Christmas Faggot and this one was signed for Oscar Wilde. billinghurst (talk) 10:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Alternatively John suggested to finish Index:Our American Holidays - Christmas.djvu billinghurst (talk) 10:22, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point, definitely a Christmas theme is a good idea for December. Index:Documents from the Den of Espionage.djvu for January, perhaps. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din. 20:01, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Calendar 2010
Suggested means for remainder of the year

December
Can we finish Index:Our American Holidays - Christmas.djvu in December (it has already been a POTM)? Index:The Army and Navy Hymnal.djvu has a few Christmas songs. Index:Fables of Aesop and other eminent mythologists.djvu is another work which listed as a POTM project, and it is far from completed; they are small. Index:Florian - The Fables, 1888.djvu has been proposed once before. John Vandenberg (chat) 18:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * There is also some suggestions at . Some of the music stuff I see as problematic due to us not being able to reproduce the notations so then are they proofread/validated or not, so until we get better tools (as per discussions at WS:S) I would prefer something non-musical. — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:29, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Think that December calls for a shorter work, everyone is busy! so I have selected Index:Florian - The Fables, 1888.djvu in lieu of other noms. We can throw in some works for completion if we complete early. This one will need a bit of transclusion. — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010 is Validation month
A quick note about Validation month, the files in play and how to change them.

The files in play are listed in Proofread of the Month/Coding and there are eight that are active on a rotating basis (3 hourly). The file has a light protection. All that needs to be added is the central component of the file, so NO Index: nor .djvu is necessary. No need to change the overarching template. — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

To monitor the progress of the works in play To add works to this list, to the index page add to the Table of Contents section &lt;font color="white">NovemberPOTM&lt;/font>. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:IndexPages?key=NovemberPOTM

February
How about Audubon's Birds of America? This classic has lots of nice illustrations, and recently became the most expensive printed book ever sold at auction. Google scan: --Eliyak T · C 03:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent suggestion; I'd be sure to help out. —Spangineer (háblame)  20:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I had already allocated a January text ^^^ though we can reopen that discussion, or consider it for February. I have no issues with it as a work though some questions that I have
 * can we get it converted to a djvu file and see how big it will be? I would like to see how well it converted to other formats to see if we get good quality images, as this work relies on quality images.
 * were some of the diagrams black and white as shown?
 * If someone is going to cycle it through the processes at archive.org, that would be great. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:04, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to throw it out there, I am concerned with this picture. The dithering makes it appear awful, and it was likely a color scan as well.  Do we know of alternate versions of this work (that weren't derived from this PDF scan)?—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 23:35, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I have found several possible sources for the images online. These are all for the Octavo edition, as is the Google scan. (unfortunately, none of these seem to have all the images in one place):


 * (Blue-Grey Flycatcher)
 * (Blue-Grey Flycatcher)
 * (Blue-Grey Flycatcher)


 * I have noticed that this book is Volume 1 of 7, though I don't think that should stop us from at least starting in with volume 1. --Eliyak T · C 05:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If you tell me which pdf book is the chosen one, I can proceed to the conversion from a pdf into a djvu (it takes about one hour or two). --Zyephyrus (talk) 07:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

It turns out the Commons have the original Havell edition images, in very high resolution (so high that in full res necessitated killing my browser). According to Wikipedia, these images were originally published separately from the text, which was titled Ornithological Biography, and published in five volumes. The full text of this original edition is available at the Internet Archive:. I think we should go with this version, since we have a complete set of text and images. We can insert the images into the text on the finished main-space pages, such as at User:Eliyak/Birds of America. --Eliyak T · C 15:15, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * @Eliyak. Do you have a preferred volume or a specified version that you would like to propose?  Were you also going to organise for it to be uploaded to Commons? — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The images at commons, in commons:Category:The Birds of America, are the original ("Havell") edition images (they are numbered by plate). The original accompanying text of "Ornithological Biography" is at the 5 Internet Archive sites I mentioned. I think we would want to use these original images and text. On looking at the images at commons, I see that most of them need to be cropped (some of them already have been). The text is also much longer than I originally thought, so we would probably want to limit a project to the first volume (564 pages). --Eliyak T · C 14:54, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

March

 * The Art of Bookbinding, a practical treatise (1890) as per its description. Good length (280pp), simple images, good reference, chose second edition due to its commentary on improvements, discusses page sizes, printer signatures, ... Very quaint conversational read, a worthy addition to our diverse library. — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * This one looks nice, and I like books like this that present snapshots of technology in the past, and I like learning about old printing techniques. Inductiveload— talk/contribs  11:40, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I am crazy enough, unless we want a fiction book — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * We are going to finish the body of the work this weekend. We have a choice of putting in another book, or undertaking validation of proofread works.  Thoughts? Billinghurst (talk) 05:42, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * This page might be a bit tough, but we wouldn't necessarily have to complete it ... just work on it. Other than that I would think validating stuff would work. - Tannertsf (talk) 05:51, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

April
Probably a time for a work of fiction. Anything different or worthwhile for feeding the masses? Anything special that we can tie in for April 2011? Billinghurst (talk) 15:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

June
How about the Photography: Theory and Practice ? It's pretty large (590pp), scans are clean and just cleared copyright :) Atelierele Albe (talk) 22:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this might be a bit too large to complete in a month. I proffer Index:The Life of Michael Angelo.djvu as an alternative suggestion. From recollection, the last serious biography we did was Handel in December 2009. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I would agree with BWC that Photography is a little big for PotM, and though we haven't had a biographical work we have previously had Roland works as PotM. Looking at its size and knowledge of the works it will be finished early and then we can throw in Photography as the overflow item. — billinghurst  sDrewth  10:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Need to change to something else. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:37, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Mpaa found a good file, which has now replaced the bad one. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:45, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

July
* Index:Narrative of an Official Visit to Guatemala.djvu 1819 work Being worked on already


 * Picturesque Nepal
 * A couple of books covering areas of the world that we have very little on. The Guatemalan text, although 588 pages, looks reasonably straightforward and the pages are small text-wise. The Nepali text has some good illustrations and seems to be a kin to the Picturesque New Zealand we did in September 2010. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't looked at the offerings, however, the Nepali works sounds interesting, it is good to do a geographic work a year, and it addresses a gap, and Toronto texts are usually excellent. Are all pages present? — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:38, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's complete. There are at least two other scans of it on IA, but this one looked to have the cleanest scans. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:02, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * IA states that author died in 1955, so we are going to need to put the work locally (on enWS) rather than at Commons. For any images, one would presume that they were commissioned for the work, though as these seem to part of a series put together by a publisher rather than all by the same author, they are probably not of the same copyright term. Having said that, I doubt that it is one that we would want to push, so we should probably get those uploaded locally too. — billinghurst  sDrewth  05:21, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Selected for July 2011 — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:27, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


 * File:A corner of the Durbar Square, Patan (frontispiece).jpg from work that is able to be used in Collaboration — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:49, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


 * We're close to completing Picturesque Nepal. As this has gone so well, I propose we stay with the geographical theme and have a go at Index:Picturesque New Guinea.djvu. If there are no objections or alternate suggestions, I'll move it into the rotation once Nepal has finished. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:28, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Nearly finished? Have I missed something?  There's still a lot of incomplete pages in the index!  &mdash; Sam Wilson ( Talk &bull; Contribs ) &hellip; 13:31, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's all finished now and New Guinea is now in its place and ready to go. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:05, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I must've been looking at a cached copy of the index page! &mdash; Sam Wilson ( Talk &bull; Contribs ) &hellip; 08:29, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Fantastic effort. Congrats to all. Nice choice for a continuation. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

August
I would like to propose that for August, that we take a work from requested texts as we did last year. In fact it also seems like a smart idea to at least mark one off each year. Thoughts and suggestions? — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:18, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I do like this Index:The World's Famous Orations Volume 6.djvu, which is the Irish volume, and surprisingly not much in our corpus. Also gives scope to pick another volume if we excel like we did this month. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:20, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy with such a work for August.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 15:46, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * In place and running. If we zoomed through this volume, aka "did a July", then we could consider one of the other volumes of the work. — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:01, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

September
The top of the page asks for a list of works to do in future, and I've found a few I like: Index:A narrative of service with the Third Wisconsin Infantry.djvu Looks at least mildly interesting- I'm a fan of military history, and I suspect US Civil War might be of interest to people.

Index:Some soldier poets.djvu --Might be a good one for November (Remembrance Day).

Personally, I would like to see more fiction on the list- Things from pulp magazines, weird fiction and whatnot.--Canageek (talk) 15:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Valuable feedback. We do like to have a spread of themes to attract a wide range of works, and you will see our calendar above for 2011 has some of that information. We are indeed due for another work of fiction. — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:30, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Another option is we could look to replace an unfinished text like Vanity Fair (1847) by William Makepeace Thackeray, and to replace it with a transcribed version. Vanity Fair is around the place, so it depends on whether we want a new work, or feel that an incomplete text unbacked by scans is sufficient. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:51, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I just added Index:Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes 1894 Burt.djvu to the list: It isn't too long, is a nice, popular book, and would be a nice change from speeches and academia. Doesn't have to go this month, but I felt it should be on the list. --Canageek (talk) 15:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * We've already got an edition of Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes so I'd rather look at doing a work we don't have. What about something by Victor Hugo like History of a Crime or Ninety-three ? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

These works have been previously requested and I would much rather bring forward a work that is not available elsewhere. Add to the corpus, not offer an alternative. — billinghurst  sDrewth  10:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Index:Twilight.djvu
 * Index:What will he do with it.djvu
 * Index:The Garden of Romance - 1897.djvu
 * Index:The Time Machine.djvu
 * Index:The Moonstone.djvu


 * I like The Time Machine, and the History of a Crime or Ninety-three myself. --Canageek (talk) 14:21, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, Index:The Time Machine.djvu seems to be a reprint of Index:The Time Machine (1st edition).djvu. Possibly there are some typo fixes, but a new or scanless work would be a more valuable addition.

I recently (hopefully) sorted out a mess at The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. There, the original edition text was being partially sourced with a scan from a later edition (edited by Bury). Decline & Fall is a worthy work, although too large overall. One volume would be good, though. The 1897 Bury edition is (or at least was for many years) the most respected version, according to WP and elsewhere. So I suggest Index:Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire vol 1 (1897).djvu. Make sure to transclude it to The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Bury), not the other. Plus, the text of the original edition of volume 1 is about 1/2 done (not sourced though), and perhaps we could start by match & splitting it, though as I noticed, changes to wording were made at some point.
 * Obviously not fiction, but wanted to mention it. --Eliyak T · C 07:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I object the Decline and Fall - too much, too confusing, and it is a personal project of mine ... I just don't want to see it go to waste in PotM. Please pick something else. - Tannertsf (talk) 10:45, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Chose "Ninety-three" as the other Hugo book is definitely online at Gutenberg. Uploading it now— billinghurst  sDrewth  05:54, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me- You might want to fix the front page to show this, as right now it is not. --Canageek (talk) 14:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. &hellip; The current Proofread of the Month is Ninety-three (1900) by Victor Hugo. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:04, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

October
Index:Edgar Allan Poe - how to know him.djvu -A good one for October.

http://www.archive.org/details/greateventsbyfam01horn - would be a great option also. Looks easy, and we would just do vol. 1 for now. We also haven't done a history in a while.

Neither particularly appeals to me. I would like to do Index:English Caricaturists and Graphic Humourists of the nineteenth century.djvu — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:25, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Is there a text layer for this? When I go into random pages I can't see any. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, though I just had to go and kick it loose at Commons, which is a little weird as it shouldn't have been necessary, though it was easily achieved. — billinghurst  sDrewth 
 * The OCR doesn't look too bad, so OK with me for October. I see it has side-notes. I don't recall doing these in a POTM before. I suggest that a note on the Index page (maybe in the Volumes field) on how to do these would be a good idea. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:27, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I say pick one of the more 'complicated' pages w/ sidenotes, etc.,—proofread it & have someone else validate it, then link to it on the Index:page to serve as an example for proofreaders. The same can be done for any other of the more complicated pages...? Raising the bar, I think, tends to inspire ingenuity... No need to 'dumb down' here! Londonjackbooks (talk) 05:20, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There are some pages done. We may wish to further format the notes, however, that is probably easiest just to bot them.  Being able to set the header and footer was nice. — billinghurst  sDrewth  08:14, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * They add an element of complexity, so if you think that it raises the bar too high, then I am happy to cede. Or would you like to see and how it goes, and pull out if it isn't working? — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:13, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's try it. If it's not working then we could swap to Spangineer's suggestion of Index:How They Succeeded.djvu. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:09, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

November
For the past couple of years we have used November to complete texts that have already been proofread, and we are looking to move them to the validated state. Is this seen as valuable and should be continued?
 * Absolutely. As I write this only 9.3% of our Pagespace is validated with a further 28.3% in proofread status, just waiting to be looked at a second time. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:38, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

December
Festive season work again?
 * What about Longman's Christmas Annual for 1898? It's 11 short (adventure) stories and well-illustrated. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:06, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like a nice idea, various authors, non-especially renowned, so adding to the corpus, a range of images. It is long, which may mean incomplete as we have a busy December. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:48, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Alternate could be to grab a series of small works that were published in 1911, or had a 1911 feature. Examples could be Sad Shepherd (80pp), The feast of St. Friend : a Christmas book (140pp), The old, old wish (26pp.) Whichever, I would like someone else to choose for the month. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:56, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Parked but now done 2012

 * ✅ * Index:Female Prose Writers of America.djvu — billinghurst  sDrewth  April ^^^
 * ✅ The fairy tales of science: a book for youth, an eclectic book where trying to educate about science through allegory of fairy tales, has some cartoon style drawings of monsters. Author died 1872. Very quaint. 470pp though smaller, OCR is good. — billinghurst  sDrewth 
 * Propose we choose for May 2011
 * At Index:The fairy tales of science.djvu if we go with it Billinghurst (talk) 13:44, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support for May Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:20, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've had a look, and like you said, this is a charming mixture of children's fiction and science. I'd love to do this one come May.  MichelleG (talk) 00:09, 24 April 2011 (UTC). May^^^


 * ✅ English caricaturists and graphic humourists of the nineteenth century : how they illustrated and interpreted their times because I like caricuturists and their development of social commentary along side the corresponding emergence of a community moving from agricultural age to industrial age. Larger book, though has numerous sketches/caricutures. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * All of them would be all right for me, perhaps the fairy tales of science a bit more than the other ones :)  --Zyephyrus (talk) 16:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅ Burns's The merry muses of Caledonia : (original edition) a collection of favourite Scots songs ancient and modern : selected for use of the Crochallan Fencibles (1911)  We have some of the works, however they are often unsourced and not backed by images. — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:15, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Support It would be nice to get a scan backed and complete work in the Burns area. We have a big mishmash of individual unsourced works, a compilation of the big ones (and racy ones ;-), with a little commentary, would be great. Not too long, but plenty of content. Inductiveload— talk/contribs   18:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ Part of the picturesque series Picturesque Jamaica — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:09, 16 February 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ The oak: a popular introduction to forest-botany (1892) - WeeJeeVee (talk) 17:07, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Support (but not for a couple of months - biology was just done) Sounds like an interesting one for a biology theme: not too long, aimed at the layperson and in depth on a specific subject (as opposed to broad one like Molluscs), and in the plant kingdom. I would suggest a better (non-Google) scan such as, though. Inductiveload— talk/contribs  18:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * My support too, of course! Agree with Inductiveload that it would be a good one for a couple months to come. We're getting quite close to half a year now. - Dick Bos (talk) 12:42, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ Index:Paul Clifford Vol 1.djvu along with the other two volumes. First edition of the Edward Bulwer-Lytton novel that starts with the famous line "It was a dark and stormy night". Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I see that it is on the web though the 1830 edition we have is earlier than that version, is it still over interest?
 * I'll get to it later in the year if we don't do it as POTM. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:20, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

January 2012
I've found a couple of smaller works that could be interesting. A Desk-Book on the Etiquette of Social Stationery and Index:A Desk-Book of Errors in English.djvu. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The first is now loaded at Index:A Desk Book on the Etiquette of Social Stationary.djvu (yes, I know I spelt it wrong!) Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:23, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The double works sound good to me. Do you think sequentially or were you thinking simultaneously?  And I think that I resemble "social stationary".  — billinghurst  sDrewth  09:25, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking sequentially. It seems to me that choices in PotM create inertia. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 10:42, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

February 2012
I've noticed that we have no works on molluscs (or sea shells for that matter), so I've had a dig around on IA and have found Natural history, mollusca as a possible beginning. It's part of a series from SPCK on Natural history and seems to be written with the lay person in mind. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:03, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Uploaded at Index:Natural History, Mollusca.djvu if selected. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:19, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

March 2012
A couple of possibilities:
 * Sawdust & spangles; stories & secrets of the circus, which is about one of the first circusmen in America.
 * The National Gallery, which is a history of the National Gallery in London as at 1912
 * The Clergyman's Wife, and other sketches, a collection of short pen portraits. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Show Folks (small work, nice colour images)
 * Author:George Grossmith died 1 Mar 1912, and something like Diary of a Nobody is available, though has been done by PG, though without the images. It has sound recordings also available at archive.org to support it. — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * While I prefer other works in terms of their content, I like the cheekiness of the title of Sawdust and Spangles and feel that it works for a PotM. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds a good enough reason to me (and I'd like to do the Grossmith myself). Uploaded at Index:Sawdust & Spangles.djvu. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

April 2012
Billinghurst's suggestion below of the The merry muses of Caledonia set me thinking that we haven't done poetry as a POTM for some time. So I would like to propose a Poetry Month. I suggest we select a couple of books to do as poetry is often proofread quicker than prose. Here are two initial suggestions.
 * Burns's The merry muses of Caledonia : (original edition) a collection of favourite Scots songs ancient and modern : selected for use of the Crochallan Fencibles (1911)
 * A treasury of South African poetry & verse (1907) Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:25, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Why not try and capitalize on the John Carter of Mars movie by doing A Princess of Mars? We don't have a copy, but Google Books has one:  --Canageek (talk) 15:50, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We do have a number of the works currently Author:Edgar Rice Burroughs. Where we are working off scans, generally we prefer something other than Google scans, they generally inferior quality. archive.org — billinghurst  sDrewth  03:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I just gave that one after someone gave it to me on the wiksource IRC channel. I’m wondering if this would be a good month for it, as it will be most of a month since the movie when we start, and we already have the text of the first book, so it wouldn't take long to proofread it. On the other hand, I'm always in favour of more fiction. --Canageek (talk) 17:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to have a poetry month. I support The merry muses of Caledonia.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 15:25, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Caledonia selected. Uploaded at Index:Merry Muses of Caledonia.djvu. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:54, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Do we have a 'backburner' book for once Merry Muses is complete? I don't necessarily have a recommendation myself, but mentioned stuff on my LJB Talk page when chatting with BWC... It would be good to have a smooth transition once Merry Muses is complete. AKA Londonjackbooks 02:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of the South African book I listed above. Htonl has been doing stirling work with RSA law and we have several history books, but no literature. So, I thought this would be a start on filling a gap. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm all about filling in gaps... or at least narrowing them so that they're easier to traverse! Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 04:15, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

May 2012
For May, I would like to swap the suggested topic matter around and bump fiction to June. I was hoping that we could have one (two?) of the works of the British social activist and author Octavia Hill undertaken. This year marking the 100th year of her death, and if we can get done and tidied, I was hoping to nominate a work for Featured Text for August, the anniversary of her death. Works that I can find: I sometimes dislike letters as they can be a bit fiddly to typeset, though that is a type of work that is not well covered in our corpus. — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:07, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Our Common Land (and other short essays) (1877) ~220pp
 * Homes of the London poor (1875) ~85pp
 * Life of Octavia Hill as told in her letters, ed (1913) (600+pp, illustrations)


 * The 85 page one would probably be the right length for a PROTM, doubly so if it is a bit fiddly. We should probably have a backup work, but 220 pages sounds a wee bit long to me.

I'm always in favour of matching local events, so that when people google her name we have a chance of poping up. What if we found a fiction short story to do as the second work? Then we could do both.


 * How about somewhat of an obscure work from a well-known author? That would be interesting; although nothing comes to my mind at the moment... But I had never heard of Hugo's Ninety-three before it became a PotM, nor had I heard of Poe's Eureka (not a PotM, I don't believe) but that owes more to my not being as well read as I'd like to be than anything.  I don't think level of difficulty or number of pages should be a factor.  Just let it be inspiring and challenging—otherwise folks will just get bored with it.  But I am beating a dead horse, and have said all this before once or twice. Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:49, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I went that direction to start with by looking for different fictional works, then worked out that I was going to need a little more time to get Hill work in order, so my request for a swap-around. One of the things that I like with our works is picking up illustrations as that is one of our specific selling points over something like PG, similarly unusual works, or something that is quirky. For me part of the joy of PotM is doing things that are not one's usual working area, something out of the ordinary. In my opinion I find that doing something different also interests our PotM contributors and brings in newbies. — billinghurst  sDrewth 
 * Remember how Beeswaxcandle had a number of texts listed on the WS Main page for validation month last November in rotation? Why don't we do that with the first two books Billinghurst suggested above—killing two birds with one stone, so to speak.  Users can pick out which work they would like to work on, and as they familiarize themselves with her life and work, they may wish to eventually take up her Life [and] letters (1913).  Who knows?  Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:55, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Co-listing the two works is fine with me, or just having the plan to have the second work ready to go. — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support Billinghurst's proposal. I've got no problem swapping biography with fiction around, particularly with the purpose of getting some works for an anniversary. Makes it doubly interesting. The 220 pp work looks to be quite straightforward with ca. 150 words per page, so the 84 pp work should easily be done as well. I think the letters book would be too much of a stretch for PotM. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:02, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

June 2012
Open for suggestions for fictional works.


 * Vanity Fair has been suggested a couple of times. Our copy is incomplete and not backed by scans. There are several editions on IA that would be suitable.
 * The Adventures of Philip would be an alternative by Thackeray, which would appeal to LJB's idea of doing little known works. This copy is 1864, only two years after original publication.
 * Index:Twilight.djvu has been hanging around now for over 3 years, and suggested several times for PoTM. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:15, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Twilight is there and ready to go, and its ongoing presence and good OCR to me makes it my preferred candidate. I know nowt about the work itself. — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Twilight is selected. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:36, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

July 2012
It has become customary in July to do a geographical work on an area of the world that we have few or no works on. Here are a few possibilities: Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * A monograph of Christmas Island published by the British Museum in 1900
 * The Land of the Camel a book about Mongolia. Published in 1951 and doesn't appear to have been renewed—this will need double checking if decided on
 * A Picturesque Tour of the Island of Jamaica published in 1825 with hand-coloured aquatints
 * I'd prefer Jamaica. Christmas Island is quite difficult for a community proofread, Mongolia has copyright issues (if it has not in the US, it certainly has in other countries, because the author died in 1991).--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 15:23, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * "Christmas Island" looks far to complicated, to my opinion. "Jamaica" does not really look like a good community project, although the plates are beautiful! "Mongolia" is really a lot of work, but fits well in the PoTM profile. Is it in Public Domain???? - Dick Bos (talk) 12:39, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Jamaica is my choice among those works. It has a few pages of fiddly formatting, but it doesn't look impossible. It won't very last long, so a plan for what else we are going to do within the month would be an idea. — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

A further book on Mongolia (and West China) is A Wayfarer in China, published 1913 in US, we could plan to do this after the Jamaica work. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:17, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It has 400+pp though not intense pages, some illustrations, so it is not insignificant, though does meet the criteria of diverse places. In lieu of any other brilliant ideas, it looks reasonable to me. — billinghurst  sDrewth  17:46, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Jamaica selected as the first work for the month. Uploaded at Index:A Picturesque Tour of the Island of Jamaica.djvu Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ already. This beats last July's record of 6 days. The second work is now available at Index:A Wayfarer in China.djvu. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

At the rate A Wayfarer in China is going, we may need a third work for the month. Across Patagonia by Florence Dixie (1880) looks interesting as does A Residence at Sierra Leone by Elizabeth Colville (1849). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:02, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Or we could always bring back The life of Octavia Hill as told in her letters to knock some more of that out? Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:36, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just an observation within the last few months: it seems to me that we have been quick to validate PotM's while still in the middle of proofreading. In my opinion, this may contribute to more errors/inconsistencies within the work in the end. I have also noticed that some editors are able to validate a page-per-minute (not just PotM works)—evident in scanning past Recent pages; unless they are speed-readers or have more than one window open at a time, etc., it also seems to me that many errors may remain as a result of hasty validation.  Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * A Wayfarer in China has been completed. I've gone with LJB's suggestion and set up a rotation of a few works including the Octavia Hill. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

August 2012
Suggest we return to the sciences for August. There's the suggestion of The Oak: A Popular Introduction to Forest Botany from below. It's reasonably short, so we'd probably need a second work of similar length. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There are also often a series of small(er) works that we can look to add in, things like
 * Curie's The discovery of radium
 * An answer to the observations of Mr. Geach, and to the cursory remarks of Mr. Alcock, on Dr. Baker's essay on the endemial colic of Devonshire (1767)
 * Some recently discovered letters of William Harvey, with other miscellanea (1912)
 * Microscopes and accessory apparatus (1896)
 * The new treatment of snake-bite, with plain directions for injecting (1869)
 * You could poke through a page like http://archive.org/browse.php?field=subject&mediatype=texts&collection=francisacountwaylibrary, or we could look to some of what we have at Portal:Science, Portal:Geological Society of London or we could find some works by Author:Adam Sedgwick (1785-1873) [//archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%28Adam%20Sedgwick%29%20AND%20mediatype%3Atexts IA] where the cupboard is bare. I also think that we have some journals around too somewhere. — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Here are some on the subject that are already uploaded: --<font color="#9966FF">Birgitte <font color="#CC99CC" size="2">SB  12:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Index:A Treatise of the Mechanical Powers - Motte - 1733.djvu
 * Index:Aether and Matter, 1900.djvu
 * Index:London Journal of Botany, Volume 2 (1843).djvu
 * Index:London Journal of Botany, Volume 2 (1843).djvu
 * Index:A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism - Volume 1.djvu
 * We're pretty close to the end of The Oak, so will need a decision on the replacement work. Physics has never been a favourite, so I'm not inclined to those three works. The London Journal of Botany would be challenging, but possible. Another possibility is Index:Climatic Cycles and Tree-Growth - 1919.djvu, which is topical with respect to climate change. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:19, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * If there is need for an additional text, I'd like to suggest Assessing the accuracy and quality of Wikipedia entries compared to popular online encyclopaedias. This is an important and timely study in the Wikimedia world, and is released under CC BY-SA. I think it would be beneficial to get this transcribed quickly; it would showcase the benefits of Wikisource to a friendly audience. -Pete (talk) 14:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

September 2012
We try to do a work from Requested Texts each year. A couple of possibilities are: Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:24, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The War in Nicaragua by William Walker (1860)
 * My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus by Albert Mummery (1908?)
 * The European Concert in the Eastern Question by Thomas Holland (1885)
 * Nicaragua is probably of more interest to proofread; the treaties is probably more resource rich as a reference. Toss up, though we haven't done a historical resource this year, though the formatting is more complex. — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:12, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I weakened and favour the geek work, so I have uploaded File:The European Concert in the Eastern Question.djvu, the remainder will come later today, anyone else is welcome to complete. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

October 2012
Anyone got thoughts on a theme?


 * We haven't done anthropology for a while and I can find very little about the American First Nations here. What about The American Indian: an introduction to the anthropology of the New World ? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:26, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Another American history alternative is the historical novel: Bald Knobbers. It's a Google scan (bleh), but concerning a little-known period of American history (see: Bald Knobbers, but the article is about the historical movement, not the novel).  I first became familiar with the book when I picked up a copy in a small used bookshop in the Ozarks.  From the cover art, and my knowledge of local geography, I first assumed it was a post-apocalyptic sci-fi novel set in Bald Knob, Arkansas.  In fact, it was a historical novel about a vigilante movement in the Ozarks during the 1880s that developed as a reaction to the strong partisan justice of post Civil War Missouri. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:28, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * If we're going to do fiction in December, and I'm more than happy with that, I'd prefer to do something else this month (there'll also be be fiction in the rotation for November). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine with me, of course. On an additional note, I've located my copy of the novel, and was surprised to find that it's a different historical novel entitled Bald Knobbers.  Apparently, there was one published in 1910, and the one I have published much later by a different author.  Weird. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:34, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

November 2012
I'm a bit premature, but knowing November is Validation month, I thought I'd submit A Treasury of War Poetry among possible validation candidates while it's on my mind to do so. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 22:50, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Another good one would be Index:Ralph on the Railroad.djvu - lot of pages, and only a tiny bit of validating done. - Lucyrocks&#61;) (talk) 15:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Best to add any finished works that you wish to have up there for validation to Proofread of the Month/validation works — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:51, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

December 2012
Proposing a bit early, but I'd like to see us tackle a major work of English literature from a first edition copy. One possibility is George Eliot's The Mill on the Floss, for which we have a text but no source for verification. Possibly, the existing text can be matched and split, but that depends on the similarity of the current text we have to the original publication. The original was published in three volumes in 1860, and it looks as though all three volumes of the 1st edition have been scanned from the Oxford Library by the same individual and uploaded to the Internet Archive: vol. 1 vol. 2 vol. 3. The downside of these scans is that they're Google scans, however, there are several other scans available that I have not investigated to be certain they are 1st edition.

I wouldn't mind doing some other comparable work, and would even prefer to have us do Middlemarch, except that it's hideously lengthy. The Mill on the Floss is of a more reasonable length. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Generally we have been trying to do a seasonal work in December. It hasn't seemed to be the time for either complex or intense works. Generally, we have also found that the uptake on an existing work has been lesser, so at any time, if that is our intent I would think that our selling point is the uniqueness of the offering. — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)


 * But if a seasonal work is done every December, won't that overly bias the quality holdings of Wikisource? I do understand about having unique offerings, as I once worked at a website for which we found that the site pulled in far more people with our weird and unusual information than with the mainstream information, but on the other hand, the public thinks a site is weird if it lacks the common and everyday in favor of the unusual.  It's like a natural history museum without dinosaurs.


 * An English novel shouldn't be complex or intensive, as there won't be fancy formatting, notes, or illustrations to mess with. I also (as a teacher) have far more time to devote to projects around the holidays, when I don't have teaching responsibilities, and so look forward to tackling something bigger.  Of course, if we don't end up selecting a core novel, I suppose someone could help me to set up a project of my own, as such. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm more than happy to put up a major classic for December. Another possibility is Vanity Fair, our copy is incomplete and unillustrated. IA seems to have a first edition here, which although IA has it listed as Volume 2 appears to me to be complete in one volume when I compare beginning and ending with my Penguin edition. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:06, 14 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd be for doing that, if it's truly complete. I know Vanity Fair has been nominated a number of times, and it's certainly a well-known work. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It's complete, except for two pages of the table of contents (drat). And the file's too big for easy manipulation. I prefer to stick to first editions if possible (and to avoid google scans as their illustrations are usually crap). There is a non-google set of first edition The Mill on the Floss, , as a possibility. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:41, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Another possibility is The Moonstone (1874) by Wilkie Collins; the work is considered the first detective novel in the English language, and laid the ground rules for future such novels (according to WP). We have only an incomplete copy, and an unproofread source text. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Beeswaxcandle, is there anything I can help with? Vanity Fair on IA is *beautiful* and has a good number of illustrations as you already know. Is the text on WS identical to the text on IA in Vanity Fair? If so is it possible to add the images to what we have on WS? When I was looking at those illustrations of the Victorian Era those top hats reminded me of "Mr. Scrooge" :) What about discarding the text of Vanity Fair that we have and getting that illustrated version -- it's superior because illustrations are pleasing to the eye plus they show historical content -- (period) clothing, the way people lived and what they did and what they used, et cetera. Can you access HathiTrust? Perhaps they have those two missing pages you've mentioned. I am willing to help with whatever I can. Kindest regards, Maury ( &mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 21:15, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Maury, it's this copy that I really want to have on enWS. It's the best copy of the illustrations that I can find on IA. What needs to happen is that the two pages get inserted and then the file re-uploaded to IA over the top of the current one (if that's possible). There is a google copy with the two pages, but it's incomplete in other ways and the illustrations are hopeless. It's the sort of thing I would normally ask George & Ineuw to help with, but it's such a big file (> 30 Mb) that I don't want to impose on their kindness. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:19, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Beeswaxcandle, we are all friends working together here. You have helped many and continue to do more for many of us in working and helping others on en.WS Personally I think the two pages can be inserted. I think I have seen AdamBMorgan handle a situation like that but Ineuw is the best here that I know of with handling images & more as with text layers. As we both know GEO III is excellent at most everything. I do understand your point about not wanting to impose upon any of them but there are times when friends, or just people who work together should at least ask others for help and this situation is for all of en.WS as opposed to something personal. I looked on HathiTrust and there are many versions there but your link above points to the 1848 edition and there are three of those and illustrated (Vanity Fair A Novel without a hero by William Makepeace Thackery) (1848) on HathiTrust. I will see what I can do to help. *I* will ask for help out of a believed necessity for the sake of en.WS via private mail. Most Respectfully, Maury (&mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 23:03, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Beeswaxcandle, WMMII emailed me regarding this, but the issue is unclear to me. First, regarding file size, 30MB is nothing :-) One image file of PSM ranges from 350MB and greater (and had to download some twice). My concern is that I am still very weak in page insertions while safeguarding the text layer. On the other hand, if one try fails, I have no qualms about doing it again, as practice makes one better. I am happy to contribute but need to know exactly what is needed to be done. I would like to look at the existing and possible versions as well. — Ineuw talk 00:33, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * FWIW, the only version we currently have is incomplete (about 30%) and was done from a Project Gutenberg source, so as yet there are no original page scans uploaded. From the discussion so far, it sounds as though 2 pages of the contetns are missing and need to be inserted, but it might be a good idea for someone to peruse the entire work slowly, to check for any other possibly missing pages.  I know that Mpaa has done a similar insertion, when we found that P.G. Wodehouses's Mike was missing 9 pages of illustrations.  In that situation, the revised upload preserved the original text layer, so I know that Mpaa can handle such a task successfully. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:39, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry - forgot to mark the post for my watchlist. (Thanks WM2 :-D) Also, I was away from the computer. I will gladly replace the old version with any version desired. I have NO problem with that. I already looked at the IA Google version, but admittedly it's quite poor, partially because of the printing technology (1848) and in part because Google scan destroys the flavour of the original. I also copied the first image to check for quality and it's also quite poor. Nevertheless, if someone points me to the desired copy, I will gladly do the right thing. :-) — Ineuw talk 01:52, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * (e/c)I forget that there are places in the world with fast unlimited broadband. When one has 30Gb a month at random speeds with a maximum of ca. 250 kbits/s one is careful about how one uses it. I've gone through the first 130 or so pages of the good IA file in their "Read online" mode and the only pages missing are print pages xiv and xv, which are the two I found in the google text and pointed to above. As those pages don't have illustrations on them, maybe a simple insertion into the djvu file before uploading it to Commons may be the most practical. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:00, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I will look at the issue immediately an in the future, if anyone has a limited Internet service and I can be of help, please ask. I have no limit, and my (small) ISP is aware of my contribution & work and is very supportive. — Ineuw talk 02:09, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * P.S: I understand the issue, and will prepare and upload a new version, just please bear with me. Also, do you need high quality images? I can download the .JP2 file as well. Please let me know. — Ineuw talk 02:19, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I usually rip images from the IA "Read online" view. I'm not sure what our regular PotM image people (Laverock, Slowking4, Theornamentalist) do, but we seem to end up with high quality images. Might just leave it to them to decide what they want to do. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:31, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Inserted: Beez, it is best if Ineuw downloads those image formats he has mentioned. Seriously, he is excellent doing quality images and if I am right he can do batch loads and he has uploaded way over more than 1,000 images to commons. It is vague on recall for me but I think his count is around 55,000 images on commons! It appears to me that Ineuw is the best option over anyone else and typically he is exceptionally helpful. As he states, "just ask" whereas the others, at the present, will have to be asked. I know for a fact that Ineuw loves to do image work and using his preferred format of JP2. We once clashed over wanting to do images because we enjoy them so much. I'll ask for you, Ineuw, what do you prefer to do? Do you really want the image work or should we ask someone else with the hope that they like image work and can do it as well as you do --which I think is impossible. Ineuw, what is your present image count on Commons? Respects to all, Maury ( &mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 00:55, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Inserted the two missing pages and uploaded the new copy HERE It's being processed now which can usually take anywhere from a few to 24 hours depending on the time of day and the day of the week. If I forget to monitor the page, which can (and does) happen as I get involved with something else, just let me know and will upload it to the commons. I also downloaded the .JP2 images and FYI, there are 191 illustrations. I hope this helps. :-) — Ineuw talk 04:07, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Given that we're still waiting for IA to process the newly uploaded file and there are still problems with getting the text layer on newly uploaded works and there is also the very kind offer of Ineuw (below) to deal with the images in January, let's delay Vanity Fair into the new year and use December to work on something that has already been uploaded. Some possibilities: *Index:All the Year Round - Series 1 - Volume 1.djvu (a journal edited by Charles Dickens *Index:The Art of Cross-Examination.djvu *Index:Coo-ee - tales of Australian life by Australian ladies.djvu *Index:Handbook for Boys.djvu Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:32, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Ugh, none of the above are good for December. December is known for Christmas themes. None of the above are about Christmas themes. I looked at each of them. The 1st shown is too long to edit in time, and has "the mob fired on the and the musketeers fired on the mob [?]; another Law and Cross-examination, yet another is about The Boy Scouts and that last one is about Australia! How are any of those related to Christmas? That doesn't matter? Then what about "The Devil's Dictionary" for December? Most everyone knows about Christmas in December including the people of Great Britain and "Dickens" was born in England. I suggest we look to see if we have or can find that Christmas Classic, an illustrated version of "The Christmas Carol" by Dickens or *something about Christmas*. Those others you've mentioned are more like something for Proofread of the Month. &mdash;  William Maury Morris II  Talk 23:07, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) I also can't say that any of those new nominations stand out for me, but I also don't think that 8% of our annual PotM output needs to be Christmas themed. Don't forget that  The Moonstone  is a PotM nomination that's been hanging around for a while (see top of this page), and it does already have a Source uploaded, with the OCR layer already pulled and Index page set up.  The only complicating issue is that there is an (incomplete) existing text at The Moonstone that will need to be replaced as a result of having the full source now. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict with the immediate above) What do people think about in December. The following are what people think about in December.


 * There are many choices already completed on Wikisource under these areas including an en.WS book. OR gather the smaller ones and rotate them.




 * http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Portal:Christmas


 * http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Christmas


 * http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Our_American_Holidays_-_Christmas



&mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 23:47, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree with EncycloPetey on the progress of The Moonstone but when I looked through the book I saw nothing orientated towards December nor of Christmas. I next searched Internet Archives and MSN provided me with a combination of December, Christmas, and Santa. It is entitled as,  St. Nicholas; his legend and his role in the Christmas celebration and other popular customs  (1917) [155 pages and illustrated]. I also doubt that many people even know of this history and believe it should be known. There are also a few poems which LondonJackBooks might like. It is an attractive and historical book that hopefully will attract our editors. It is located here: http://archive.org/details/stnicholashis00mckn It seems to me that both works could be completed in the month of December. What we do not want, Beeswaxcandle, is a repeat of an unfinished work due to a lack of interest by our editors such as that long one you thanked me for completing recently after the POM was over. Kind regards to all and Happy Holidays! Maury ( &mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 00:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Why focus on English-speaking views of this season?--ep

Ouch! Well, why not or as Lafayette would say, "Cur Non?" since it was his motto. Too, probably because I myself am an English-speaking person and this is anEnglish WS area (EN.ws)-wmm


 * The upper image (Adoration of the Magi [by the Magi]) you posted would be a January topic--ep

That upper image you refer to was already in that area of already completed works as was the Santa image. I placed those en.WS links of areas on Christmas here along with the 2 images for emphasis of Christmas-wmm


 * for Catholic and Spanish-speaking countries.--ep

The United States of America has lots of Catholics including some my own families and the USA is also a "Spanish-speaking" (ES.WS) nation along with many other ethnic groups and their languages such as "Little Italy" in New York or Chinatown in San Francisco.--wmm


 * And few of my Jewish friends ever focus much on Christmas or St. Nicholas, except to fill in shifts when their co-workers want time off.

Then why do you not suggest something for your Jewish friends? Moonstone isn't in Hebrew either. Jesus was a Jew. But I do not know Hebrew, I cannot speak nor read nor write in Hebrew. How and why would any Hebrew work be transcribed here on EN.ws? (English Wikisource)--wmm


 * Again, it's nice to do a holiday theme every couple of years or so, but if we do PotM for a holiday every month or every year, then we short-change both ourselves and our readers by focussing too much on one theme.--ep

"If" is a small word with a great connotation; a set of associations implied by the word in addition to its literal meaning, and your use of it above indicates an assumption that what you state is something that will be. Fact is, I am not familiar with past POMs. I learned of it recently and and only recently learned of "Featured Texts" where I an others, including Beeswaxcandle, worked on a book on Mexico that became a "Featured Text".--wmm


 * And we can't upload a new file for PotM; that's the primary reason we've had to consider abandoning the community first choice of Vanity Fair—it likely won't be loaded in time.

I only suggested a book and it is a good book. It is totally uploaded on IA and it is related to the month of December as well as several other nations and their history of Santa. It is also a short work of 155 pages. What have you suggested other than Moonstone which has any connection with the month of December?--wmm


 * So, suggesting something else that isn't loaded yet does not help.

I have known even you to pull a book from IA for me and set it up in just a short while, not even a day. AdamBMorgan has done the same for me with many books and less time. At least I am on topic with the month of December that much of the world can relate to.--wmm


 * We wouldn't be able to do it anyway. Since we did a Christmas theme last year around this time, and the year before,

I would not know as I was not involved. I was working on other books. Still, in those links I brought here that are shown above I only saw one "book" but again you do say, "Christmas theme" which doesn't seem like books were involved much less more than the one book I saw amongst those links I have placed here.--wmm


 * I personally feel we should do something else. Otherwise, one in twelve of our PotM collaborations will be on a single Western holiday. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:50, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

I personally feel too and Moonstone isn't it for your Jewish friends on EN.ws where "English" is spoken, read, and edited. Your friends have their own WS area and I do not think they do POM works for others to read outside of their wiki area as you suggest here for them. Pause and think of which Wiki area this is. Aside from all of this as your statements and my replies your suggestion and my suggestion are only "suggestions". Others will decide what to do one way or another. Since Moonstone has been here unfinished for a long time then why is that? Popular? --wmm

&mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 03:01, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Maury, please don't split up my comments; it makes it very hard for others to follow the flow of what I wrote. I repeat, we cannot do a work that is not already uploaded here or 'on Commons.  The fact that something exists on IA does not help right now because we currently have a software glitch that is preventing us from accessing the OCR layer of any texts uploaded in the past week.  So, a work must already be uploaded to Commons in order for us to be able to work on it for PotM in December.  Because of this, your suggestion of a work that has not been uploaded on Commons cannot be selected for December.  Is that clear now? --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:31, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, the point about a software glitch makes it all clear. I wish you had stated that in the beginning. But The Moonstone is a terrible choice (for me) for the month of December. It is heathen/pagan -- about a diamond aka the "moonstone" stolen by a corrupt British army officer, greed, three Hindu priests have dedicate their lives to recovering it, murder, embezzlement, diamond finally returned to forehead of a "idol" in India. I liked Indiana Jones but the choice of that book is not a good choice for December when we focus upon One True God who isn't made of stone, faith, and Saint Nicholas, family and friends gathered together. I think I saw "not completed" when I looked that book over. It's okay as fiction for some other month (Indiana Jones' birth month perhaps). Even he had to gather sacred stones that glowed yellow when he placed them back in an idol -- can we say "idolatry"? I prefer to vote for what Londonjackbooks has suggested. I do not think her dad would choose something bad for his daughter. Maury ( &mdash;  William Maury Morris II  Talk 14:56, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, PotM has been going since 2008. The works we have done in the preceeding 4 Decembers are: Our American Holidays - Christmas, Handel (Rolland), The Fables of Florian (tr. Phelps) & Yule Logs. There is no real trend here. Whatever is selected must already be available as an Index. We cannot at present select a work that is entirely new to enWS, because of the text-layer problems. The Moonstone was rejected as a PotM due to us already having a copy. I see that I rejected a Match and Split request on the grounds that the editions appear to be different (based on dates), and so when it eventually gets proofread it will need to be transcluded to a new set of pages. Also, if we still have a major fiction work in December, we won't be getting to Vanity Fair for some months. The list of suggestions above were only that, and I am happy to look at other suggestions from Category:Index Not-Proofread, but those suggestions need to be made in the next 12–24 hours as I don't expect to be able to be involved in the decision after then. [That's not to say that I have to be involved.] Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

How about Index:The varieties of religious experience, a study in human nature.djvu? My Dad has been trying to get me to read it for some years now, so if it is not complete by December's end, I would at least feel obligated to complete it myself... eventually... ;) Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:37, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with what Londonjackbooks has posted above. She is strong in her faith as far as I have been able to determine and can also make her Dad happy at the same time to look at en.ws and see that he was not forgotten in his request of his daughter. Maury ( &mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 14:56, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * (OT) Not sure where my faith comes into play where WS is concerned; but I hope at least to be a faithful renderer—as in this 'business', "ability [is] more valuable, because less easily pretended, than piety." Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:14, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * That's it, a faithful renderer even to the point of where you once did a work and copied the staples shown in the scan. Maury ( &mdash;  William Maury Morris II  Talk 17:21, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Part of the point in choosing a novel for December is that the formatting would be minimal, and therefore make work editing it easier. This book has lengthy footnotes, which sometimes cross multiple pages, different sizes of text, and other advanced formatting issues.  Would we really finish a 500 page book in December with such advanced formatting? --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:16, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * There are (roughly) between 25-30 instances where lengthy footnotes span multiple pages (I'll personally claim these if it would help). Different font sizes involve mostly quotations in the text.  Otherwise, formatting issues are actually minimal.  If we concentrate primarily on proofreading vice validating, an average of 20pp per day would do it.  But there has to be a desire to do so on behalf of editors, and I'm game for whatever! Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:37, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Where are all of the other editors in this? What choice do they want? Will they assist or are they going to be away for the holidays? Whatever we choose to work on I believe we should be united to get the work completed. Thus far we here conversing over this are only three. Therefore, I am willing to go with either of the two works mentioned by EncycloPetey or Londonjackbooks. I will assist as best as I can on either choice they make. But will the both of them do the same and work on whichever book is finally chosen? That would give us at least three editors. Maury ( &mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 21:21, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * My key criterion is for an important work of English (language) literature, preferably a novel of some literary or historical importance. The specific book we select is less of an issue for me.  December is my longest holiday of the school year, during which time I'll have far more time to volunteer here, and I want something to read, not something to format. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:18, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Regarding "The Moonstone", it shows on its Index page, "(Incomplete) text has been posted at The Moonstone. scans from Google Books, with blank front- and back-pages and matter that was not part of the original published text deleted."

So, how would we handle that "Incomplete text"? What I personally do not want is an unfinished book. I believe that we can finish a work if we work together—at the very least we can try. Kindest regards to those who care. Maury ( &mdash; William Maury Morris II  Talk 16:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I have just gone through our maintext copy of The Moonstone and compared it with a copy on IA. Our current copy is complete and all we would be doing is adding another edition (albeit scan backed). This definitely puts the work out of contention for any PotM and I will remove it from the list at the top of this page. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:43, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I had been wondering why Hallelujah by the choir of King's College, Cambridge -- a performance of Handel's Messiah -- kept playing in my mind while I have been editing "The Moonstone" today. Now I know. "The Moonstone" wasn't meant to be (again). Maury (&mdash;  William Maury Morris II  Talk 19:08, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

December POM redux
I feel somewhat touched by WMM2 volunteering me, but December is a short and busy personal month for everyone and thus it's an unrealistic target for a book of ~700 pages and 191 images, and which is not even in our possession. January is a more realistic target by which time I will prepare the images. This means that I am volunteering to do them.

Re my image contributions, the above mentioned figures are very kind and "wildy" incorrect. I have no idea how many images I contributed and it's irrelevant. To clarify, I download the .JP2 hi resolution file from IA, but the software useed (Irfanview) converts them to .JPG or .PNG (my favourite format). I was forced into using .PNG some time ago and it turned out to be [somewhat] superior to .JPG where drawings are concerned. For photos, it doesn't matter. — Ineuw talk 19:33, 25 November 2012 (UTC)


 * It is vague on recall for me but I think his count is around 55,000 images on commons!" I said, "it is vague on recall".  However, I do remember it is a high number and the relevancy behind my statement is that Ineuw likes (once liked?) image work and is very good as well as fast through working on so many images while perfecting himself and his methods with each new bad image as a challenge. I also did not know how many pages and how many images are in that book. I had no reason to seek out that information. Happy Holidays to one and all, "Maury" -- (aka WMM2, WMMI, WM2, WMII) ( &mdash;  William Maury Morris II  Talk 21:16, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

January 2013
For January I suggest something quirky or a little off-beat. A couple of suggestions:
 * Medical Directions for the Use of Navigators and Settlers in Hot Climes (1803)
 * Evolution of the Thermometer 1592-1743
 * How to write a short story Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:17, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I have reservations about selecting the fist one. Not only does it include long-s font, which will slow things down, but also it recommends poisonous compounds for ingestion.  I've not looked at the other two, but the topic for either seems agreeable. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:11, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

A couple that I bookmarked at a point of time
 * The show folks! (1831) bit of prose, some nice colour images, small work, 130pp but octavo
 * The Early English Organ Builders And Their Work some engravings, octavo, about 140pp


 * The Early English Organ Builders looks really interesting. When did we last do something on music?  It's short, though, and so might last only a week or two, depending on the speed at which the community works. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:07, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Uploaded and index at Index:The Early English Organ Builders and their work.djvu — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:47, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

The three transcriptions endorsed by EncycloPetey—Evolution of the thermometer, How to write a short story, The early English organ builders and their work—may be done in succession. They are very short, but the last one/two may be postponed if a month isn't enough to proofread them. Here is the first one: Index:Evolution of the thermometer.djvu.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 11:18, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan. Adding a few smaller quirky pieces works for me, actually good in my opinion, as people like to get a touch on all of them. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

How about Tensing Exercises (1913) by Edward Barrett Warman [114 pp]. It's a little volume of physical exercises (all illustrated) from the turn of the century. At the rate we're crunching through the nominations this month, we may be done by the 10th! I'm therefore suggesting another quirky little book to follow the previous suggestions (if indeed one is needed). --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:51, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Index:Tensing Exercises.djvu in place if needed, and it looks that way. — billinghurst  sDrewth  10:10, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * How about a book on how to play chess? There is a short, 36 pp. book on Google Books that is not at Archive.org, and there is a longer 160+ pp. book on Archive.org.  After only a quick look, I would prefer the shorter version, but being that it is less easily accessed(?) not yet being on Archive.org, time constraints may be an issue? Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:17, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There are also [two] [books] by noted German chess grand master Emaneul Lasker at archive as well. MarkLSteadman (talk) 17:36, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I think length may be an issue (time constraints?), but others can decide that. Maybe for a future PotM?  Just a thought.  I don't know how to play chess, so I would lack insight into an 'appropriate' book. Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:27, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ...so we could even do more than one of these in a later "Chess Month", if we don't have time this month. That sounds like a good suggestion.  Note that there is wikicode developed specifically for the display of chess board arrangements, so any board position diagrams in the book could be rendered in wikicode as well as (or in place of) an image file. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Or even just a "games month," one chess book with a book a on a card game (whist, bridge, cribbage)? or a book on go or backgammon or dominoes? I would only suggest to avoid a chess book that is too encyclopedic of chess openings/endgames which might be tedious to some. MarkLSteadman (talk) 20:48, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Just one month, though,—not the same month per annum, right? I agree that the book/s should be instructional, yet easy enough for me to 'get'.  I like the 36pp. book's philosophical take on the game.  Londonjackbooks (talk) 21:36, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Right, as a one-off. The 36pg. Heywood. looks fine and beginner friendly. MarkLSteadman (talk) 21:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Tensing Exercises finished, so Short Story book uploaded. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:11, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, that one didn't last long. Some more possibilities (I couldn't find a book on Bingo, sorry Maury):


 * ROFL !  Sorry Beez, I apologize for my freak-out on those two goofy books but I did do some edits on them. There were just too, well, I don't know any other way to say what I already said and feel to be true. You fellows down there in New Zealand need a better library. Do they ever let you off that island? How about international interlibrary oceanic loans? Why not one of those two Asian books that EncycloPetey suggested? —Maury (talk) 01:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Index:The Art of Cross-Examination.djvu
 * Index:English as She is Spoke.djvu
 * Index:The Spirit of the Chinese People.djvu
 * Index:String Figures and How to Make Them.djvu
 * Index:Village life in Korea (1911).djvu
 * Care and management of rabbits
 * Any takers? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The book choices of Evolution of the thermometer and Tensing Exercises are both bland and UGH-able boring books. The quality is lacking. What happened with the better books like the two Asian books that someone else mentioned and I agreed with -- those aren't bland and UGH-able boring books! Have you all become old and just seeking wee short so-called "books" because they were printed -- for the sake of getting wee books completed fast? Quality not quantity or better yet both quality and quantity for WS. Chess, cribbage...and how about a hot game of Bingo in the old folks home at 20 cents per piece of winning corn for an fast-paced and lively-entertaining-everlasting wonder? —Maury (talk) 20:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The two Asian books you refer to are for March. This month is for books that are a little off the usual beat, or a bit quirky. So far, they seem to be quite popular with 24 different editors taking part. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * "Care and management of rabbits" might work, but it's a bit text heavy, and might offend a few animal-rights folks. It's also a bit longer than the successful selections we've had so far this month.  I believe part of the reason PotM has been so popular this month is that, not only are the selections quirky, but they're short enough that we have constant novelty of new works without the tedium that sometimes sets in when a work drags on for a full month.  So, if we can keep the selections this month on the shorter side, as well as being quirky and varied, we may pull in a lot more new participants.  In any case, I suspect the rabbit book would be worth having on Wikisource, and we could choose it if we need to. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:51, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * To add to the list of potential candidates. Japanese flower arrangement applied to western needs [] MarkLSteadman (talk) 01:56, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * SUPPORT—I like the immediate above on "Japanese flower arrangements...." I love/like almost all things Asian. My computer room is fully decorated with an Asian theme. There are two of these books and both have 88 illustrations; one shows 1st edition with 401 pages while the other shows 88 illustrations with 663 pages. I would be willing to work on the images, perhaps all since there are only 88 illustrations. My work with illustrations can be seen in present works such as The Clipper-Ship Era and ''John Cassell's Illustrated History of England v 1 and other works before these I am presently working on. I shift back and forth between these two works but I also always assist in "proofread of the month" —Maury (talk) 04:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My thoughts on the books suggested above is that I wasn't particularly impressed by the shorter ones, and while the cat's cradle looks interesting, 400 pages of figures might be too long... I thought that since there seemed to be interest in Asian and instructional works, it looked like a somewhat off-beat topic, and had lots of nice illustrations it would make a good candidate for PotM. MarkLSteadman (talk) 05:21, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I looked this book over once again and I saw only 218 numbered pages inside. Therefore, there are others on-line and using the same illustrations or I did a miscount but I don't believe I did. Whatever, we can take the cards dealt to us. Anybody got a book on poker? The Asian book cited above is a good book "to my liking". I like the Asians art of "bonsai" when they grow dwarfed, ornamentally shaped trees or shrubs in small shallow pots or trays. They are a highly creative people. Uh Oh! Mark, two other Asian books are ahead of this one. Well, it can still be done even if not a proofread of the month (POM)(PotM)<-Pot!M_ary Jane". There is an old but interesting topic of the 60's and 70's many people will now deny. Wild Times & Hard Times. Any 1800's books about it? Ships once used "hemp" for docking hawsers. —Maury (talk) 06:16, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Selected and uploaded. Now in the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:20, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

What a busy month! Another possible offering for the mix:
 * Mr. Punch's Book of Sports, a collection of British sports humor and cartoons from Punch magazine circa 1910. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:39, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * SUPPORT— Busy as Bees can possibly be, right Beez?. Only about 195 pages not counting blank pages and Library Card.(When is it due back?) I got several "chuckles" just looking the pages over. The illustrations are grand and with no bingo. :) —Maury (talk) 21:06, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Also The Cycle Industry (160pp), which covers the history and design of early bicycles, tricycles, etc. Lots of illustrations of odd-looking early contraptions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 07:18, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Japanese flowers is finished. I've selected English as She is Spoke as it's already loaded and it's the middle of the night here. We can swap to Punch or the Cycle Industry when they're loaded. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:52, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, Lordy, please save something for another day. English as She is Spoke? I am already sleepy from being up all night and into this morning. How did it come about that British spellings are so often (or vs our) (z vs s ) different than American English? When did this start and by whom? I suspect Americans at some point after the American Revolution against being 13 more of Great Britain's Colonies. BTW, the little island of England (aka "Angland") learned about gaining power from Rome conquering her and remaining about 500 years. We are all descended from Germanic tribes and Romans! Why didn't more of England's colonies rebel? And why not the humor(our-our) y col-'our'-ful book above, Mr. Punch's Book of Sports Probably everyone (including our 24 editors) knows how to ride a bicycle or tricycle plus the people in China and Japan where every household made of Adobe bricks has unique flower arrangements. Let us all validate my work on The Clipper-Ships Era first. I like it here on WS. It's a lot of Goodwill and lighthearted rapport amongst 24 WS editors. --Signed, Saint George the Dragon Slayer  —Maury (talk) 17:55, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Take a look at the book. English as she is Spoke is not the sort of book you'd expect from the title.  It was written by two Portuguese who wanted to prepare a useful introductory phrasebook for English learners, but they botched the job horribly.  The result is unintentionally comical, and the book has had a cult following ever since.  I suspect that it was the inspiration behind the Monty Python sketch in which a Hungarian tourist visits a tobacconist, consults his phrasebook, then exclaims "My hovercraft is full of eels!"


 * EncycloPetey, I did look at the book and I like it. I also saw the authors names and I know I edited 1 page but on recall it was about 2 or 3 pages. I like Monty Python a lot.

I was missing sleep in that message above. That happens sometimes because bad dreams awaken me and my instinct is to come here to forget the bad dreams. I have often wondered throughout my life about why the differences in British and American English spellings though. I have never heard anyone say nor have I seen anything written that covers it. I even liked that fat man exercise book. Factually, it is a good book for those out of shape to start getting in shape. I have been a health person all of my life and I stay in shape and visit my primary physician every 6 months after I have had blood drawn to be inspected. There is a very _hardcore flu in this nation at this point_ and I cannot get a flue shot because in my old age I am now allergic to something in that particular shot. In the military you get mixtures of germs in each shot and you get a shot in both arms at the same time over several days. It protects you from _everything_ but now I find myself getting a bad reaction from just one civilian flu shot! I am invincible no more. Go figure.., body changes with time and age. The books chosen recently are fine and I always have backup projects I can work on instead including the one I think you set up for me on Clipper Ships! I like that book a lot. I also like my book on England a lot that AdamBMorgan set up for me to work on and Beeswaxcandle has helped me with in setting up multiple volumes. Respectfully, —Maury (talk) 00:30, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I've uploaded "Mr Punch's Sports" to Commons, but haven't yet set up an index page. I'll do that, and also upload the cycling book and the one on raising bunnies either tonight or tomorrow. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:23, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * "raising bunnies"? You must be joking. :-) I hope it has a Playboy theme. —Maury (talk) 00:30, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Index:Mr. Punch's Book of Sports.djvu now exists. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Index:The Cycle Industry (1921).djvu is now added. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

February 2013
Let's get Vanity Fair scheduled in. Ineuw has already done the images for us, so we can focus on the text. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:20, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. This is a great work of English literature that has been requested several times, and which we've never gotten around to having complete. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:06, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

March 2013
For March, I'd like to see us do something on Japanese drama. Almost all of the works we currently have pertaining to Japan concern World War II. We don't have their art, culture, literature, language, history, etc., so a work covering dramatic performance will fit into a very large hole in our topical coverage. I find two good choices on IA:


 * Japanese Plays and Playfellows (1901) by Osman Edwards
 * Tales from Old Japanese Dramas (1915) by Asataro Miyamori

The former work is slightly shorter and covers more the history of actors and stage performance in Japan, while the latter work covers the plots, themes, and stories of Japanese drama. Neither one contains any Japanese script that I could spot, which would have increased difficulties in transcription. Rather the Japanese words are rendered in romaji (Roman script), so the only oddity will be the macrons over certain vowels. The latter book is also richly illustrated. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I like them both! I have always admired Asians and their cultures. I also am an art lover and have visited a fair number of art museums. The 1st listed shows colored images. How colors are used is an art form in itself. The 2nd has more illustrations but none are colored (alas!) I hope that we can start with the 1st and then we will know if we can add the 2nd one. If we cannot do both for March then let us do the other anyhow even if it is not for any specific month. "Please" They have a fantastic history. Are others here aware of the origins of martial arts? I was raised with Judo (some brought back by American soldiers from Korea; my uncle was a POW there and so he taught me some years after he escaped and came home. He had been declared "dead" and my grand-mother was given such notice plus my uncle's "Purple Heart" although unknown that my uncle was alive. He and many others were on a death march but hundreds "ran for it" (freedom or die). I studied 6 other forms of martial arts in my youth. It came in handy during Vietnam. My father and uncle knew there would be another war waiting for me and my generation as there are always wars. I cannot remember not studying Judo under my father and his brother or not practising targets with a pistol and rifle. These have always been in my life. In the old days warlords who ruled areas would not allow the farmers to have any weapons but they devised weapons from the tools they worked with and appeared to be helpless but they were not helpless and thus entered martial arts for self-defense and defense of family against warlords and their men with swords. Anyhow, I like both books. —Maury (talk) 00:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know where we are for suggestions anymore but I still like EncycloPetey's suggestions shown below. —Maury (talk) 02:39, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

" For March, I'd like to see us do something on Japanese drama. Almost all of the works we currently have pertaining to Japan concern World War II.  We don't have their art, culture, literature, language, history, etc., so a work covering dramatic performance will fit into a very large hole in our topical coverage.  I find two good choices on IA:


 * Japanese Plays and Playfellows (1901) by Osman Edwards
 * Tales from Old Japanese Dramas (1915) by Asataro Miyamori


 * There having been no objections, could someone please create the Index pages for these two works? We'll work on them one at a time. We may need a third work to cover the month, but let's see how we go. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Index:Japanese plays and playfellows (1901).djvu is up. Moondyne (talk) 14:17, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


 * In the event that a third work is needed, we could do: A History of Japanese Literature (1899) by W. G. Aston. We have a woefully incomplete copy right now.  The only downside is that the book is mostly text, not images.  If people think we'd rather like to do an image-intensive work, then I have some suggestions set aside. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:39, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Moondyne (talk) 05:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support—Maury (talk) 06:08, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Also "Things Japanese: being notes on various subjects connected with Japan for the use of travellers and others" by Basil Hall Chamberlain (1890) (1891 ed.). Reprints up to 2007. Its a nice A-Z encyclopaedia type book which I imagine would be a worthwhile reference. Everything from Abacus to Zoology. Lots of text, no images (save for a map) and hardly any tables. Moondyne (talk) 06:59, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support—Maury (talk) 07:12, 1 March 2013 (UTC) The above mentioned encyclopedia is very nice!


 * Were we going to continue on to do Index:Tales from old Japanese dramas (1915).djvu? The Index page is up. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:43, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: Most of the formatting is in the introductory chapter (short) and in the page headers, with some italics and ō characters, as in the previous work. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:47, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

April 2013
This one ticks a number of boxes. Poet and illustrator in one; female author; images are of excellent quality; quality scan — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:20, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The romance of nature; or, The flower-seasons illustrated by Louisa Anne Meredith


 * Looks good to me. However, as it looks a bit short and therefore might not last the whole month, I'll suggest The Ballads of Marko Kraljević (1922) as translated by D. H. Low as a back-up.  Prince Marko is a Serbian folk hero, and this epic poem about his deeds is a cornerstone of their literature, as well as being popular in Bulgaria and Mecedonia. (See the Wikipedia article about Prince Marko in poetry.) --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It would be nice if we could determine in some manner as to how many people are willing to work on which books that are chosen as proofread of the month -- or perhaps have a backup book. As is, there is a possibility that Prince Marko, or whatever else, may be chosen but the work could easily remain unfinished or worked on by one person and the book would be left with other unfinished works. Perhaps two small books could be finished? I myself like the basics of what I looked at in Flower Seasons Illustrated shown above but not Prince Marko of Serbia. —Maury (talk) 05:33, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understood my nomination. I suggested Prince Marko as an option to follow The Romance of Nature only in the event that it does not last through the entire month.  I did this because the origina nomination has relatively few pages, with little text on each page.  It is quite likely we'll be done with it in a short time, so I want there to be an option for us to continue on to in the event that this happens. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you are correct, I didn't understand your point as stated in the immediate above with one following the other. However, anyone who looks at "Prince Marko" will see that it has sidenotes and footnotes and uses a lot of symbols. Because of this I don't know if we could finish that book. This is why I mentioned "two small works". I think the difference is this; some people here can handle sidenotes quickly whereas others like myself cannot. I have only expressed my opinion and yours is just as valid. We're all different. I see Prince Marko as being nothing but boring, long, and with all text and symbols whereas I love illustrated works regardless of length of text. But your nomination really does not matter a lot to me either way because I will continue to busy myself with the Illustrated History of England volume 1 of 9 volumes which will take 4-ever. Best wishes to all, —Maury (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Where did you see sidenotes? There weren't any that I found, unless you mean the line numbers for the poetry, which has its own template here. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:51, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think The Ballads of Marko Kraljević is too complex for POTM. I see lots references as well as foreign words which newbies will find intimidating. Poetry line numbers (eg. pline) aren't hard but add another layer of trickiness. NB, I noticed a duplicate scan on pages xvi and xvii. Moondyne (talk) 06:09, 31 March 2013 (UTC)


 * There having been no objection to the Meredith work, it is selected. Could someone please upload and create the index (I have limited bandwidth at present)? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If I (or someone else) doesn't have this up in the next five hours, please put a reminder on my talk page. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:39, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I've now uploaded the file from the linked source above, but Google Books had only a PDF, and no DjVu version of the file. It seems to have no text layer. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:02, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Bother. pdf files don't work with the potm and collaboration templates. There are a couple of copies on IA. second edition or first edition] Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:21, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Most people have already noticed, but I'll close this thread by noting that George has cleaned up and uploaded Index:The Romance of Nature; or, The Flower-Seasons Illustrated.djvu for the project. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Last year when we had a poetry month Index:A Treasury of South African Poetry.djvu was going to be the second work. In the end we didn't need it. However, it looks like we will need a second work this year. I propose this again as, while we have quite a lot of South African works there is no literature amongst them and this will go some way to fill a gap. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:47, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

May 2013

 * Handbook of Birds of Eastern North America (1905, 7th ed., ca. 500pp) by Frank Chapman might be a good choice, if we're going to do natural history this month. I couldn't find any general book of birds when I looked around here, which was surprising.  The book I've selected has lots of color plates, black-and-white plates, as well as a number of line drawings in the text.  The only tricky bits are some of the special symbols (such as ♀and ♂), which we might load into the standard editing tools, should we choose this work.  The book went through many editions (one of which my grandmother had), but the seventh edition is by far the most downloaded from the Internet Archive.  With scientific works, a later edition is usually superior to an earlier one, unless a later and inferior author mangles it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:01, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * While I don't have a problem with the selection, I take issue with the archive selected. It was created in 2007 (both jp2.zips still show 2007), the source PDF was replaced in 2011, the black and white PDF is from 2010 and the DjVu is from 2010. In short, nothing matches the parent it was derived from anymore. Now this doesn't necessarily mean the DjVu is flawed or less than optimal - but it does indicate closer scrutiny should be applied in selecting an archive imo than just "it had the most downloads". ... and as a second point, the 1912 & 1916 Google Books copies of this book have straight "color" images - this selection has color images only to the degree allowed by the skewing added by the fake "tan" backgrounds applied post imaging to mimic old or yellowed pages. Personally, I'd like to see a better selection for use as the base source file for this work; otherwise, some other work might be a better choice overall. -- George Orwell III (talk) 03:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I take George's point. However the 7th edition is the last edition of the original version. The 1912 edition seems to be the first of the revised versions. At some stage we will want both versions. IA has a quite a few copies of the original version from 1st to 6th edition. The Revised Version linked to here is the most recently uploaded to IA. Why don't we go with this? That is, unless the 1916 edition is superior in some way (there's no copy of this on IA). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:07, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Fwiw...
 * 1916 Revised Edition Google Books (has many other ed. available)
 * 1912 Revised Edition 'best looking @ IA imho (has a fair number of other editions avail. too)
 * After reading most of the author's comments/front matter, the differences between the 1895 thru 1910 editions are fairly minor in scope (though the swing in the number of total pages makes wonder about that claim). The revised editions also are also pretty much the same - only the Introduction section at the start goes from 30 something pages in the "old" to ~110 pages in the Rrevised. Of course the copies with faux, faded-backgrounds per page degrade not only the text but the images as well. -- George Orwell III (talk) 05:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I've taken a look at the linked 1912 revised version. The formatting is far more complicated than the original version, and would be much too challenging to make a good PotM collaboration. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:59, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Then I'll shut-up now because I can't seem to wrap my head around how adding to what amounts to about the 14th or 15th online available copy between GooBoo & IA alone is of any benefit to anyone let alone en.WS (admittedly I've kept away from these selection processes for some time now). I guess busy work for sake of busy work is still better than the lack of group cohesion from month to month. Prost. -- George Orwell III (talk) 05:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I got pre-occupied by music and didn't get back to this and we're at the end of the month again. Because I'm used to the formatting of the 1912 version from floras I didn't see it has being difficult, but on reflection it probably is too complex for a PotM. I suggest as an alternative book on birds this book, which is a companion volume to the one we did on Mollusca in February 2012. (In the same series are volumes on mammalia, reptiles and fishes.) An initial random sampling of pages suggests that it is complete. Thoughts? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Please upload it. I think there is no disagreement as we have already done a book from the same series.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 18:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ and it's in the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:46, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

 * Balthasar Hubmaier: Leader of the Anabaptists (1905) 432pp

We need to discuss and settle on a biography for June. I have to say I'm not enthralled by Hbmaier, so offer a few of alternatives. That said, if people want Hbmaier, I won't object further. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Autobiography of Charles V (Emperor at the time of Henry VIII)
 * Autobiography of Henry Williams Blodgett (US Federal judge)
 * Autobiography of Giuseppe Garibaldi - this is vol 1 of 3.
 * Autobiography of Anthony Trollope
 * How about The Autobiography of a Super-Tramp (1908) by W. H. Davies, 318 pages. Or maybe The Journal of Sir Walter Scott, 639 pages. I must say, Blodgett's and Trollope's works look good to me. Clockery Fairfield (talk·contribs) 16:27, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Another suggestion, from the transcription project: Life of Tolstoy by Romain Rolland. Sincerely —Clockery Fairfield (talk·contribs) 09:20, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I was hoping to avoid Tolstoy given we have several biographies already. See Author:Leo Tolstoy. I'd rather we worked on someone we don't have anything for. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I wasn't too keen on Tolstoy myself, only that it was the only biography I could find on the transcription project. So how about Paul Kelver? A (semi)autobiographical novel by Jerome K. Jerome, 433 pages approx. But I don't know whether autobiographical novels are included in Biographies…? Sincerely —Clockery Fairfield (talk·contribs) 10:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Balthasar Hübmaier selected.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 17:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

 * Madagascar (1883) 100pp
 * Picturesque Russia and Greece (1886), b&w engravings, 160pp
 * Edinburgh : picturesque notes (1910) b&w engravings, 200pp though by Robert Louis Stevenson


 * SUPPORT —Maury (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Burma (1908) colour images, 130pp
 * Burma, painted and described (1905) 600pp incl. blanks (same author as above, more detail) nice colour, lots of images
 * Through atolls and islands in the great South Sea (1889) 380pp, scan a little faint, though the OCR looks fine. Illustrations though B&W.


 * None of these really jumps out at me as "great", though all have merit. I'd really like to see us do a work on India, or at least on one of the Indian provinces.  Would The Religion of the Kuvi-Konds: Their Customs and Folk-Lore (114 pp) fit under the geography topic?  The Khonds are a little-known people of southern India. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:17, 15 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with your point on Burma, painted and described (1905)and the two Japanese books but what is the end goal in all of this? Should we focus upon nations a bit closer to us and learn about the Americas and our allies or are we choosing books because they seem like romantic far away places for amusing and casual reading? What is the criteria? In reference to India, it has hundreds of religions which I feel sure you are aware of. —Maury (talk) 05:44, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * We had been trying to do geography, not culture, not folklore for this topic matter, and for that we have previously looked for something with good images, as it populates Commons, adds an extra element of interest (see previous years examples). Re areas closer to home. Whose home? Most of us don't live in the US, and we usually have enough American focused works so this is the point of the geography topic in an area where we don't have works, or not likely to get works. Allies? What? Whose? When? This is about books that are available and suggested. Anyone is able to make suggestions, and we choose something.  The whole purpose of POTM is to engender interest of the casual proofreader, popping past and enough to get them to poke their head in, and hopefully stay. — billinghurst  sDrewth  09:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

"Physical Geography" —Maury (talk) 01:09, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Billinghurst, in reference to illustrations I have been preaching and trying to promote them for a long while now. In reference to Allies I refer to the Americas including Canada, and nations of middle and south America. Those are close to the USA and the USA has a huge immigration of peoples from all over Latin America. Thus the book Mexico as it is and was completed by several of us and illustrated which became a Featured Text. I also refer to Great Britain and all of her former colonies such as Australia, New Zealand, and perhaps even India. I would also include France. These are all far away from my home in the USA. I also mentioned the two very nice books on Japan. As for geography and culture they are not exactly the same thing as culture is often determined by geography. MarkLSteadman cites two "geographical" works below which include culture and they both are illustrated. EncycloPetey I think that "You" refers to me, so in reply I state that pure geography has nothing to do with people whether they are living or dead or never existed. It includes the study of volcanoes, undersea earthquakes, tectonic plate movements and likewise topics. Culture has it's own area of science which is why we have and use the word "culture". I am not trying to debate you fellows. I asked my question to see what others thought because I didn't know and would not assume to know what others think. Kind regards to some of the best people I have ever met on Internet and all of us with a common interest in learning and books. —Maury (talk) 18:30, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I meant billinghurst, but what you describe as geography is actually geology. Geography does include the subfield of physical geography (erosion, rivers, topography, orogeny, etc.) but it also includes much, much more, such as population science, culture, urban planning, geomatics, and a host of other topics.  You might want to read the Wikipedia article which, although a bit sparse, does a fair job of presenting the many aspects of geography. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * You make a distinction between geography and culture that I have not previously seen. As quoted on Wikipedia, geography is "the science that studies the lands, the features, the inhabitants, and the phenomena of the Earth". [emphasis added] And, Maury, yes I am aware that India has many religions, of which we cover virtually zero. --EncycloPetey (talk) 10:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The works that we've chosen in the past to fill in gaps in our Geography coverage have been broadly focused on an area of the world. The works cover physical geography along with the inhabitants and their cultures. It is these broader works that each year generate the most interest and we have completed the first work in less than a week in both of the last two years. A more narrowly focused work like the one on the Khonds (which overlaps with anthropology for me) doesn't seem to generate the same level of interest. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:23, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that reply. I've some idea at this point what makes a "good" or "bad" choice, but I don't have the experience that some others do. What do you think about a longer volume, such as the one Mark has suggested below on India and Indo-China?  It's volume VIII of a larger work, so I wonder about the suitability a work that is both lengthy and at the same time part of a much larger work, even though I do like the topic.  For the record, both of his suggestions do appeal to me. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:27, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * One advantage of the regional break-up of the Reclus is that I would suspect that each volume would still be quite suitable on its own, although at the same time benefiting from the other volumes if they are ever completed (since they have a common author/approach). MarkLSteadman (talk) 22:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Two other, longer possiblities are:


 * A volume from Elisee Reclus's Universal Geography (e.g. India) (1876-1894) 700p
 * The Lands of Silence: A history of Arctic and Antarctic exploration] (1921) 600p MarkLSteadman (talk) 11:55, 16 December 2012 (UTC)


 * One last suggestion if the Reclus is deemed unsuitable: Younghusband's Kashmir. MarkLSteadman (talk) 23:03, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Matthew Fontaine Maury's Geographical Series

Maury's new elements of Geography for primary and intermediate classes / by M. F. Maury.

http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/010759064

Author: Maury, Matthew Fontaine, 1806-1873.

Language: English

New York : American Book Co., copyright 1907.

Subjects: Geography > Textbooks.

[ b/w & Color images of people and places —Maury (talk) 03:36, 12 January 2013 (UTC) ]

—Maury (talk) 20:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Attempt to distill above discussion into a few options
We have several years' worth of suggestions here and need to narrow down for this year. I've listed here those that have interest by more than one editor. Please indicate your preferences below. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Edinburgh : picturesque notes (1910) b&w engravings, 200pp
 * Support. —Clockery Fairfield (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Kathleen.wright5 (talk) 11:46, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Burma, painted and described (1905) 600pp incl. blanks
 * Support Erasmo Barresi (talk) 10:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. —Clockery Fairfield (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Kathleen.wright5 (talk) 11:51, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Elisée Reclus's Universal Geography vol. 8 India (1876-1894) 700p
 * Support Erasmo Barresi (talk) 10:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Kathleen.wright5 (talk) 11:56, 26 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The Lands of Silence: A history of Arctic and Antarctic exploration (1921) 600p
 * Support Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Erasmo Barresi (talk) 10:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Maury's New Elements of Geography for Primary and Intermediate Classes (1907) 138p. (transcription project)
 * Support Erasmo Barresi (talk) 10:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. —Clockery Fairfield (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Kathleen.wright5 (talk) 12:04, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

"Maury's New Elements of Geography for Primary and Intermediate Classes" and "Burma, painted and described" selected. Let's start with Maury's one, which has already been uploaded.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 13:11, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

 * Earlier in another forum there was a request for more works by women. I have found Author:Rosa Campbell Praed an early Australian colonial writer Her large bibliography covered multiple genres, and books for children as well as adults. She has been described as the first Australian novelist to achieve a significant international reputation (wikipedia). archive.org author search with a variety of works and sizes.  Would be worth considering. — billinghurst  sDrewth 
 * Marriage as a trade (1909 American edition) by Cicely Hamilton cited as "trade aspect of marriage; i.e., wifehood and motherhood considered as a means of livelihood for women the business of getting or gaining a partner, and the business of marriage partnership, without reference to the paramount claims of love, or without considering love at all." 280pp, wouldn't take the whole month as it is a smaller in size. — billinghurst  sDrewth  07:35, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ as the first work. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:36, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Added the index page - DutchTreat (talk) 11:35, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

A couple of shorter suggestions:
 * I'd love to see us do The Adventures of David Simple (1744) by Sarah Fielding, particularly since we don't have any of her works, but I can't find a clean copy. n.b.: It was published in more than one volume. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:40, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I found a scan from the Internet Archive and uploaded to the Commons: transcription for edition from 1904- DutchTreat (talk) 18:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * But that's a 1904 edition, and the work was published in the 1700s. Reprinted works from around that time tend to be heavily edited and altered from the original, so I wouldn't consider a 1904 edition to be useful.  And although it is indeed a scan of the work, it is not a clean copy.  It appears to be a mish-mash cobbled together from at least two different scans (which is why the page scans are different sizes and colors), and whoever assembled the comleted file got left- and right-hand pages mixed up sometimes.  That's why I said I couldn't find a clean copy.  Bad copies yes, but a good clean one, no. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:50, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I propose the book Isabella d'Este, marchioness of Mantua, 1474-1539 volume 1 and volume 2 by Julia Mary Cartwright Ady. A female art critic with no works on the site. She wrote about a female patroness of Renaissance arts. - DutchTreat (talk) 19:04, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The Private Correspondence of Jane, Lady Cornwallis 1613–1644 looks to be an interesting work.
 * Diaries of court ladies of old Japan . Includes 2 diaries from the late 10th/early 11th centuries, with some nice woodcuts (two in colour). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:40, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Another work for the month could be Rilla of Ingleside by Lucy Maud Montgomery, which has 392 pages and I've already uploaded to Commons. See File:Rilla of Ingleside.djvu. Fortunately, it happens to be a first-edition scan. However, it doesn't seem to have any pictures, apart from the frontispiece.  —Clockery Fairfeld  (talk) 12:48, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've gone with the Japanese diaries book, because I thought it best to stay with non-fiction. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

September 2013
We're scheduled to do a Requested Text this month, so I'm going to start a list of things that look interesting in some way. Feel free to add to the list. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:38, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * The First voyage round the world, by Magellan (1874) - few images, some lengthy footnotes, but looks manageable. A key work translated from the Italian by Pigafetta, who used contemporary sources.
 * Already done. See Index:First Voyage Round the World.djvu. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:01, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, it appears to be mostly transcribed, but it's not done. See The First Voyage Round the World. --EncycloPetey (talk) 08:03, 24 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Precious stones considered in their scientific and artistic relations. With a catalogue of the Townshend collection (1905) - quite a few line diagrams, no footnotes, but a fair number of tables, and the catalogue at the back has a some tricky formatting (albeit repetitive, so it could be picked up by example).
 * I suggest that we start with Precious Stones, (it's ca. 130 pp.) and then move to cleaning up and completing First Voyage. If we need a third work we can grab another of the shorter ones (e.g. The Anaesthetic Revelation and the Gist of Philosophy. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:21, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Handbook of Precious Stones.djvu is uploaded to Commons if it's decided we're going with it. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:23, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Where did you get "Handbook of" in the title? Both the cover of the volume and the title page call it "Precious Stones", without the "Handbook" part. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh. Umm. Ah. That was the title of the first edition (1882). I must have read the preface (djvu /11) immediately before importing to Commons. We'll change it before we put it back into circulation in the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:49, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * UGH! "Precious Stones" indeed. The book is ugly with all text, a few tables, and a few diagrams showing the geometric patterns of "precious stones". A book about precious stones should have some color images showing why such stones are considered by people to be so "precious". Black and white diagrams do not cover the beauty of precious stones. I love the idea and once collected a fair number of precious stones over the dollar bill. I am not entirely new to the beauty of precious stones and how they are set into an ornate ring, necklace, &c. I suppose it is better than nothing but hopefully we may someday find a book worthy of such a title. —Maury (talk) 21:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, but it's this particular work that has been referenced on wikipedia and that has been requested on here. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:42, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * So not only are 2 pages missing (now patched with place-holders to enable what I thought was the start of the Monthly project according to our "news" page) but the File: & Index: titles are wrong to boot? Isn't this why we go 15 rounds with folks about the bang telling us to look on the Index: talk page for just such information? Anyway, I'll properly swap the correct pages in sometime soon (this week) but fwiw, Proofing can start; all the rest of the pages seem to be there too. -- George Orwell III (talk) 02:18, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not particularly worried by the slightly incorrect title of the file/index. By "change it" I mean that the title field on the Index page will be changed so that the transclusions are to the right title. We often have Index pages with different titles to the transcluded work. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:42, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The point was I could have changed it to better reflect the "specifics" (1893, 1st ed. 111 pp. / 1905, 2nd ed. 135 pp / 1913 - reprint 2nd edition / 1924, 3rd ed. and so on) given the opportunity if I was going to replace the original anyway, but if we don't care about stuff like that then I sure won't speak up about when I see this happen again. Sorry for the interuption folks. -- George Orwell III (talk) 07:42, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Wel, some people might not care, but I do. I care and also appreciate the work you do to "get it right" at the start, so that issues don't have to be redone later.  I wish more people took the care to select suitable file names, so that we wouldn't continue to have some of the problems I find in names of older files. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

October 2013
I think October begins the fiscal year in the US. Why not something on economics. I have just uploaded and added images to Stabilizing the Dollar (1920). It reads well. There are about 12 tables, 9 TOC pages, 9 index pages... but mostly text, and not very many footnotes. Not too daunting; something for everyone (except poetry). Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:33, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Topic matter itself doesn't stimulate. To encourage me, I would want the work to be a seminal work, or by a prominent author, or produce something that highlights something.  Part of a PotM is about enticing people into the system. — billinghurst  sDrewth  03:56, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that economics would be an interesting topic, I'm just not sure what type of book would be good. J.S. Mill's Principles of Political Economy and Alfred Marshall's Principles of Economics would be the standard, influential textbooks of economics. There are also the works of Ricardo, which with Smith, form the basis of Anglo-American classical economics, and the French writers Say and Bastiat. There were also many economists who wrote about economic history in the historical schools: Arnold Toynbee, William Ashley, Friedrich List. MarkLSteadman (talk) 04:58, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I think economics/fiscal policy would be good choice for that same October-ish period for no other reason other than it will be mainstream-media-topical in one form or another here in the U.S. The possibilities of drawing in new users by highlighting historical works contrasting the current fiscal policies (such as the one Londonjackbooks first mentions) could be optimal given the timing of the start of the new fiscal year here. I'm sure there are many other works in this area that would be considered far superior to the one first presented by LJB but I don't see how something like that would translate both into new interest and new contributors at the same time. -- George Orwell III (talk) 05:10, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Currently works by Smith, Ricardo, Malthus, Mill are available in full HTML format on Web. There is no author page of Alfred Marshall yet on wikisource however his works are available on Web. My search of influential economists with no works available on internet returns Francis Ysidro Edgeworth whose Vol III of Papers Relating To Political Economy might be a good option for proofreading. For American economists the best options would be works by Francis Amasa Walker and Irving Fisher. Solomon7968 (talk) 15:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

I am suggesting The Economic History of India Under Early British Rule by Romesh Chunder Dutt. It is the only public domain book on Economic History of India. Solomon7968 (talk) 14:48, 8 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Sticking with the theme about the sure-to-materialize "debate" over the U.S. fiscal situation by October's start but expanding it a bit in hopes it will rope some radicals in at the same time, I propose Why the capitalist? A refutation of the doctrines prevailing in conventional political economy (Haller, 1914, pp 294 - verified). Not too technical nor graphic/table intensive at all - imo - just right for the typical "fundamentalist" on either the left or the right. -- George Orwell III (talk) 16:52, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

This goes live tomorrow; do we have a chosen text yet? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 21:22, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've unilaterally chosen the first suggestion because (1) there was no consensus on any particular work, (2) it is already here and ready to go, and (3) it seemed topical given today's shutdown and consequent problems with the dollar. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 18:20, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

November 2013

 * Validation month, no nominations required

December 2013
If football counts as a game, perhaps Association Football and How to Play It (1908). The Football Association in England is 150 years old this year. We also don't have much on the subject at the moment. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 01:24, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. That's interesting, as I had already downloaded the DjVu for that book some time ago... intending to work on it at some time. Sounds like a good choice, though it might not last the whole month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support, for all of the reasons above, plus it's a great book overall. Clockery Fairfield (talk·contribs) 15:24, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

How to Play Chess as suggested by LJB back in January was the trigger to make this a games month. I can't download this as I'm not in the US. Could someone please port it into IA for djvu derivation? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:42, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't get to that one either. Association Football is complete but there is nothing to easily replace it.  Most of the chess books I can find include a lot of diagrams (which, personally, I don't have time to extract at the moment). Does anyone have an idea for a replacement? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 16:10, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I can perhaps "get to" a book others may not be able to get. But does the book have to be about games? Aren't there enough games throughout the year, especially e-games, and more e-Games around Christmas? I once loved Chess but I don't want to read more about it unless it is Through the Looking-Glass and what Alice found there. Why not a book that is about the origins of CHRISTmas? There is at least one that I am somewhat familiar with and it's about learning and not more playing more day-by-day & year-by-year games. (Song: "Born in the USA" —Maury (talk) 16:33, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I downloaded the Chess book it it is only about 53 pages in length, lees than that when I edit the Google material out of it. -53 pages wouldn't be too boring although boring it remains. The books starts with an ad on Billiards which I much prefer having grown up near University of Virginia pool hall when the dress code for students was coat and tie. Professionals like Tommy Pappas and Jimmy the Greek would come in before UVA started classes and "shark" the wealthy students. Us locals were taught pool shooting by those pros but we were required to stop and watch as agreed on. I learned pool very well and used it in the U S Navy as the best on our ship opposing the best on any other ship when in port -- Newport Rhode Island. Bets were placed and money exchanged hands for my shipmates. Those were good days. —Maury (talk) 16:51, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I have edited out the word Google on every page of the Chess Book cited by Beeswaxcandle in the text above. This .PDF can be uploaded to Ia now. I have uploaded there a couple of times in the not so distant past and BEEZ, I got that NZ Flowers book for you from HathiTrust that has beautiful color illustrations. This Chess Book is now 37 pages in length and the last pages are all advertisements for unique items such as:

HENRY A. MURTON, Manufacturer of India Rubber and Oilskin Clothing of every description. Waterproofs for present season, guaranteed proof. Tweed Coats, Cloaks, Wraps, for Tourists, Travellers, Walking, Riding, &c. Driving Coats and Capes. Riding Coats and Leggings. Storm Coats. Fishing Coats. Army and Regulation Cloaks and Coats. Coachmen's Driving Coats. The "Poncho" Bicycle Capes and jackets. Leggings, Overalls, Storm Hats and Caps, &c. 87 & 89, Grey Street, 20, 22 & 24, Market Street, NEWCASTLE-ON-TYNE. Branch Stores, 109, High St., SUNDERLAND.

Another

Murton's New Stores.

BILLIARD TABLES.

Full size, 1 2 feet x 6 feet, Mahogany Billiard Tables, from £+5·

Murton's Special No. 1 Billiard Table, solid mahogany, 1 2 feet x 6 feet, 12 cues, thick Bangor slates, fast cushions, with complete fittings for Billiards, 57 guineas.

Murton's No. 2 and 3 Billiard Tables, 1 2 feet X 6 feet, superior selected mahogany, extra thick slates, new low cushions and complete fittings for Billiards, 66 and 7 8 guineas.

Murton's No. 4 Club Table, special value, fine figured wood, thick bolted slate bed, improved fast low cushions (guaranteed not to get hard), best West of England cloth and complete fittings for ' Billiards-7 5 guineas.

Testimonials from leading players, Clubs and Institutes throughout the North of England.

—Maury (talk) 17:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * How about ? Howard Staunton organised the first international chess tournament in 1851, and this book appears to be the only primary source of the tournament and it is not transcribed anywhere else on internet. Solomon7968 (talk) 17:30, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * How many pages does that book have Soloman7968 and how many are illustrations? AND we could use both of these books. —Maury (talk) 17:40, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

BILLIARDS

http://books.google.com/books/about/The_billiard_book.html?id=tjtNAAAAcAAJ

Rawdon Crawley (pseud. van George Frederick Pardon.) Longmans, Green, 1866 - Sports & Recreation - 261 pages

THE BILLIARD BOOK.

BY CAPTAIN CRAWLEY

WITH NUMEROU8  ILLUSTRATIVE  DIAGRAMS.

L O N D O N: LONGMANS, GREEN, AND CO.

1866.

—Maury (talk) 18:08, 8 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I've selected Index:Indoor and Outdoor Gymnastic Games.djvu until the Chess book becomes available on IA. Thanks for doing that Maury. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

January 2014
Quirky short works
 * Why the shoe pinches : a contribution to applied anatomy ✅
 * On the pollution of the rivers of the kingdom : the enormous magnitude of the evil, and the urgent necessity in the interest of the public health & the fisheries for its suppression by immediate legislative enactment ✅
 * Weather facts and predictions ✅
 * Navvies and their needs ✅
 * Hawarden Castle ✅
 * The goddesses in congress at Olympus-on-Spree layout too complex for PotM
 * Letter to young girls (Ruskin) ✅
 * Remarks on some late decisions respecting the colonial church ✅
 * Agricultural progress : drainage


 * The Book of the Homeless
 * FFS, It's not under copyright! Why is this myth continuing to propagate?! Hesperian 23:32, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It does still say so in the Pagespace of the book itself. Inaccurately, but that is the reason why someone might think so. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 23:48, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. It no longer says so. Hesperian 01:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * You are welcome that it was pointed out by me 1st. —Maury (talk) 02:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Maury. Hesperian 03:50, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

As we've almost done all of the selected ones above, I've uploaded the following so that they can be added in (in any order) as we work through them (struck out when moved into use):
 * Index:Some New Philosophical Views.djvu, Index:Canterbury Papers.djvu, Index:Reform of Parliamentary Procedure.djvu, Index:The Egyptian Difficulty and the First Step out of it.djvu, Index:The Jubilee, or what I heard and saw in London.djvu, Index:Address to the Mary Adelaide Nurses.djvu, Index:Sketches of the History of the Church of Scotland.djvu, Index:Americanisation - a letter to John Stuart Mill.djvu , Index:Who are Insulting the Working Classes?.djvu Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:48, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * striking those that are validated, though from what I see they are all at least proofread though need to be transcluded to main ns. There are enough there to add in for validation, though at the current rate, you had better be quick. I might see if I can grab something with a little more meat to keep the the fingers busy for longer. — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Another ten: Index:Vocal Speech for the Dumb.djvu, Index:University Reform - Two Papers.djvu, Index:A Sketch of the Characters of Sir John Patteson and Sir John Coleridge.djvu, Index:A Plea for the Middle Classes.djvu, Index:The organisation of the Royal Naval Artillery Volunteers explained.djvu, Index:Notes on the Present and Future of the Archaeological Collections of the University of Oxford.djvu, Index:Mr J. S. Mill on Personal Representation.djvu, Index:The Extravagent Expenditure of the London School Board.djvu, Index:The Ethics of Urban Leaseholds.djvu, Index:Agricultural Progress - Drainage.djvu Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * What counts a short?ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:47, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * In this context, I'm looking at < 100 pp. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Can I request generation of a report listing all works in the 20-100 page range that haven't been proofread?ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Best thing to do there is to ask Hesperian to update his list at User:Hesperian/Indices and then take the desired subset from there. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:57, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I heard that! Done. Hesperian 07:32, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Another set of pamphlets: Index:The Coffee Publichouse.djvu, Index:Science the handmaid of religion.djvu, Index:The truth about the Transvaal.djvu, Index:Nurses for the sick.djvu, Index:Preaching the Gospel to the working classes impossible under the pew system.djvu, Index:A letter on pauperism and crime.djvu, Index:Do Away with Deans.djvu, Index:Three introductory lectures on the study of ecclesiastical history.djvu, Index:Emigration - a paper read at the Burdett Hall, Limehouse.djvu, Index:Handbook of maritime rights.djvu, Index:Central African Mission.djvu, Index:The first report, etc., of the Lichfield Society.djvu, Index:Correspondence between the Warden of St Columba's College and the Primate of Armagh.djvu, Index:The Agricultural Children Act, 1873, and the Agricultural Gangs Act, 1867.djvu Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Validated
 * 1) Some New Philosophical Views (1881) by Alexander Strahan
 * 2) Reform of Parliamentary Procedure (1882) by the National Union of Conservative & Constitutional Associations
 * 3) The Egyptian Difficulty and the First Step out of it (1884) by Anonymous
 * 4) The Jubilee, or what I heard and saw in London (1852) by Henry Caswall
 * 5) Americanisation - a letter to John Stuart Mill (1866) by anonymous
 * 6) Who are Insulting the Working Classes? (1879) by a working man
 * 7) Weather Facts and Predictions - 3rd edition (1877) by George Frederick Chambers
 * 8) Navvies and Their Needs (1878) by L. M. Evans
 * 9) Why the Shoe Pinches (1861) by Georg Hermann von Meyer trans. John Stirling Craig
 * 10) Hawarden Castle (1870) by George Thomas Clark
 * 11) Letter to Young Girls (Ruskin) (1876) by John Ruskin
 * 12) Remarks on Some Late Decisions Respecting the Colonial Church (1868) by Mountague Bernard
 * 13) Canterbury Papers (1850) by Association for Founding the Settlement of Canterbury in New Zealand
 * 14) On the Pollution of the Rivers of the Kingdom (1868) by Fisheries Preservation Society
 * 15) A Sketch of the Characters of Sir John Patteson and Sir John Coleridge (1877) by S. H. W.
 * 16) Vocal Speech for the Dumb (1877) by Benjamin St. John Ackers
 * 17) Notes on the Present and Future of the Archaeological Collections of the University of Oxford (1881) by Greville John Chester
 * 18) A Plea for the Middle Classes (1848) by anonymous
 * 19) Agricultural Progress - Drainage (1868) by James Sanderson
 * 20) The organisation of the Royal Naval Artillery Volunteers explained (1874) by Thomas Brassey
 * 21) The Ethics of Urban Leaseholds (1879) by John T. Emmett
 * 22) Address to the Mary Adelaide Nurses (1883) by Lady Henry Scott
 * 23) The Extravagent Expenditure of the London School Board (1876)
 * 24) Science the Handmaid of Religion (1877) by J J Coxhead
 * 25) University Reform - Two Papers (1876) by John Richard Magrath
 * 26) The Coffee Publichouse (1878) by The Coffee Publichouse Association
 * 27) The Truth About the Transvaal (1881) by Lord Brabourne
 * 28) A Letter on Pauperism and Crime (1869) by a guardian of the poor
 * 29) Do Away with Deans (1869) by Edward Stuart
 * 30) Nurses for the Sick (1861) by Louisa Twining
 * 31) The First Report of the Lichfield Society (1842) by The Lichfield Society
 * 32) Preaching the Gospel to the working classes impossible under the pew system (1858) by John William Henry Molyneux
 * 33) Emigration — a paper read at the Burdett Hall, Limehouse (1868) by Charles Bernard Gibson
 * 34) Mr J. S. Mill on Personal Representation (1884) by John Stuart Mill
 * 35) Sketches of the History of the Church of Scotland (1882) by Arthur Ranken
 * 36) The Agricultural Children Act, 1873, and the Agricultural Gangs Act, 1867 (1873) by George Frederick Chambers
 * 37) Central African Mission - its Past and Present Prospects (1873) by Edward Steere
 * 38) Handbook of Maritime Rights (1876) by Henry Alexander Munro-Butler-Johnstone

Proofread

February 2014
The Voyage Out is Virginia Woolf's first novel. We don't have it yet. The copy linked is the first American edition (1920), because I could not find a copy of the first UK printing (1915, Duckworth). --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:21, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Question: Why does Google mess up books like the one shown above by EncycloPetey? Page 35 is ruined. The pages are perhaps too large because Google widens and elongates each page. One page is dark and the next page is light. This is often done by Google. Does that useless width which looks like it needs to be cropped make a difference in derivative works from Internet Archives? The book would make a good addition for our library (as will those listed below). —Maury (talk) 20:18, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅ as the first work for Feb. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:43, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

A few suggestions of important novels we're missing: Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:27, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The Ragged Trousered Philathropists, Robert Tressall
 * The House of Mirth, Edith Wharton
 * Hunger, Knut Hamsun (translated)
 * Oblomov, Ivan Goncharov (translated)


 * Also Waverley (1814), the first novel by Walter Scott and considered the first historical novel in the Western tradition. (My IA connection went out while looking for a copy). --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Can't help butting in even though I'm a non-participant. If you're looking for important works that we don't have, you can't go past Boswell's Life of Johnson, regarded by many as the finest biography ever written in English. Hesperian 09:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

March 2014
Early Chinese Jades (1923), a book of carved jade art from early China, with many plates (some in color). We need more books on the arts, especially painting, drawing, and sculpture. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, not PD. Published 1923 in UK (and not in US), author died 1949 so not PD in UK until 2019. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:43, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, that's a real shame, but glad we caught that before it went up. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

A couple of other possibilities:
 * Embroidery and Fancy Work
 * Character of Renaissance Architecture
 * A Selection of Chinese Carvings


 * I like Embroidery and Fancy Work. The book is late Victorian, so the designs are a bit dated, but it covers a wide range of artistic forms, and there are still many people actively interested in Victoriana. I checked a number of pages, and the text looks clean. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. ✅ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)


 * At the rate Embroidery &co. is progressing, we may need another selection. While I like the images in Chainese Carvings, it is a gallery catalogue of items for sale and has almost no text. I'm not sure it would make an effective collaborative work (though an individual or two might find the 58-page catalogue a good project). If we need to go to a second work then, I recommend Renaissance Architecture. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:35, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Another suggestion: Handbook of sculpture, ancient and modern. It's an introductory text about sculpture, its history, the different schools, etc. I found it rather easy to read, the text is large, and there's not too many images or complex structures. There are some greek words scattered throughout, since the history of sculpture does go back to ancient Greece, but these are minimal as well. Mukkakukaku (talk) 01:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Embroidery has been completed. Any chance of another work being put up? I've set the template to overflow in any case. —Clockery Fairfeld [t·c] 12:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Renaissance Architecture selected because it doesn't have a Google page. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

April 2014
Suggestions
 * The spirit of the Nation (1843) important work (at the time) in Ireland as part of the Nation newspaper of Duffy. 180pp
 * Pieces People ask for (1909 3rd edition) would give a humorous contrast to the above as a follow-up.

May 2014
Theme:Geography (little known area)

Suggestions:
 * Cannibal-land: Adventures with a Camera in the New Hebrides (1922) (alternative scan)
 * A year in the New Hebrides, Loyalty Islands, and New Caledonia (1873)
 * Livingstone's Africa (1872) by David Livingston; longer book, though could be considered iconic work


 * I have only looked at the second one (by Campbell), and found that it's not much on geography. It's sort of a travelogue of missionary work among the natives with some local natural history and such thrown in from time to time. Not too keen on it at a PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:51, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
 * All three appear to be travelogues, although previous years appear to count travel writing as close enough. I have no strong preference in this selection, although I admit I'm amused by the blatancy of "Cannibal-land" as a title.  Something needs to go live tomorrow, however. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:12, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Since we need something of the earth on my wedding anniversary ("mayday-mayday",} why not consider a sub-division of geography? I offer this as a mere suggestion: On enWikisource we already have a book _sitting untouched since about 2009_ that has text in terrible shape (loaded in by a bot with text extracted). This work is also on Google as well as volumes 1 and 2 being on HathiTrust. This is illustrated mostly with b/w images but also some color images. I refer to  "Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857: The First Principles of Observational Seismology as Developed in the Report to the Royal Society of London of the Expedition Made by Command of the Society Into the Interior of the Kingdom of Naples, to Investigate the Circumstances of the Great Earthquake of December 1857" —Maury (talk) 16:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * The "Great Neapolitan Earthquake &c." is not really a good choice for PotM. Look at Page:Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857.djvu/111, for example, which is locaded with difficult-to-format mathematical formulas. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:50, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I think there are but two pages like that in which case I would use an image. We also do have people here who like puzzle pages like that - not me. But we need something and when I saw Adam's statement about needing something by tomorrow (May 1st) I offered what I was already aware of. I looked at the travelogue books but I don't care for the Cannibal book that Adam mentioned. The images are also very difficult. Discard a good book (The "Great Neapolitan Earthquake &c.")for two or three pages of difficulty? At least it isn't a travelogue and it is about the earth and its movements and changes "Mother Nature" brings to many nations as opposed to someone's wanderings. It also is not all about the past because these still happen. But then I recently watched Pompeii and hear of earthquakes on television ref California, Mexico, and many others and I lived through one in the state of Washington that was shown on CNN that scared me since I knew not what to do. There is no where to run. The ground below me was like a liquid and more difficult to stand than being on a ship in a storm in blue water at sea. In Washington I was introduced to the bridge that replaced the swing bridge called "Galloping Gerdie" now called Tacoma Narrows Bridge". I would much rather be safe at sea on my favorite ship where we weathered many fierce storms. We need to learn about these machines of nature and what to do when they hit as with many tornadoes hitting nearby states fiercely this week. Where we live can become dangerous in a split second even if it has "never happened before" so we had best learn what to do ind especially as we move to or through new places to us. I presently live in an area called "Hurricane Alley" and knew little about what to do when I came here. We, and others had best learn or suffer the consequences. I don't know about land movements in Australia or New Zealand but I do know about situations in the USA including being caught in a flash flood somewhere in Nevada as water from nowhere started coming UP through cracks in the land when there was no rain coming down or when I watched as a river worked its way totally underground -- ground with deep cracks with the river, once flowing fast, totally disappeared below the ground. We need to learn about the Earth and how it functions more so that work on travelogues of any sort. I an not arguing I am just suggesting what I think is important to know and what is useful for us today. Has anyone here seen the recent news on mother nature's weather machines? -- Look at WikiPedia's front page and the article, April 27–30, 2014 tornado outbreak Kind regards, —Maury (talk) 03:12, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * It isn't just two pages, there are technical symbols and formulae throughout much of the book. The vocabulary is also highly technical, which means that proofreaders will have a hard time with it. It is a valuable book certainly, just not a good choice for a general community collaboration effort. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:20, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

What about Lake Ngami, or, Explorations and discoveries during four years' wanderings in the wilds of southwestern Africa (1861)?


 * I admit to not having looked at the New Hebrides' books in detail and hadn't realised that they weren't really what I hoped. I'm happy with the Lake Ngami book. 07:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

The selected work is progressing quite rapidly. In case we need another this month, I am starting a list of possibilities, focusing on Borneo and Brunei, since that nation is much in the news of late. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:16, 2 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Seventeen years among the Sea Dyaks of Borneo (1911) - comparable to our current PotM.
 * British Borneo: sketches of Brunai, Sarawak, Labuan, and North Borneo (1891) - less than 200 pages, no illos.
 * The physical features and geology of Borneo (1892?) - very short but useful

June 2014
Theme: Natural History

Suggestions:
 * The Botany of the Antarctic Voyage of H.M. discovery ships Erebus and Terror in the years 1839–1843 by Joseph Dalton Hooker (1844). While this would be a challenging work, it would also be a valuable addition to our collection of botanical works. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:56, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I would go with this if we can swap the May and June selections. I am trained as a botanist, and would gladly help out a lot on this important work, but will not have the time in May. My schedule in June is much, much freer than this month or next. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:18, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with EncycloPetey's request/suggestion above. It is always good to have someone we know here who loves the topic and can spare the time and that book is lengthy. So, can we switch months on that book or not and if not then why not? Switch to geography, geology, or gemstones. —Maury (talk) 01:30, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course we can swap. I too should have a little more time in June than the craziness that is life this month. Swap done. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

July 2014
Theme: World War 1

For consideration
 * Secrets of Crewe house : the story of a famous campaign (1921) by Campbell Stuart Subject: Great Britain. Dept. of Propaganda in Enemy Countries; Propaganda, British; has portrait photos and illustrations (~50), good quality scan, though yellowing; 340pp {Note: Work itself would need to be hosted locally, some illustrations would be eligible for Commons]


 * The British Black Book (1915) by Rudolf Cronau. German anti-British propaganda aimed at keeping the US out of WWI (or, at least, not on the side of the Allies).  Short, about 140pp, with a one illustration and a few typographic ornaments. I placed a portion of the Black Book here on WS but it didn't have that title. It was something like England, a Destroyer of Nations. —Maury (talk) 04:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The tunnellers of Holzminden (1920) by Hugh George Edmund Durnford. The story of the Great Escape of World War I, as told by one of its participants. 192pp (including 4 diagrams), plus 14 plates. Apart from the occasional umlaut, there is no tricky formatting. PD in the US due to age, but I don’t know if it’s PD in the UK, as I have been unable to find a d.o.d (or d.o.b.) for the author. — Iain Bell (talk) 10:15, 24 March 2014 (UTC) (struck out by Iain Bell (talk) 11:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC))
 * I did some searching for this author previously, and died in 1965. Link on the talk page to a family tree. If we were to do this work we would need to host it on enWS, rather than Commons. That said, are we pushing our friendship levels to have people from Britain/Australia/Canada editing a work that is seemingly still under copyright outside of the US. — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:29, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You have a point, so I have struck out that suggestion. Mind you, it will be eligible for Wikilivres in a couple of years... — Iain Bell (talk) 11:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC)


 * A diagrammatic filler? [//archive.org/details/warshipsatglance00jane Warships at a glance] (1914) by Frederick Thomas Jane (the renowned of Jane's books]

At the current rate of consumption, we're going to need a second book fairly soon. A couple of possibilities:
 * The Elements of the Great War (1915) by Hilaire Belloc
 * Russia and the Great War (1915) by Gregor Alexinsky
 * Great Speeches of the War (1915)


 * Re: the first choice (Elements), I'm not sure how valuable a book published in 1915 would be towards analysis of the War. In any case, it reads rather simplistically. The second (Russia) looks quite labor intensive; a 350 page book about Russia in the War that was published in 1915, and well prior to the October Revolution, seems less likely to be useful. The third choice is the one of these I favor most, although it covers mostly British speeches. --EncycloPetey (talk) 09:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

August 2014
Theme: Female Author

Suggestions: -- Mukkakukaku (talk) 07:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Louisa May Alcott, A Garland for Girls (1888). -- Easy to read, large text, decent OCR (even if all the quotation marks came out as &amp;quot;).
 * Louisa May Alcott, Moods (1864)
 * Jane G. Austin, Betty Alden (1891)
 * Jane G. Austin, David Alden's Daughter (1892)
 * Jane G. Austin, It Never Did Run Smooth (1892) -- Short.
 * Jane G. Austin, A Nameless Nobleman (1881)
 * Jane G. Austin, Outpost (1866, 1884 ed.)
 * Jane G. Austin, Standish of Standish (1891)
 * Amelia E. Barr, Between Two Loves (1889 ed.)


 * Out of Due Time (1906) by Josephine Ward (Mrs. Wilfrid Ward). Mrs. Ward "was a member of England's leading Roman Catholic family and wife of the Catholic author, Wilfrid Ward."  The novel "reflects the impact of religious and theological controversy [and] the unfolding crisis of Roman Catholic Modernism." (Abstracts: Amer. Acad. of Religion Society of Biblical Literature 1992, p. 113.)  Londonjackbooks (talk) 23:42, 24 February 2014 (UTC)


 * There are a number of works by Caroline Norton both fiction and political that would add value, especially the political dealing with women's legal rights. — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Or a work about Norton by a female author Jane Grey Perkins (need to track down her details.) — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:05, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Might this be useful re. Perkins? I am pretty sure this is the right person, and the bio. is fairly detailed. AuFCL (talk) 21:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Constance Frederica Gordon Cumming [//archive.org/details/ladyscruiseinfre00gord A Lady's Cruise in a French Man-of-War] (1882) described in her 1924 obit as "...It was in 1877, while in Fiji, that she was offered the opportunity of a voyage in the Pacific in a French man-of-war, visiting Tahiti, Tonga, Samoa, and other groups, finishing up in California. The result was one of her most interesting narratives ..."


 * Sarah Fielding, The Adventures of David Simple (orig. publ. 1744); we don't have anything by this author. --EncycloPetey (talk) 07:43, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * We haven't yet chosen a work for August. I haven't been part of this discussion, so I'd rather not choose one, but if someone would like to, we can update the main page.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 13:28, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Selected CF Gordon Cumming's A Lady's Cruise in a French Man-of-War because it sounds the most interesting and therefore might get completed. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

September 2014
A few possibilities:
 * Mount Seir, Sinai and Western Palestine by Edward Hull, a narrative of a scientific expedition, alternate version at
 * Life and Remains of John Clare, the Northamptonshire Peasant Poet, a biography plus Clare's poems
 * Memoirs of Babur, full version translated Leyden & Erskin Vol. 1, Vol. 2 reprint of 1826 edition; abridged version with magnificent illustrations translated F.G. Talbot
 * Selected Mount Seir … Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:03, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

October 2014
For this month Was wondering about doing with a naval basis, but less people biographical and something on naval subjects or objects, or terms. So here are a few things that I have uncovered
 * Suggestion: Something naval
 * [//archive.org/details/universaldiction00falc An universal dictionary of the marine: or, A copious explanation of the technical terms and phrases employed in the construction, equipment, furniture, machinery, movements, and military operations of a ship] (1830) based on the original by Author:William Falconer
 * [//archive.org/details/steamnavyenglan00willgoog The steam navy of England : past, present, and future] (1895) by Harry Williams (Chief Inspector of Machinery, Royal Navy
 * [//archive.org/details/cu31924028019119 Famous British war-ships, and their commanders] (1897) by Walter Wood
 * [//archive.org/details/famousshipsofbri00adam Famous ships of the British navy]] (1863) by William Henry Davenport Adams
 * [//archive.org/details/developmentofnav00earduoft The development of navies during the last half-century] (1892) by Author:Sydney Marow Eardley-Wilmot


 * Selected Development of Navies. Would have liked to do the Dictionary, but it's got long-s throughout, which doesn't work well for a PotM. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

November 2014

 * [//en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AIndexPages&limit=500&key=POTM+2014&order=quality 2014 index pages]

December 2014
It would be good to tidy off some of the older suggestions. I suggest that we start with 's suggestion below of Index:America's National Game (1911).djvu for this month's PotM. It's been started and the images are already loaded on Commons. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:11, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I've looked at a few random pages, and the formatting looks simple for most pages. This could be a good choice. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Since we're almost done with America's National Game, what about moving on to True Stories of Girl Heroines next? The formatting is straightforward, and the book is written in independent chapters for each "girl", so editors can work on a single chapter without further commitment. The only thing I see that needs to happen is that the Index page's page numbers should be corrected to account for the internal illustrations. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:57, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Newbie made a suggestion for completing a work, and I replied that maybe we could consider adding it after we completed the current PotM. I said it blind without looking at it, though was so so so so kind to ping BWC. — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:01, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, you mean Index:Forth Bridge (1890).djvu. The remaining work to be done for that volume consists of processing a number of missing images, and entering a few hideously complicated tables. I don't think that work is particularly amenable to general community work as a PotM. Rather, it needs an image-savvy person and a table-savvy person.


 * FWIW, the book I'm suggesting is one of those "works not actioned" that is listed at the top of this page. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:06, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Moondyne and I had already discussed doing Index:Athletics and Manly Sport (1890).djvu next to keep in with the sports theme. I was just waiting for the current work to finish before swapping over to it. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:04, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, but we won't be able to finish that one. The source file is missing several of its illustrations. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:24, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Which someone very kindly patched in :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:44, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

January 2015
Starting a list of possibles Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:27, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The Museum, a Manual of the Housing and Care of Art Collections (1917) by Margaret Talbot Jackson
 * The Life Story of an Otter (1909) by J C Tregarthen


 * I'd favor The Museum, as I seldom see works on this topic anywhere. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:40, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd favor The Life story of an Otter -- WeeJeeVee (talk) 15:45, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Let's start with the Otter and then move to The Museum. I'm reasonably confident we can get both done. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * LOL. At the rate we're starting off, Life Story of an Otter will be completed in just three days. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there a central page that makes it easy to tell who has worked on the source? WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:34, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * In the tools section on the left side of the page there is a link "related changes". Click that when you're on the Index and you'll see the last 50 edits. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:41, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Some candidates (for validation)
 * Index:Kirby Muxloe Castle near Leicester (1917).djvu (for validation)
 * Index:The_Highway_Code_1931.djvu
 * Index:St. Botolph's Priory, Colchester (1917).djvu (for validation)

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

And one for proofread -
 * Index:Shore Line Electric Railway Predecessor Companies 1961.pdf

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:27, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * In most months we're looking for new works to add rather than validate. The Shore Line Railway won't work because it's a pdf. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
 * But I added a text layer back in December precisely so it could be a PoTM if needed, Fair enough though.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:04, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The PotM templates assume djvu extensions. As we can always get an OCR'd djvu file by conversion, I think that this is a reasonable requirement. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The source listed for "The Museum" notes - "Possible copyright status: The publication, and the images and texts within it, may be protected by copyright; use of such materials beyond fair use or other exceptions provided under applicable copyright law may violate the copyright laws of the United States and/or the laws of other countries. Permission from the appropriate copyright holder is required to publish or reproduce." Although I'm not sure why.. Best to consider an alternative until the status question is resolved by IA. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * This is standard text for the digitising source library and puts the onus on the downloader to ensure legality before use. However, it was published in 1917 in New York, so meets the pre-1923 requirement for PD-old. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Further possibilities, to follow after the current options: --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:05, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Angelo's Bayonet Exercise (1853). This is a military training manual in use of the bayonet, as is still referenced by modern weapon enthusiasts. It is short (97 pp.), which makes it very doable.
 * Child Life in Japan and Japanese Child Stories (1909) by Mrs. M. Chaplin Ayrton, with many nice illustrations.
 * I'd rather do the "Child Life", but I may be in the minority. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:34, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The Bayonet Exercises work, needs a front sheet removing, otherwise I'd have already started on it 23:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Index:Child-life in Japan and Japanese child stories (Ayrton, Matilida Chaplin., 1901).djvu, and I've already made a start on this. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Index:The museum, (Jackson, Marget Talbot, 1917).djvuShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Child-life & The Museum are now already proofread, so will put them aside in the meantime. I've a couple of other works in the pipeline, that I'll post as they're needed. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:16, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Other works if experiences contributors are interested (call it PoTM (Advanced level)
Index:The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus, Volume I.pdf - PDF- Needs OCR Cleanup and math experience.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk)

February 2015
As it is the month for fiction, I would like to propose the following list of translated Bengali works:

Hrishikes (talk) 03:09, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Nil Durpan (socio-political drama)
 * 2) The Poison Tree (social novel)
 * 3) Durgesa Nandini (historical romance novel)
 * These are already proofread and just need validation. Usually we're looking for a work to take from un-proofread through to completed. However, let's see what others think. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * In that case, let me propose Srikanta (Part 1); it does not have any complicated formatting, is easy to work with, and is also an interesting read. Alternative: Kapalkundala. If you require a work in a still earlier stage, i.e., not yet added here, then proposed: The King of the Dark Chamber(1, 2, 3) by Tagore, which has a Gutenberg version, so, easy to proofread. Hrishikes (talk) 09:52, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't really want to do works that have already been proofread. I think those need to wait until next November or be used in a "validation swap" with another user.  I think doing plays would be difficult for a PotM because every page would need formatting for the change in character and stage directions (which is a lot to ask for new-coming proofreaders).  I would support the idea of Srikanta.  Are there other parts of that work that haven't been uploaded, or at least other novels that we could use?  We'd go through that work in about 5 days.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 14:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Srikanta is a four-part novel; the first part is most famous, PD translations of the other 3 parts I could not find. Non-PD complete translation has been published by Penguin (1, 2, 3), but that's not for here. Secondly, this may not take much time, but this is easy, therefore ideal for PotM. For the time factor, I added an alternative, Kapalkundala. More works can be proposed by others, I think, if there's more time, after finishing these two, if agreed upon. Lastly, about your newbie theory. I am also new here, joined only a few months ago, and my first work here was a play (Nil Durpan). Hrishikes (talk) 14:53, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Addendum: Proofreading completed for Kapalkundala. So nomination changed to Index:Kopal-Kundala.djvu. Therefore, as discussed above, current nominations from me are: 1. Srikanta Part 1 (info:Iti Srikanta), 2. Kopal-Kundala (info: Kapalkundala and Kapalkundala (1933 film)), 3. Index:The King of the Dark Chamber.djvu (info: Raja (play)). Hrishikes (talk) 15:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As I've said elsewhere, it's a problem that these files do not include a text layer. We're now experiencing technical problems with the OCR button that's supposed to appear in the edit window. If we can't get that fixed, then without a text layer, these files will not be good choices for PotM. We were lucky that someone created OCR pages for Kopal-Kundala before the OCR went buggy. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I've noticed that we have no complete, sourced works by James Joyce. There are two transcription projects underway that could be used for part of this month, though I wouldn't put either at the top of the list for PotM—they're more filler for the end of the month as needed, as both have been started: --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Index:1917 Dubliners by James Joyce.djvu
 * Index:A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man (Huebsch 1916).djvu

March 2015
There is no category in this month, so lets take Index:Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857.djvu WeeJeeVee (talk) 15:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ If it goes well, we could look at locating volume 2 and doing that too. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Additionally proposed, if there is time:

Hrishikes (talk) 02:18, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Index:Calcutta, Past and Present.djvu already done
 * 2) Index:Asoka - the Buddhist Emperor of India.djvu (series starter)
 * 3) Index:Proceedings of the Royal Society of London Vol 1.djvu (series starter)


 * The first option has a flawed source file, so it isn't viable at this time. The third option would be too complicated for a PotM. Ideally, we want a selection simple enough that even newcomers could participate Formatting an academic journal volume is not likely to be a good choice. The last time we tried a highly technical volume we didn't come close to finishing it. The second selection is less than ideal in that it contains many transcriptions of Sanskrit words, which require careful attention to (and typing of) diacriticals unfamiliar to most English speakers outside of India. It might still be workable, but it will liekly be frustrating to many editors and will require an additional proofread by someone properly versed in recognizing which dots, dashes, and other little marks are missing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * addendum: The second and third options appear to be missing their text layer, so we wouldn't use them for PotM. All selections should have a text layer that shows up in the edit window. Without this, we would have many additional problems, especially in light of the aforementioned Sanskrit transcriptions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Index:Calcutta, Past and Present.djvu was patched, and I re-checked the page list. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:05, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

April 2015

 * Shelley's Queen Mab has been nominated before. This work may be ambitious for a PotM, but I thought I'd point out this early edition (1821) that pledged faithfulness to the original, while translating some of the Greek and French found in the notes. There is also this London edition from the same year. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:54, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ the London edition as the apparatus appears more complete (including original texts and translations). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:09, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I started on this version from The complete poetical works of Percy Bysshe Shelley, "Queen Mab", but feel free to start again from another source. - DutchTreat (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Also proposed: Ancient Ballads and Legends of Hindustan and A Sheaf Gleaned in French Fields, if there is time after doing Shelley. Hrishikes (talk) 01:40, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * We're close to finishing Queen Mab, so will need a second work. Sheaf doesn't have a text layer, so isn't a possibility. As a result we'll go with the Hindustan ballads. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:28, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Great, I'm all for it! <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 19:28, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * OCR text added to Sheaf. Hrishikes (talk) 07:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

May 2015

 * Index:Journal of a Voyage to Greenland, in the Year 1821.djvu - this is one of the items listed at the top of the page as previously nominated. It looks like it might be a good choice except that the pages all have "digitized by Google" watermarks. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:43, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Watermarks wiped out. Cheers! <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 20:25, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ as the first work. I'm not sure what the big issue about the watermarks is, so am ignoring this bit. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * They've been removed, so it's no longer an issue. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:20, 30 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I am suggesting Burma by Herbert Thirkell White . It was published as Volume 4 of the Provincial Geographies of India series edited by Thomas Henry Holland from the Cambridge University Press. We need more academic works and this may kick-start addition of the whole series to Wikisource. Solomon7968 (talk) 08:56, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. For our first selection, proofreading is complete. We need a new pick! --Siddhant (talk) 00:00, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, this can be next, but the first work needs finishing off. I know there's a problem with a couple of the plates, but there's still other pages that can be fixed. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:06, 7 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd like to suggest Index:Travels & discoveries in the Levant (1865) Vol. 1.djvu. I'm a bit buffled by the proposals procedure, so if i did it wrong please correct me. I started this book today. Ah3kal (talk) 11:42, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The Alpenstock Or, Sketches of Swiss Scenery and Manners, 1825–1826 (1829)


 * Prefer either the Greenland or Burma works mentioned above, based on the fact that to my eyes they deal with proportionally poorly covered areas in wikipedia, might be most easily used to improve that content, and our being able to show that our work can improve their content might be the best way to get new editors involved here. John Carter (talk) 18:51, 8 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Can we take some text on Nepal? By the way, how do I search for books needing proofreading sorted by Geography? --Siddhant (talk) 04:38, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * We did Picturesque Nepal as a PotM a couple of years back. Try the various portals listed at this category as a jumping off point. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. And here it is, for people looking for texts by Country: Portal:Texts by Country. --Siddhant (talk) 19:07, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

June 2015

 * How to Know the Ferns (1899), by Frances Theodora Parsons. A classic book with some nice illustrations, and one of the first popular fern manuals published for North America (if not actually the first). At only 262 pages, this book might not last the whole month. If we choose it, then we should have another ready. It's really a shame we don't yet have any works by this author. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The North American sylva (1859), by François André Michaux. Contains many beautiful Illustrated, plates, most in color. 180 pages (260 imagecount pages) --Rochefoucauld (talk) 02:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * At around 700 pages of botanical text, that might be too ambitious for PotM. What you've linked is only Volume III. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:38, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Didn't notice that...never mined than. --Rochefoucauld (talk) 03:37, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * But vol. 1 is here: at archive.org. It has beautiful plates, indeed! Very good idea. Dick Bos (talk) 10:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Another proposal: Index:Life Movements in Plants Vol 2.djvu. It is a classic of botany and biophysics, part of a body of works which proved that plants were living creatures because of having movements of life. Vol II has a Gutenberg version mentioned on the author page, which should make it easy to proofread. Hrishikes (talk) 09:56, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * My proposal: Index:The Gall Wasp Genus Cynips.pdf by Alfred Kinsey, a great and voluminous study of gall wasps. I started it last year and had it done for nearly a half, but it was the easier half, consisting mostly of text. The remaining half contains many tables and images, so there's a lot of hard work to do. Nonexyst (talk) 21:33, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Proposal: Does Index:Descent of Man 1875.djvu by Charles Darwin fall under natural history? This is a very popular and important work. It seems to be halfway done. --Siddhant (talk) 14:24, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I support Descent of Man based on its inestimable importance. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Support Descent of Man. Moondyne (talk) 04:11, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, but it's really (biological) anthropology rather than natural history. That said, it is a key work and needs to be completed. If we select this for June then we should have a different topic for July. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Um, on second thoughts, there are many good online sources for this text. Do we really want to do this? What do you think? --Siddhant (talk) 00:32, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * My personal thinking on that issue in general is that we can't count on other online sources to continue to exist, or to continue to be available for free. Just look at Google News; one day it had extensive publicly available archives, the next day they were gone, replaced by pay services. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:32, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, makes sense. But can't we at least use the text someone has already produced? Why proofread all over again? --Siddhant (talk) 03:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * And where's the fun inthat? :) Moondyne (talk) 03:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's already been digitized electronically, you can grab the epub here. Although i'm very confused on the footnotes, poorly done. --Rochefoucauld (talk) 00:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

July 2015

 * Not sure whether this fits, but how about: Zhuang Zi, an ancient Chinese text that is one of the two foundational works of Taoism. The Giles translation is our only copy and it has not been proofread. The work consists of short stories, allegories, and anecdotes, so it would be easy for a new editor to edit a whole "chapter" in a short time. There is also not much text per page, and the font is large and friendly. The only wrinkle is the presence of a few breves (e.g., ŭ) and macrons in some of the transliterated names. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Is it a work on anthropology, as required for this month? Hrishikes (talk) 18:32, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, more or less it is. It is broadly "cultural anthropology," because most all of the so-called "social sciences" can be called that. I could certainly go with this, and, maybe, if it finishes early, maybe adding some other texts from volumes 39 and 40 of the Sacred Books of the East, or maybe just those two books themselves, John Carter (talk) 15:41, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing to say about the category issue, but I'm glad to see this proposed here. I've read A. C. Graham's Chuang Tsu: the Inner Chapters which explains the significance of the book. Though traditionally ascribed to one author, it's actually a mess of different stories and wisdom from different philosophical schools. There's lots of reverence for Confucius and the Chinese Classics, but also irreverence and criticism and as EncycloPetey says it's a foundational book of Taoism along with the Lao Tse/Tao Te Ching. I'll help out with this whether it's PotM or not, but I'd be glad to see this prioritised by the community. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:29, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)


 * An anthropological proposal: Index:The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State.djvu. Info at The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State. As a filler later in the month: completion of Index:Descent of Man 1875.djvu. Hrishikes (talk) 06:57, 8 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I have added some more famous works: 1, 2, 3, 4. Hrishikes (talk) 08:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

 * Out of Due Time (1906) by Josephine Ward (Mrs. Wilfrid Ward). Mrs. Ward "was a member of England's leading Roman Catholic family and wife of the Catholic author, Wilfrid Ward."  The novel "reflects the impact of religious and theological controversy [and] the unfolding crisis of Roman Catholic Modernism." (Abstracts: Amer. Acad. of Religion Society of Biblical Literature 1992, p. 113.)  Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:06, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks interesting, but why did you choose the odd capitalization for the work? --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:11, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You mean "Out of Due Time" as opposed to "Out of due time"? Just titling habits... Lots of work with poems...  Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:23, 24 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Another: Index:The Kādambarī of Bāṇa.djvu, seventh century Sanskrit novel, translated by Caroline Mary Ridding. Hrishikes (talk) 17:44, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Wrong and Right Methods of Dealing with Social Evil by Elizabeth Blackwell. A rather short (though important at the time) essay on prostitution in England by Dr. Blackwell. The Haz talk 18:27, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I am suggesting How to Keep Bees (1905) by Author:Anna Botsford Comstock (notable female entomologist). It will be an worthy addition to Portal:Insects. Solomon7968 (talk) 20:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * For a second choice, I suggest any of the works by Author:Almira Hart Lincoln Phelps (Chemistry (1830), Botany (1831), Geology (1832)). We haven’t considered scientific works by female authors in the earlier PotMs. Solomon7968 (talk) 20:45, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Since it wasn't selected earlier this year, I'll put this forward again, possibly as a second choice for the month: How to Know the Ferns (1899), by Frances Theodora Parsons. A classic book with some nice illustrations, and one of the first popular fern manuals published for North America (if not actually the first). At only 262 pages, this book might not last the whole month. It's really a shame we don't yet have any works by this author. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I support Petey’s proposal for the second choice. Notable science related work from a female author. Solomon7968 (talk) 04:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 13:52, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * n.b. I'm especially fond of this book because the illustrator, Marion Satterlee, was also a woman. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:56, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Index:Parsons How to Know the Ferns 7th ed.djvu is set up now, but the page numbers after p.1 have not yet been adjusted to account for the illustration pages. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

September 2015

 * Index:My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus.djvu, requested at Requested_texts The Haz talk 01:22, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like a decent selection (though I haven't checked the file). The only note I'll make is that there isn't much text on each page, so this might go quickly. It would be good to have a second selection on hand in case we need it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:00, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * There's at least one page missing from the scan. Need to either find a replacement scan or choose something else. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * https://archive.org/details/myclimbsinalpsca00mummuoft seems to have the requisite pages — billinghurst  sDrewth  06:52, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * What does that mean with respect to the pages already created? Do they get wiped out and replaced from scratch? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 16:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If they match the content and layout of the new Index file source, they can simply be moved to the correct new pagename. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:49, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I hope they do, then. I put some time into those pages already! <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 21:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That will need a little research. We need to see whether it is the same edition or not. Primarily, and whether we (are going to|can) go to a straight migration, or we need to do some back end gruntwork. If it is that far advanced, it may be better to just continue with the work, and look to input the missing page(s) separately. Depending where the missing page is, and the alignment of the work, we may just be able to import over the top, and update the file details with the new details. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It is a different edition. Current is printed 1905, this one is at least 1908. At least a couple of photos are different. So we have to come down to how much of purists that we wish to be. If we are only missing the one page, will a text insertion suffice? Does it take it out of the PotM space or not is a different question. It would take it away from Featured Text, but not necessarily PotM  — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * A disappointment, but we need to do what we need to do. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 04:11, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, this Google version here is the only 1895 copy available on the net for free download, so missing pages cannot be substituted. Apart from the missing page issue (which no one has specified), it is B&W and has a frontsheet, the latter making it liable for deletion at Commons at any time as per previous precedence. On the other hand, the 1908 version has at least two online copies (IA and DLI), so missing pages from one can possibly be substituted from the other. The IA version is a color-scan (making for better image quality) and has additional components (appreciation by Hobson, intro by the author's widow etc.). Therefore, the 1895 version should be left as is till repair is possible and the 1908 version should be taken up for POTM. This is an all-time classic of mountaineering by one of the great pioneers, so good for POTM as a quality work. Hrishikes (talk) 04:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

[following I had added to December but we have progressed Sep work well and it is still not half way through the month. Feel up to a harder effort of the RT list?]
 * (hesitantly) We would not normally do the slightly more complex or older works, but I would like to propose The Fable of the Bees: or, Private Vices, Public Benefits (maybe this 1724 3rd ed.). It is slightly political piece, already has an article at enWP and other wikis, but there is not really a browseable version available on the web. We have it referred to in existing works, and it does appear on WS:RT. — billinghurst  sDrewth  03:31, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm, long-s in a PotM doesn't usually work very well. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Does anyone have a good short work in mind that we could do for a second PTOM? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 17:54, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Index:My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus.djvu. According to Index_talk:My_Climbs_in_the_Alps_and_Caucasus.djvu there is no page missing. If the first page is a problem, it can be easily replace with a placeholder.— Mpaa (talk) 20:49, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * My impression was that due to technical shortcomings with the 1895 version, the POTM for this month was switched over to Index:My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus (1908).djvu, per User:Hrishikes above, which is almost done. I don't see the benefit to making a project of completing two versions of the same work in the same month (although I'm sure the 1895 version will come along in time). I would rather find an unrelated second work for the second half of the month. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 21:14, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * If the same theme (mountaineering) is acceptable, may I suggest Index:Climbing on the Himalaya and Other Mountain Ranges.djvu? Hrishikes (talk) 00:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me - we'll call this mountaineering month. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 01:30, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * However, the purpose of this month is to fulfil requests at WS:RT. Is there nothing else in the 100s of works on that page? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The Fable of the Bees was requested above, but that was disputed. Even the Mount Everest book is looking a bit long now. Is there something in the range of 100-150 pages? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * With only a few days left I've dropped in Index:Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted, 2002.djvu as a shorter work that has already been mostly proofread and needs polishing/validating. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:56, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

October 2015
Proposed: Index:Panchatantra.djvu. It is Panchatantra (certainly the most frequently translated literary product of India, per Wikipedia) of Vishnu Sharma (one of the most widely translated non-religious authors in history, per Wikipedia), translated by Arthur William Ryder (whose work as a translator is probably the finest ever accomplished by an American, per Wikipedia). 1925 copyright, not renewed as per Stanford search. Hrishikes (talk) 16:57, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Very very good choice. John Carter (talk) 19:26, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm reluctant to do two works of Indian fiction in translation in the same year. We could look at doing this one next year. Instead I propose Hunger, which is a Norwegian novel by the 1920 Nobel prize winner Knut Hamsun Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:19, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * While I can understand that, I think that there is a bit of a difference between "Indian fiction," which I believe the first work clearly qualified as, and one of the most widely notable works in the history of writing, which, to an extent, the Panchatantra is. I wouldn't call Aesop's Fables an example of "Greek fiction," either. John Carter (talk) 15:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks John. There is another point. The language is different. The first one was Bengali, this one is Sanskrit. Wikisources are language-specific domains, so works from different languages should fall in different categories for consideration here, and not clubbed together based on a geographical area. Hrishikes (talk) 02:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I think the choice of Hunger is a good one. Sorry I missed it before. The Haz talk 23:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Propose: Moll Flanders, a novel by Daniel Defoe. There is a Librivox recording that could go with it. The Haz talk 01:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I also tend to agree that we should spread it around a bit geographically. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:20, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Hazmat, do you have a suitable DjVu file that you've found? --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * or . Sorry for the delay. Haz talk 04:16, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Coming up to needing a decision here. There are three works proposed for October: Each one has two supporters in the discussion above. Can we please have some further thoughts/discussion/votes? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:27, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Panchatantra (?300 BCE) by Vishnu Sharma tr. from Sanskrit
 * Hunger (1890) by Knut Hamsun tr. from Norwegian
 * Moll Flanders (1722) by Daniel Defoe
 * I think Hunger would be a fine choice. The fact that it is a bit more obscure might make it less likely to be highlighted otherwise. If recent experience is a guide, we will probably end up needing to work on a second POTM anyway, so let's go with Hunger first, and Moll Flanders as a backup. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 12:14, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Moll Flanders has one point that causes me to favor it: This coming week is Banned Book Week, and Moll Flanders is a previously banned book. We might consider, starting next year, to select a significant work that has been banned for the monthly project. It might even serve to draw in additional editors if we were to advertize that fact. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That is undeniably a good point. In that case, I will support Moll Flanders for the first POTM, and Hunger for a second, even if we only get started on it. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I favour Hunger only due it being Norwegian fiction, though would be comfortable with Moll Flanders (noting that fiction is not my favoured type of work), and I think that we can rack and stack, and if we only get half way through the second, that is still advancement. Happy with the suggestion of a banned book month, and it is probably appropriate for us to start the 2016 proposed subject list AND how we can leverage input and discussions from further afield. (We do need to be more on the front foot and more advertorial.) — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * My impression is that neither of these is a particularly long work. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 17:20, 28 September 2015 (UTC)


 * A quick point of concern here. The version of Moll Flanders that we are working on is actually two books in one - the first half is Moll Flanders, and the second half is The Life of Roxane (or Roxana: The Fortunate Mistress), a different work by Daniel Defoe.
 * Yep, and we'll transclude them to two different mainspace pages. One called Moll Flanders (1906) and the other The Fortunate Mistress. However, once the Moll Flanders section is completed (incl. validated) we'll switch the PotM template to Hunger. Roxana is a bonus if it gets done as well. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:45, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Those would be weird choices for transclusion locations, since they appear in a single volume, with an introduction and all the publication information there. Normally, we use something like Moll Flanders and Roxana/Moll Flanders and Moll Flanders and Roxana/Roxana for works included within a single volume. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:05, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree with EncycloPetey with them about being transcluded as subpages to give honesty to the edition, and just in case there are subsequent versions. The root should reflect the title page. Redirects from the root to respective versions. — billinghurst  sDrewth  05:35, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The Moll Flanders portion of the work is done, but we may as well press on and finish validating the Roxana portion before getting to the next POTM. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Moll Flanders is done, but I'm not sure it makes sense to launch into another substantial work at this point of the month. Perhaps we could either find a small one or start the November validation drive early. Cheers! <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:41, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of starting November's work early. There doesn't appear to be a shortage of works for it.  ;-)  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:24, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm for starting early, too. I've got a nice list of works to validate already queued up.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 16:36, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm OK with it as well, as long as there is a mechanism for tracking and granting "credit" to those proofreaders who participate. The user page "awards" may be mere tokens, but they are one of the few incentives or bits of recognition we give out. Some users really do appreciate receiving them. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:59, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Works are visible as a group at https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AIndexPages&limit=500&key=POTM+November+2015&order=quality> if there are works that should b3e on the list, then add  to the Table of Contents. — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

November 2015

 * List of works targeted in November 2015

December 2015

 * Proposed: Black's Law Dictionary (Second Edition). This is the last public domain version of this work, which continues to be the most widely used legal dictionary. Once completed, this work will serve as a cross-reference source for Wikipedia articles (demonstrating the historical meanings of the legal principles defined), and for Wikitionary entries. It is lengthy, and probably not doable by an editor working alone. Wiktionarians can be recruited to help. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 18:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Good choice for the reasons above. John Carter (talk) 16:17, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * While I agree that this is an important work, the great length and the quantity of technical text squeezed onto each page make this a poor choice for monthly collaboration. Especially so in December, which is usually a slower month for member activity in PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Not a good choice for PotM. The style complexities would make it difficult to keep consistent across multiple editors. Also works requiring complex LST don't work well on PotM. This would be better as a WikiProject where consistency of style and transclusion can be ensured. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree with BWC, and it isn't very Christmassy — billinghurst  sDrewth 

— billinghurst  sDrewth  10:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Proposed: The Royal Institution has a tradition of Christmas lectures, and we have a The Chemical History of a Candle (though it is not scan supported yet!), they are not at the most intense level, so I would like to suggest some of these published works, though would feel comfortable with many from the series
 * A voyage in space
 * Extinct animals 218 illustrations
 * The childhood of animals
 * Life in motion, or, Muscle and nerve : a course of six lectures delivered before a juvenile auditory at the Royal Institution of Great Britain during the Christmas holidays of 1891-92
 * More choices at https://archive.org/search.php?query=%22juvenile%20auditory%22


 * "The Chemistry of a Candle" looks interesting. We don't have much chemistry here, so it could make a good choice. I personally like "Life in motion, or, Muscle and nerve" as well, since we have little to nothing on medicine, human anatomy, biomechanics, or kinesiology. I saw only one page requiring advanced formatting, but there are a lot of images. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:43, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Images, I can do. ;-) <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 17:14, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Since we are now in December, we really need to lock down our choice. Candles are Christmassy enough, in my opinion. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 04:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Since we're most of the way through Candle, I'll prepare Life in Motion to follow. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:11, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 12:32, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Life in Motion nearly done, so I've brought A Voyage in Space in to replace it. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:39, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Is it a Christmas voyage in space, though? :-) <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:10, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ties in nicely with a news event in the UK though:) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:44, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


 * We need a fourth work, so I've picked another Faraday set of lectures: Various Forces of Matter. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:22, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

January 2016
Because I am silly enough to think that having it as the featured text on Valentine's Day might be amusing, I nominate The Kiss and Its History by Kristoffer Nyrop at archive.org. The work is one of the few sources cited for the article on kissing in the recent Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible, which is evidently reason to think it is one of the better such works out there. John Carter (talk) 18:35, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I like it, though we will need another as it is 210pp. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Only issue I can foresee—if it becomes nominated for FT—is that you will need to keep a tight rein on the formatting before (explicit formatting instructions on Index Talk page), during (making sure multiple editors are actually following the instructions) and after (perhaps a couple validation run-throughs) proofreading in order for it to be FT-worthy the following month. [Some formatting considerations: Wikilinking (rule of thumb: one internal link—per subject—per chapter—difficult to monitor with multiple editors); poetry (I recommend Block center with breaks and gaps—also introduce fqm); references (standard vice symbols)]. Otherwise, I find it a good choice as well at first glance. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:13, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think this would make a good PotM selection. It's a wonderful little piece of research, but it contains a LOT of poetic quotations, and a LOT of foreign language text. I saw Spanish, French, German, Latin, and Greek all in the prefatory material and first chapter alone. This could make a good group collaboration, but I don't think it's suitable for PotM; its format and content are too challenging. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:15, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't see the problem there. The language and formatting issues are not that complex. It's a relatively short work. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Most contributors to previous PotM steer clear of poetic formatting pages, and do not proofread pages with non-English text. So, it is a pretty serious issue for selecting PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:23, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * There being no other suggestions at present, I've gone with The Kiss. Per ' suggestion I have put some formatting notes on the Index Talk page. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Some possibilities to follow the first selection:
 * The Milestones and the Old Post Road, short work (20pp)
 * Telephone Lines and Methods of Constructing them Overhead and Underground, longer work (420pp) profusely illustrated
 * Fountains Abbey: the story of a mediæval monastery, 204pp


 * Short [178pp] : Anonymous (1840) "The Comic English Grammar" --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:07, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
 * (Note: The particular copy linked, now in a California library, is stamped as having previously belonged to Walt Disney Studios.)


 * The Kiss is all done now I think. What's next? :) &mdash; Sam Wilson ( Talk &bull; Contribs ) &hellip; 04:10, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Just putting The Comic English Grammar into the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:49, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

February 2016
Since we didn't pick it up in October, I propose moving forward with Beeswaxcandle's proposal for the Norwegian novel Hunger by Knut Hamsun. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 17:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: The translator died in 1945, which will be just over 70 years ago when we start work on this. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Life of the author plus 70 years. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 16:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * But the author, Knut Hamsun died in 1952, which is only 64 years ago. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:34, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Translation published 1899, original in 1890. The work is PD in the US. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:24, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * But do we need to move the source copy to Wikisource? Is it PD in Norway, or will Commons delete it? --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:30, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

The crime novel Quintus Servinton (1830) was allegedly the first novel published in Australia. There are a few online versions floating around. Moondyne (talk) 06:23, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * But no PD scans :( ... Moondyne (talk) 23:27, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hunger is coming to an end, so I suggest we pick up the other work proposed in the last time we looked at Fiction, which was Index:Panchatantra.djvu. says that, although published in 1925, the copyright wasn't renewed and that this particular translation is an important one to have in our collection. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:38, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

March 2016
Noting that enWP is having in March w:Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month and maybe we should be swapping our women's work over, or think about how we can work on that jointly, also see w:Wikipedia:Meetup/Women_in_Red/8. — billinghurst  sDrewth  05:50, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That makes a great deal of sense to me. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:53, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Our choices are flexible. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:16, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * An excellent idea! How about asking around those projects for suggestions? CYGNIS INSIGNIS 06:50, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have dropped a note to the project's talk page, and put a note on Keilana's talk page. — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:43, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Wives of the prime ministers, 1844-1906 by Elizabeth Lee
 * By a woman about important women who otherwise drop under the radar. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:44, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like an interesting book. Although I've heard a lot about US First Ladies, I've heard almost nothing about the wives of UK Prime Ministers. Do we know the date of death for the two authors? That could affect whether it's hosted here or on Commons. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:11, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Lee died in 1920, and Lucy Masterman is the person listed as a contributor died 1977. One could argue that contributions are not necessarily the authorship (research, opinions, organisational) and the declaration of a specific author is sufficient. Though if you want to play safe, we just have the scan stored here. The work is pre-1923 so able to be hosted here. — billinghurst  sDrewth  03:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Lives of the Wives of Queen Victoria's Prime Ministers (1917) Elizabeth Lee


 * if someone could queue up Index:Wives of the prime ministers, 1844-1906.djvu, and upload Lives of the Wives of Queen Victoria's Prime Ministers, that would be helpful. <font face="Vijaya"> Slowking4♡RAN's revenge 14:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I have added this as the current PotM. &mdash; Sam Wilson ( Talk &bull; Contribs ) &hellip; 23:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

April 2016
For poetry month, I recommend works of poetry by soldiers fallen during WWI. I have generated a list of works for consideration based on my proofreading of For Remembrance & etc.—if this seems like a palatable idea. Sorry for the space this takes up. Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:40, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I would like to suggest a somewhat quirky item, Index:Poets of John Company.djvu, a collection authored by British people living in India in the times of the East India Company. The authors include William Jones, Warren Hastings, Henry Louis Vivian Derozio, Horace Hayman Wilson, Emma Roberts and many others. Hrishikes (talk) 15:42, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of doing a book of WWI poetry. As this is rather a long list, let's focus on one of the books from 1916 so that we can feature it as a centennial of publication. If we get through the chosen work, we could then move on to Hrishikes' suggestion, which sounds intriguing. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Of the 1916 works (and many others listed), most poems are pre-WWI. I might recommend Leslie Coulson's 1917 From an Outpost (Coulson died in 1916); or Vernède's War poems &c. (1917). We have Mackintosh's works here already, but they are unindexed. Londonjackbooks (talk) 11:01, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Plumb forgot about the new PotM. I can set up an index (I am now leaning towards Alan Seeger's Poems (1916)—his war poetry in part the last), or we can go ahead with Hrishikes' recommendation above—just to get a work on the Main page for April at least. If there are no takers, I can try my hand at listing on the Main page—not 100% sure how to do it, but I could give it a shot; just didn't want to step on anyone's toes... Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:31, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Based on Beeswaxcandle's consent to do a 1916 work on war poetry, Alan Seeger's Poems should basically fit the bill. The last portion of the work covers his war poetry, and for those editors who do not necessarily like to work with poetry, there is a somewhat lengthy introduction (with some poetry). I left poetry formatting suggestions at the Talk page of the index, and may add more as I familiarize myself with the work. I will go ahead and make changes to the PotM and Collaboration templates to reflect the selection. Feel free to check my changes to make sure I have not made any mistakes. Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:35, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have selected Hrishikes' suggestion above as second April selection. Seeger's Poems is in still in need of transclusion and standardization, and I will continue that process. Help is still welcomed in these areas. Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:30, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to the Proofread of the Month projects for April. To update: Seeger's Poems still needs to be checked for standardization following the recommended guidelines on the project's Talk page, and pages have yet to be transcluded is complete but for a Greek double-check that I have requested. Poets of John Company is almost done (preparing for transclusion), and while there was no recommended formatting posted, it seems to be in the process of standardization using the poem tag. Londonjackbooks (talk) 01:35, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * And Author pages to be created and linked.— Mpaa (talk) 07:18, 17 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Is there time for a third work? I would like to suggest Index:The Bird of Time.djvu, by India's best known female poet. Not a long work, it should be possible to complete within the remaining month. Sorry, didn't realise that placeholders were already in place. Hrishikes (talk) 10:24, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

May 2016

 * Charles Brand, Journal of a Voyage to Peru: A Passage Across the Cordillera of the Andes in the Winter of 1827  (1828) --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:24, 17 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Some famous travelogues:


 * Three years in Europe, 1868 to 1871 (Europe from the viewpoint of a travelling Indian)
 * Index:Arabia, Egypt, India - A Narrative of Travel.djvu
 * Index:The Periplus of the Erythræan Sea.djvu
 * Index:Journey to Lhasa and Central Tibet.djvu
 * Indian Pandits in the Land of Snow
 * Index:Ancient India as described by Megasthenês and Arrian.djvu
 * Si-yu-ki, Buddhist Records of the Western World (1, 2)
 * Index:Ancient Accounts of India and China.djvu
 * Index:The Six Voyages of John Baptista Tavernier.djvu (easy to proofread from online version of University of Michigan)
 * Index:Record of the Buddhistic Kingdoms (Faxian, Giles).djvu
 * Index:A Record of the Buddhist Religion as practised in India and the Malay Archipelago.djvu
 * Index:A Voyage to Surat in the Year 1689.djvu
 * Index:The Ancient Cities of the New World.djvu
 * Index:The Three Voyages of Vasco da Gama and His Viceroyalty.djvu
 * Index:Travels in the Mogul Empire, A.D. 1656-1668.djvu
 * The Book of Ser Marco Polo, the Venetian, concerning the kingdoms and marvels of the East (3rd ed) (1, 2, 3)
 * Index:Report of a Tour Through the Bengal Provinces of Patna, Gaya, Mongir and Bhagalpur; The Santal Parganas, Manbhum, Singhbhum and Birbhum; Bankura, Raniganj, Bardwan and Hughli in 1872-73.djvu
 * Wanderings of a Pilgrim (1, 2)

Locations were exotic at time of travel. My recommendation is for the first item of my list, because of the POV of author, and because a travelogue of Europe by a foreigner should be an interesting item. Hrishikes (talk) 02:22, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * My choice would be the exploratory report by J. D. Beglar about the rich history of Chhota Nagpur Plateau of eastern India. Beglar's report is one of the very few documentations on this area and his work is still referred with respect by researchers there. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 07:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, I did not know about the full significance of the work, but yes, it is about a little known area, so . Hrishikes (talk) 07:31, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * P.S. A problem is the lack of OCR layer, but I'll take care of it. Hrishikes (talk) 07:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I am actually keen for the first one also. It is interesting to see what perspective would be provided about Europe by some one from India. Since we have generally been getting through two a month, let's line that up to be the second one. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 17:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree that both of those would be interesting. AnotherAnonymous (talk) 08:51, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

June 2016
Some biographies:


 * Index:Rabindranath Tagore - A Biographical Study.djvu
 * Index:The Life and Work of Sir Jagadis C. Bose.djvu
 * Index:Ramakrishna - His Life and Sayings.djvu
 * Index:The Master as I Saw Him.djvu
 * Index:The Life and Letters of Raja Rammohun Roy.djvu
 * Index:Life and Work of Romesh Chunder Dutt, C.I.E..djvu
 * History of Aurangzib (based on original sources) (1, 2, 3)
 * Index:Chaitanya and His Age.djvu
 * Index:Chaitanya and His Companions.djvu
 * Index:Shivaji and His Times.djvu
 * Index:Buddha - his life, his teachings, his order.djvu
 * Index:Isvar Chandra Vidyasagar, a story of his life and work.djvu
 * Rulers of India series (except vol 1, which is already proofread)
 * Index:The Harsa-carita of Bana (1897).djvu
 * Index:Life and Letters of Toru Dutt.djvu

If autobiographies are allowed:


 * Index:The Autobiography of Maharshi Devendranath Tagore.djvu
 * The Memoirs of Harriette Wilson (1, 2)
 * Babur-nama (1, 2)
 * Index:The Story of My Life.djvu
 * Index:My Reminiscences.djvu
 * Index:The Autobiography of an Indian Princess.djvu

I have given a list, from which, choices can be made, if others concur. Hrishikes (talk) 07:14, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Too many options. Please bring the list down to three of the best-remember that most of us don't have any knowledge of these people or their significance. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:25, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't think people here have so little around-the-world knowledge. Anyway, all the subjects have Wikipedia articles, so getting the knowledge is not an issue. The list can be narrowed down to the first three (as good as any), but I would prefer a community feedback. Hrishikes (talk) 08:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * A good list, but we can't do all of them! The one I've heard of are Tagore, Ramakrishna, Aurangzib, and the Buddha.AnotherAnonymous (talk) 16:44, 17 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I would like to recommend the biography of Isvar Chandra Vidyasagar, a social reformer and educationist from 19th century Bengal, who fought against religious and superstitious rituals and dogma in a rational way. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 07:17, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * , Vidyasagar was one of India's most important social reformers, who fought for women's rights and paved the way for widow remarriage among the Hindus. Hrishikes (talk) 07:34, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

The current POTM is proceeding at high speed, so we need to choose a second work. As the first work is a biography, I am proposing an autobiography as the second. We have gone for two India-related works consecutively, so let's go for a British work: let us see, up close, one of the most renowned courtesans in history: Index:The Memoirs of Harriette Wilson Vol 1.djvu. Hrishikes (talk) 14:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

July 2016
Some short ones: --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
 * [116pp] : Samuelson (1860) "The Earthworm and the Common Housefly", 2nd edition.
 * [64pp] : Lewis (1874) "The Pathological Significance of Nematode Haematozoa", has sidenotes, footnotes, and several illustrations with explanatory text set on the neighboring page.
 * [10+2pp] : Danglade (1919) "The Flatworm as an Enemy of Florida Oysters".
 * [78pp] USDA (1900) "Notes on the Mosquitoes of the United States"
 * [4pp] : USDA (1902) "The Silver Fish", circular No. 49.
 * [10pp] : USDA (1906) "Key to the known larvæ of the mosquitoes of the United States", circular No. 72.
 * [20pp] : USDA (1908) "The White Ant", (Termites); circular No. 50.

It looks at though the US Dept. of Agriculture, Entomology Division, has put out a whole series of short publications on pest insects. We might consider working on this range throughout the month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:30, 31 December 2015 (UTC)


 * The Life of the Fields (1884) by Richard Jefferies might be a nice addition. I proofread one of the essays already, and it reads like poetry, using language and imagery reminiscent of Mrs. Coates' many nature poems. Nice observational pieces. Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:25, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Only portions of this are natural history, though, if we're sticking to the monthly theme. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:39, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Granted... Londonjackbooks (talk) 23:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Let me (again) suggest: How to Keep Bees (1905) by Author:Anna Botsford Comstock (notable female entomologist). Solomon7968 (talk) 16:45, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I had a squiz at that text and think it is a great suggestion. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 19:07, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I support the work on bees. As a second work, if there is time, I am proposing the first volume of a very famous series: Index:The Fauna of British India, including Ceylon and Burma (Birds Vol 1).djvu. Hrishikes (talk) 09:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

August 2016

 * There are a number of works we have in the series of Portal:Hibbert Lectures that cover this genre. They are usually substantial in size 300+ pp for a series of lectures. So looking at Hibbert Lectures maybe we could consider one of
 * Kuenen's National Religions
 * Upton's Lectures on the bases of religious belief
 * Sayce's The religions of ancient Egypt and Babylonia


 * For Kuenen, this scan: looks to be the best. The length is fine, the subject is broad, and the many footnotes are mostly short and easy to handle. The only possible complaint I can see is that the author's view towards the origin and practice of Islam is likely to offend most Muslims. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:14, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * If we include material offensive to a group, it is because part of our function is to document the social mores, for good or ill, of the past. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The inclusion of such material is not at issue. What is at issue is the selection of a suitable work for community collaboration, which necessarily requires a different set of criteria. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:28, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, but what criteria? We had The Descent of Man as a collaboration, despite its controversial (and, arguably, offensive) nature to creationists; The Aborigines of Victoria and Riverina, which paints an unflattering picture of that group; and The Varieties of Religious Experience, which dismisses the doctrinal truth of religions altogether in favor of a more psychological cause, and primarily cites Christianity for its examples. It doesn't seem that offending a group, or offensive characterizations of a group, have been a consideration in the past. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 17:17, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * So... you are arguing that we should offend as many people as possible, then? Or that: because a thing has not been done in the past, we shouldn't start now? Or, what exactly? Your opinion in the matter is not clear. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:25, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I am arguing that it hasn't been done in the past, and adopting such a position now creates the appearance that there is one specific group for which we would dismiss the historical value of a work to avoid giving offense. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, but that still doesn't answer the question I posed: What is your opinion in the matter? --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * My opinion is that for POTM we should focus on the historical and literary importance of works, having a diverse breadth of coverage, and suitability in terms of size and formatting issues. I don't think that we should be particularly concerned with whether an otherwise qualifying work happens to reflect the prejudices and societal misconceptions of the day. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:25, 15 January 2016 (UTC)


 * An alternate view of anthropology, there is an important primary work still quoted in current day media ... Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds work already available at Gutenberg. The links are to scans from 1841, and the condition is reasonable, though not brilliant for the images . — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

As mythology is also allowed:

Hrishikes (talk) 15:30, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The Mythology of All Races (1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12)
 * Index:The Mythology of the Aryan Nations.djvu


 * If we choose to do one of these volumes, I favor Mythology vol. 3 (Celtic & Slavic), as it covers an area where we currently have little information. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:18, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, good enough, I think. If vol 3 gets completed before the month is over, then we can take up another volume; mythological stories are likely to sustain contributors' interest, these are also easy for POTM. I would prefer vol 12 as the second item, if it comes to that; its area is also little covered. Hrishikes (talk) 16:31, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. I've been seeing lots of references, and thus red links, to Cox's Mythology of the Aryan Nations, so I'm now leaning that way. It too would make a valuable addition, even though I'm uncertain how much of the scholarship has held up after all this time. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:14, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * After the mythology volume, I propose as second work an eight-volume series of anthrolopology starting with Index:The People of India — a series of photographic illustrations, with descriptive letterpress, of the races and tribes of Hindustan Vol 1.djvu, we can do the first vol. Hrishikes (talk) 11:06, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I am retracting that one. So many images make it unsuitable. As a second choice, I am leaning towards Kuenen's work, if objection does not come from a Muslim editor willing to participate in POTM, then it should be OK. The madness work should also be OK, I am trying to see if images can be obtained from some alternate source. Hrishikes (talk) 12:33, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Anthropology from another direction might be a work like, there are lots of images in the work as may be expected.
 * English jewellery from the fifth century A.D. to 1800 by Joan Evans

September 2016

 * How about Dialogues, Intended to Facilitate the Acquiring of the Bengali Language by William Carey for September? It is a bilingual book in English and Bengali and is one of the first printed books in Bengal. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 05:44, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Carey's book is bilingual, so editors not knowing Bengali will find it problematic. Hrishikes (talk) 08:53, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The Bengali part of the book will not be a problem, because proofreading of those pages will be done in Bengali Wikisource and I guarantee to complete it there. I have already added  template in relevant pages which will directly render them from BN WS. Please check this page for example. It would be a good collaboration between the two language projects. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 09:07, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * What is the point of presenting only the English translations of dialogues intended to help the traveler acquire Bengali? This really belongs at multilingual Wikisource. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:07, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you please explain how this work belongs at multilingual? As I understand, languages are not mixed at mul, they are kept separate, each with its own Mainpage (when created), waiting for its own subdomain in future. It is just a waiting hall for future wikisources. As both Bengali and English have moved out of mul, so how is a book using these two languages suitable for mul? This work is a Bengali primer in English, intended for English-speaking people, so the right place for it is here at the English Wikisource, I think. However, its suitability for POTM is another issue. Hrishikes (talk) 02:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Your understanding of mul is incorrect. Yes, the work is a Bengali primer for English speakers, but here we would host only the English, which would make the work pointless, as there would be simple everyday conversations in only English. The Bengali wikisource would host only the Bengali, which would consist of simple phrases in Bengali. The whole point of the book is that it sets the Bengali and the English side-by-side for the reader to learn the one from the other. The mul Wikisource exists to host books in more than one language, not just to host languages that do not yet have their own projects. This is one reason I have never worked on a book that sets the Greek and English of ancient dramas side by side. We don't host those here. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:25, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Mul wikisource is defined at mul:Wikisource:Oldwikisource: The multilanguage project Oldwikisource is portal between the existing Wikisource domains in different languages and it also serves as the incubator for Wikisources, hosting languages that don't have their own domains yet. No mention of hosting bilingual/multilingual texts. Moreover, if anyone tries to create a new page in page namespace, a warning appears, listing the existing language subdomains and with this advice: You should not create your page here if it is written on one of those languages. Exceptions may apply for pre-1923 work still copyrighted in its home country and forbidden in the specific language subdomain. I am not getting validation of your understanding that mul Wikisource exists to host books in more than one language ; so can you please point me to any such policy, or to examples where bilingual texts are hosted in toto in mul when both languages have own wikisource subdomains? Hrishikes (talk) 02:29, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The discussion to permit them never got anywhere, and there was strong opposition to including parallel texts. The page Multilingual texts was started to try to collect discussion on the issue, but (as you can see) we never got as far as any coherent text on the issue. The strong opposition is why I abandoned hope of having such texts here. If you feel such texts belong here, please point out a policy that permits them here. I have seen none. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:52, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * You would be more knowledgeable about policy, but I have seen practical examples. Index:Swahili tales.djvu is a bilingual work, the Swahili portion being hosted in mul and the English portion here. In a work having Bengali and English, I had kept a fully Bengali chapter in Bengali Wikisource, keeping the link here. By this edit, the status was changed by another admin and the chapter was brought to English WS, although it is wholly in Bengali. This suggests that old perspectives have changed and new ones are gradually emerging. Carey's book is meant for English speakers and as you said, it requires both Bengali and English together. So it can help conceptualize future policy on this matter. When a specific work requires a specific approach, we should have the capability to be flexible and open-minded enough to accommodate experimentation, instead of nipping new ideas in the bud. As Bodhi pointed out below, this can be handled in various ways. If it is handled through POTM, new ways will emerge through the application of many minds; and who knows, this may be ultimately beneficial for this site. So I urge you to be more tolerant of new ways; policy either for or against can always be formulated later, after seeing how it goes. Hrishikes (talk) 06:20, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you please cite a policy where it was decided not to host this kind of book in En WS? En WS do have some multilingual books, which have been proofread simultaneously with other language Wikisource projects. This was one of the purpose of creating the InterWikiTranclusion.js. If transclusion of side by side pages seems to be a problem, we need to find a way to link them, thats all, may be it can be solved by Wikidata integration or by providing links of each other in both language transcluded pages or in some other way. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 03:05, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you please provide examples of these "multilingual books"? We eliminated all the ones I knew about a few years ago. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:52, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hrishikesda already provided an example of parallel multilingual book above, which is already proofread. There are few more examples in this page, which are hosted not only in EnWs, but also in FrWs, ItWs, CaWs etc. I hope it's OK now. - Bodhisattwa (talk) 09:35, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * In the case of Swahili Tales, the original book was indeed parallel, but the work as presented here is not. Only the English portion is present here, it is not side-by-side, and the English portion is both indepedent and complete in and of itself. It does not require parallel structure for presentation. The work being discussed here requires side-by-side text to be in any way meaningful. Please provide an example of this kind of text. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:30, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Like the English portion of Swahili Tales, the English portion of Carey's book is complete and independent. The Bengali portion is the translated version of the corresponding English pages, just like the Swahili Tales and also complete and independent itself. I can assure you as Bengali is my mother tongue. Carey's book doesnot require side by side text to become meaningful. Just like Swahili Tales, you just have to provide link of corresponding transcluded pages. That's all. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 01:58, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The Swahili Tales work is not presented side by side. I do not understand why you think that it is. One can see wither the English text of a chapter, or the Swahili, but not both.
 * With respect, the English portion of Carey's book is not complete in and of itself. The work is not a narrative, a piece of fiction, a speech, etc. It is a work instructing bilingual language acquisition. By its very nature, then, it cannot be complete with only one language present. I'm sorry you cannot see that. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * , I think enough time and effort have been spent on the nomination debate. I am really sorry that I could not satisfy you with my points, hence I withdraw the POTM nomination. But I still believe that the book should be kept in EnWS along with BnWS and find no reason to delete them -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 06:10, 13 June 2016 (UTC)


 * How about The Moralia, by Plutarch? We are woefully short on translations of Latin literature. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:54, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I am proposing Index:Babur-nama Vol 1.djvu, a work present in WS:RT, a translation from Middle Turkic. This is the autobiography of the first Mughal emperor, a work of legendary fame, more can be read at Baburnama. Hrishikes (talk) 02:20, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The length, extensive footnotes, and numerous unusual characters (such as "h with a dot below") would make this a poor choice for a general community selection. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with The Moralia. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 11:31, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Index:Principles of Political Economy Vol 1.djvu is timely for the American political scene and seems to have relatively simple formatting. Maybe we'll attract some new editors. :) It's also a requested text. Even more of this is available at... Volume 2 -- Outlier59 (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

October 2016
What do people think about doing The Red Badge of Courage by Stephen Crane? The book has at times been banned, and our current copy is "source unknown". --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:56, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Let's first see if we can identify the source of our current copy. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:10, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, but it has been tagged for six years now. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:55, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The text here seems to be consistent with the version at, so this is rather a case of match and split, instead of POTM. Moreover, this work was not banned on a national or even state level. Teachers were restricted to teach it by Bay District School Board in 1986. I don't think this is sufficient to categorize the work under Banned books. For POTM of this month, a work should be picked from some better list, e.g., List of books banned by governments. Hrishikes (talk) 03:34, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I've seen that list. Nearly all of the items appearing on it are still under copyright. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:47, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * In that case, how about Deontology or, The science of morality, by Jeremy Bentham? It's on the Vatican banned book list. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:29, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Also proposed: Index:My Life and Loves.djvu. See My Life and Loves, it was banned for 40 years in USA and UK. Hrishikes (talk) 01:25, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe this is helpful? -- Index:The Red Badge of Courage (1896).djvu. Outlier59 (talk) 14:38, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

How about Upton Sinclair's The Jungle? The version in mainspace appears to be a project gutenburg, but there's an index here waiting to be transcribed. While not universally banned, it did get banned in East Germany for being "incompatible with Communism." Which isn't entirely relevant, but it's an important part of American history. (Or, at least, it was required reading in my US History classes in high school.) Mukkakukaku (talk) 19:59, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Alternatively there's Fanny Hill: Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure, which is tagged incomplete. We'd have to find a scan, though; there doesn't appear to be one readily available on IA. Mukkakukaku (talk) 20:11, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * My Life and Loves selected Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:04, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

December 2016
I want to suggest we take a look at Albert Bigelow Paine, who was a close friend/contemporary of Mark Twain and wrote a few books about Twain. I know the 4 volume biography would not be a good candidate, but perhaps the Boy's Life of Mark Twain might be of an interest for us to have here. Here is the IA link for the book: https://archive.org/details/boyslifeofmarktw00painiala - Tannertsf (talk) 18:11, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:54, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm not a common user here on the en-WS, but if possible then I would like to propose Lynn Thorndike's The Place of Magic in the Intellectual History of Europe, The Columbia University Press, 1905. Probably other two works by him: The History of Medieval Europe, 1917, and Medieval Europe, its Development & Civilization, 1920, could be interesting as well, but it seems to me that they both are too large (each is more than 700 pages) for the Proofread of the Month. --Nigmont (talk) 21:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * (e/c) This is certainly an interesting book, but I think the subject matter is a bit heavy for December when we usually look for lighter material. I propose that we keep this work for our Anthropology month in 2017. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:19, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * All right then, I gladly agree to move this work for consideration for the Anthropology month (August) in 2017. --Nigmont (talk) 21:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I am an long time editor on wikipedia and wikisource. With that stated, I finally would like to suggest the rest of a 9 volume set of Cassell’s Illustrated History Of England. The 4th volume is underway now with Tannertsf and myself and almost all images have been placed in that 4th volume. We need more text done. Therefore, we could start with volumes 5-9 and once done we have a serious history of the homeland many of us have ancestry or where we came from or live in now. I grow weary of so many poems, and tattered pages for tots, as well as foreign lands. Look at these last November POTM texts we worked on and how much was accomplished -- unappreciated boredom boys and girls, or none of those chosen would be left over. Merry Christmas y’all, --Maury (talk) 21:35, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I think another work would be better for December. Due to personal considerations, I do not want this as our next POTM. Not trying to be aggressive, but I want to be able to finish this project without tons of people working on it. - Tannertsf (talk) 23:50, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I will abide by Tanner’s wish. We work exceedingly well together. --Maury (talk) 02:18, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Since Paine's Boys Life of Mark Twain is getting done pretty fast, I wanted to give up two titles I think would be good: First is The Chemical Foundation (1919), which is an 80 page report to congress by A. Mitchell Palmer, an author who we only have one speech by. Its link is https://archive.org/details/cu31924013797844. Second is The Man with the Iron Hand (1913) , a book by John Carl Parish about the coming of the French explorers and their interactions with the Native Americans in the early times of America - its link is https://archive.org/details/manwithironhand00pari. - Tannertsf (talk) 12:43, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Given the success of Boys' Life of Mark Twain (thanks Tannertsf for the popular suggestion), I've put a similar book about Booker T. Washington for the next work. I tried to find a book that began with "Girls' Life of ..." but was unsuccessful. I propose that if we need a third book for December that we go with Index:True stories of girl heroines.djvu. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Good idea. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 20:14, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

January 2017

 * A Treatise on Soap-making (1807) 160 pp selected and now complete
 * The Mutiny of the Bengal Army (1857) 62 pp already here and proofread
 * Church Seats and Kneeling Boards (1876) 26 pp selected and now complete
 * The Post Office of fifty years ago (1887) (contains a reprint of Rowland Hill's proposal for Penny Post and a facsimile of the original sketch for the stamp) 182 pp selected and completed
 * Old Castles (1868) 92 pp
 * Instruments of the Modern Symphony Orchestra (1917) 74 pp too many images and has score snippets on every second page of the body of the work—best if I do it myself
 * Paper and Its Uses: A Treatise for Printers, Stationers and Others (1914) 250pp selected

February 2017

 * Robert Tressall's 1914 The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists is widely regarded as a classic working-class novel Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:37, 31 December 2016 (UTC)


 * . We'll need to set up a style guide early on in order to alert participants to some of the dialectical spellings, places where ' ' is needed, and decide how to format the few letters (correspondence) which appear in the text. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * also. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:56, 22 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Index:Ben-Hur a tale of the Christ.djvu is, as far as I can tell, the highest public-domain novel on w:List of best-selling books that is not currently hosted on Wikisource. (Would also be appropriate for August.) —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:53, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Or December, if necessary. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

March 2017

 * My Own Affairs by Princess Louise of Belgium gives a different perspective on the Great War and about life in a European Court. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:00, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * While this would be a great book, the translator died in 1949 so it is not PD in life+70 jurisdictions. While that doesn't mean it can't be on Wikisource it would mean that editors from Britain and Ireland couldn't legally join in. BethNaught (talk) 10:18, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe something by Author:Emma Orczy? John Carter (talk) 16:48, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Some more: Index:The Autobiography of an Indian Princess.djvu, Index:Arabia, Egypt, India - A Narrative of Travel.djvu, Index:Wanderings of a Pilgrim Vol 1.djvu. Hrishikes (talk) 17:18, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I am clearly crossing the "overkill" lines with this, but this page might have a few ideas. John Carter (talk) 17:24, 23 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I would like to propose two stories by Mary Wright Plummer (there is still no her author's page here): Roy and Ray in Mexico (on the IA: edition of 1907 — two scans — first and second; edition of 1912 — one scan), and Roy and Ray in Canada (on the IA: edition of 1908 — also two scans — first and second; edition of 1912 — also one scan). She was a prominent librarian, so she has some relation to wikisourceans (since wikisourceans are also librarians, at some bit). And, in addition, these stories likely would be interesting for inhabitants of US (for which Mexico and Canada are neighbors) and Canada (one of the described countries), of which there are many of readers and editors of the en-WS. P. S. Since these books could be easily considered as "lighter works", I don't anyhow oppose if it happens that they are to be moved for December. --Nigmont (talk) 21:29, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It seems that current selection for the March — Women Wanted — will be done soon... In addition to my proposal(s) above: I have created the authors page for Mary Wright Plummer, and uploaded to the Commons scans of both of those works (now they could be found in the commons:Category:Mary Wright Plummer texts (English)). If current absence of the pageindexes is the major problem of my proposals then I could easily fix that problem and create those indexes, if it would help to the nomination. And thanks to EncycloPetey for the comment below. --Nigmont (talk) 23:30, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Most of these suggestions are fiction, which is outside the remit of the topic of Women's History, (or there are problems with the Index: that need to be fixed before making a PotM). I propose that one of the following be chosen: Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Economic Effects of the World War on Women and Children in Great Britain (WWI)
 * Women Wanted (WWI)
 * Under the Guns (US Civil War)
 * The "Women's History" is a Wikipedia effort. In the past, we have gone with any book authored by a woman, and have not limited our selection beyond that. That is: a popular or significant book authored by a woman is part of "Women's History", and our selection does not have to be a book about women in history. --EncycloPetey (talk)

I would support Women Wanted (being the 100th anniv. of American involvement in the War). The particular version linked to above, however, has missing text issues. I would choose another IA version of the same work. There are several, and one version I came across contains illustrations. I checked the text for errors, and all seems in order. Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:24, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:09, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree, it looks like an excellent book with quality photos. —Maury (talk) 00:03, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

April 2017

 * The Book of Scottish Song is a possibility, though it's bit long at over 600 pages, but it does not give the musical notation, just the lyrics. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't sure that this proposal would be generally accepted because of large size of the book, and that many people may be required to complete proofreading it (600 pages in a month is about 20 pages to be proofread daily — that is at least 2-4 people working on proofread at daily basis); but as of me personally — if this work would be selected than I try to participate on it (provided that I would not be busy IRL or elsewhere in that time), I think that a book of national songs tends to be interesting at the most instances. --Nigmont (talk) 18:18, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Perhaps:
 * Sisyphus: An Operatic Fable by R. C.Trevelyan (1908)
 * Pindar in English Verse, trans. Henry Francis Cary (1833)
 * We do not have any of Pindar's poetry yet. He is considered the greatest of the Greek lyrical poets, and this translation is the one recommended in the DGRBM article on Pindar. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:56, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Waiting this long was not possible for me. I have sought out and begun transcribing some better editions of Pindar. --EncycloPetey (talk)


 * Both The Book of Scottish Song and Sisyphys have layout issues that make them problematic for PotM. Can I suggest we have a go at Women's Voices? It's an anthology of 85 poets and about 200 poems, published in 1887. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:51, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you give a more specific criticism than "layout issues"? I know of nothing in Sisyphus that would be more of a layout problem than what I see in your suggestion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:10, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It's more about the problems of ensuring consistency of approach throughout. Sisyphus has three different speech layouts (on page 8 all of them) that will need careful consideration on how best to approach them and still make the transclusion look OK. For Scottish Song the double-columns, page borders (in multiple colours), headings in blackletter, and prefatory remarks at the head of most poems on top of the dialect makes this one challenging to get consistency across multiple editors who aren't invested in the work. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:47, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I see only 2 speech layouts done according to a single rule: If the first line of the speech begins as a new line of text, it begins on the line below the name of the speaker, but if the first line of the speech continues a previous line, then it is indented to follow from the previous line and the speaker's name appears on the same line. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:52, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I challenge that 600pp is too long, we finished 400+pp by day 11. I don't see the length as an issue compared with the formatting, so I say go for a large work! Find an epic work, make it a magnificent challenge, even if we have to slip through a couple of volumes. —unsigned comment by Billinghurst (talk).
 * For epic, classic, etc., the following are proposed, in succession throughout the month: 1. Mahabharata in Verse, famous translation by Romesh Chunder Dutt, 2. Index:The Hymns of the Rigveda Vol 1.djvu, 3. Index:The Hymns of the Rigveda Vol 2.djvu. Hrishikes (talk) 06:19, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Length is not my consideration here. We did indeed knock off a long work quite quickly in March. However, that was prose and we're looking a poetry this month, which is harder to work quickly on by dint of the indents. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:47, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree with Billinghurst that 600 pages is not a problem. If there is a consistent poetic style to be applied (or a small number to be applied consistently), I think was can still do that. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 22:17, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * In that case Index:The Book of Scottish Song.djvu is selected. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:06, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * We should add formatting guidance to the Talk page, if it is not already being done. Someone with knowledge of the nature of the book (with reference to poetry formatting, sectioning, etc.). I have not yet looked it over very thoroughly myself, but will... Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:23, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * EncycloPetey said they would leave guidance once they have taken a look around a bit more. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:38, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

May 2017
Smuggling from St. Pierre-Miquelon available at archive.org here. They don't get much more "little known" than Saint Pierre and Miquelon. Maybe with one of a few other works on the same area available at archive.org, of which The tourist's Maritime Provinces : with chapters on the Gaspé shore, Newfoundland and Labrador and the Miquelon Islands  here seems most substantial. Maybe alternatively adding something like Basil Thompson's Savage Island about Niue and Tonga, available here, because Niue might be one of the few places less known than Saint Pierre and Miquelon. John Carter (talk) 17:51, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Alternately, Author:Robert Henry Codrington's The Melanesians: Studies in their Anthropology and Folk-Lore, which has a scan available at archive.org, is still counted among the leading anthropological works, specifically in the anthropology of religion subfield, out there. John Carter (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * - The "Smuggling" text in archive.org looks rather bad, as far as the ocr-text is concerned. - "Tourist's Maritime Provinces" (516 pages) and "Savage Island" (290 pages) look much better. - The Melanesians is also good quality, has 450 pages. --Dick Bos (talk) 09:42, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


 * for all suggestions above, if the scans are up to par, with preference to Smuggling and Tourist's Maritime Provinces due to a slight personal bias towards Canadian geography :) —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:09, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

The Tourist's Maritime Provinces is selected as the first work, with Savage Island as the second. Let's keep Smuggling for January when we're doing shorter works (there's only about 10 pages of text). Also, I'll put The Melanesians into August as the second work of anthropology. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:51, 24 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Whizzed through the two works fairly quickly, so I've thrown in a more complex book in for the rest of the month, that looks at the Russian Empire in the late 19th Century from a American tourist perspective. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:06, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

June 2017

 * Since this year's Community collaboration is devoted to Henry David Thoreau, then it may be good to proofread some biography of him... So I propose to consider Annie Russell Marble's Thoreau: His Home, Friends and Books. — 1902, I found three scans on the IA: one, two, three. --Nigmont (talk) 21:01, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * , a good choice. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:10, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Just in case: I have created the author's page, and also uploaded a file of the book on the Commons: File:Thoreau - His Home, Friends and Books (1902).djvu; if needed, I can also create the index for it (if this is formally required for the nomination to be accepted as PotM). --Nigmont (talk) 19:09, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * An Index page is not required for a nomination, but it does help if the Index page is created before the new PotM becomes active. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:29, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * All right, I created the index as well: Index:Thoreau - His Home, Friends and Books (1902).djvu. But it should be noticed that one page is absent in the file—the page 167 (166 is followed by 168 in the file). I don't know yet how to deal with such a problem, and I hope some other users would help on this. --Nigmont (talk) 20:03, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * In addition: the file that I uploaded to the Commons (and then created index of which) is the file taken from this place: https://archive.org/details/thoreauhome00marbrich, this is the original publication of the 1902 year. Also another scan of the same edition exists: https://archive.org/details/cu31924022199495, I didn't choose it for uploading because it seemed to me not so good as the first one; but this second scan still has 167 page missed in the first one... --Nigmont (talk) 20:17, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You might post a request for repair in the Scriptorium. There's a special section for that. We usually want to start proofreading with a complete scan, in order to avoid complications. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:52, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * File replaced with a copy with that page in it. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:39, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like this 1969 replacement copy has an "Image missing facing p193", per User:SkakespeareFan00. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:11, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The image in question exists in the previously uploaded scan, though without a caption (this replacement scan has captions). The individual text-pages appear to be identical though, perhaps it would be wisest to take page 167 from this replacement scan and insert it into the other scan? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 16:47, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * (sorry for prolonged answer from me): really, I don't understand what did ShakespeareFan00 mean. Now I've downloaded new version of the file (that one to which Beeswaxcandle replaced the previous one, where 167 is missed), and I don't see any problems with page 193 (number is regarding the numbering in the original book, not as in the file) and pages around it. The image, which goes near 193, follows the page 194, and it exists in both versions of the file (and it has number 221 in both files, if according to numbering of the file). P. S. But I support the idea of Beleg Tâl: to insert missing page 167 from the second scan into the proper place of the first scan (produced from original 1902 year's edition), and replace the file to it. I tried to do it myself--with djvm.exe from DjVuLibre, but I failed (got error "[1-15108] Corrupted IFF file (illegal chunk id)."). --Nigmont (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Now I've tried to fix the pages' list in the index, and now it seems to me to be good, I don't see any missing pages in this version of file. Could anyone check this too? --Nigmont (talk) 18:30, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think ShakespeareFan00 looked far enough to see that the page was after 194 instead of before page 193. I didn't look far enough either. So the newer scan is okay for proofreading. I can't help you with fixing the other DJVU file though. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 20:53, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that the current scan, since seemingly there are not missing pages in it, is sufficient to go ahead with proofreading. Probably it would be better if someone could fix the scan of the original book (in order to use it instead of reprint publication); but since we seemingly could not do this right now (none of us has sufficient skills for this)—so we may stay on using the scan of the reprint edition, I think there's no any harm of this. --Nigmont (talk) 21:22, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I inserted page 167 and lcallly uploaded here File:Thoreau - His Home, Friends and Books (1902) fix.djvu. Note that the image at page D055 and D056 is splitted in two (in a way I cannot fix), so you cannot use this file right away but you would to shift pages. I leave the way-forward to you. If you do not need the local file, feel free to delete it.— Mpaa (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the fixed 1902 edition. Everything should be OK now.— Mpaa (talk) 10:01, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you very much for your great help! --Nigmont (talk) 20:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thoreau's biography now validated. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:31, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * If we need another work, perhaps The Earliest Lives of Dante, translated from the Italian of Giovanni Boccaccio and Lionardo Bruni Aretino, by James Robinson Smith, 120pp. (1901). I recently discovered we have almost nothing at all on Dante (only a few encyclopedia articles, and Tennyson's translation of the Divine Comedy). The work I'm nominating contains translations of the earliest two biographies of Dante, one of them by the writer Boccaccio. The work is mostly straightforward prose, without notes. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:17, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The index page for The Earliest Lives of Dante is up and ready:
 * A third possible work is T. R. H., the Prince and Princess of Wales, by H. R. Whates (1902) The Community Collaboration has switched over to Edward VII, and we have almost nothing by or about him. A biographical volume would make a nice addition to get that collaboration rolling. And if we don't finish it for PotM, it's still part of the Community Collaboration. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:52, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The Earliest Lives of Dante (it seems to me a good continuation); also The Prince and Princess of Wales is not opposed by me, though I am not sure that I myself will join to it. --Nigmont (talk) 21:49, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * also for both, though I also have no intention to participate —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:38, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Another possibility: Index:Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1892).djvu which would add a significant autobiography that we do not currently have, and which could be selected as Featured Text for February, since that month will mark the 200th birthday of Author:Frederick Douglass. We have quite a few of Douglass' works, but nothing currently backed by a scan, and this volume (his final edition of his third autobiography) is not yet available at Wikisource, in any form or edition. I am currently setting up the Contents and Images. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:31, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Scratch that option for now; the source file has a couple of serious issues, and there are no other copies at Google, IA, or Hathi from which to effect a repair. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Fourth option: Elizabeth Barrett Browning by John Henry Ingram 5th ed: This is part of the Eminent Women series. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:28, 9 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I've gone with the Browning biography for number 3, mainly because I'm not keen to have the PotM and the Community Collaboration on the same topic. Best to give people a choice of what to work on. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:48, 10 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Fifth option (since we're moving so quickly) Peter Cunningham's The Story of Nell Gwyn, one of England's first actresses (highly regarded), later mistress to Charles II, and who since "has come to be considered a folk heroine, with a story echoing the rags-to-royalty tale of Cinderella". --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * sixth - Index:The works of Anna Laetitia Barbauld volume 1.djvu, or validation of Index:Woman of the Century.djvu would be nice. <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ‽ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">SvG's revenge 13:47, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think it makes much sense to move to a sixth with two days left in the month. Better to use that time to revisit unfinished works from previous months. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 20:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd support these both in future proposals. Can we put Woman of the Century on the top of our November list? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

July 2017
This July marks the 200th birthday of Henry David Thoreau, one of the most widely read and remembered American naturalists. Yet we do not have his book The Maine Woods (1864). --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:20, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * As a second July work, if time, I propose Thoreau's A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers (1849). It should be relatively easy to proofread by July (formatting-wise), for I am chipping away at the pages containing Thoreau's poetry. It would be good to have Walden scan-backed—some day. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:35, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Looks good, support. John Carter (talk) 18:16, 14 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll second that. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 18:29, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Londonjackbooks (talk) 22:35, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * on both —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * on both —Maury (talk) 00:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers has been fully proofread, and needs only validation. We could now safely pass on using that for PotM, and validate in November (if it's not already validated by then). --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:10, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

A different suggestion: we could use some help with Audubon's ''Ornithological Biography, vol. 2 (and the following volumes, too, of course!) --Dick Bos (talk) 20:13, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * as third work if necessary —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Just located a good scan of G. F. Rodwell's Etna: A History of the Mountain and of its Eruptions (1878) --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:47, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

August 2017
[Copied from December 2016 proposals]

I would like to propose Lynn Thorndike's The Place of Magic in the Intellectual History of Europe, The Columbia University Press, 1905. Probably other two works by him: The History of Medieval Europe, 1917, and Medieval Europe, its Development & Civilization, 1920, could be interesting as well, but it seems to me that they both are too large (each is more than 700 pages) for the Proofread of the Month. --Nigmont (talk) 21:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * This is certainly an interesting book, but I think the subject matter is a bit heavy for December when we usually look for lighter material. I propose that we keep this work for our Anthropology month in 2017. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:19, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * All right then, I gladly agree to move this work for consideration for the Anthropology month (August) in 2017. --Nigmont (talk) 21:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)


 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 20:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * John Carter (talk) 23:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Since an index for this work: Index:The place of magic in the intellectual history of Europe.djvu—has been already prepared by Jasonanaggie and ShakespeareFan00 (though, I think it would be better if the creation of the index were announced here by anyone of themselves), this PotM may be started when the August begins. --Nigmont (talk) 22:08, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

[Copied from February 2017 proposals]
 * Index:Ben-Hur a tale of the Christ.djvu is, as far as I can tell, the highest public-domain novel on w:List of best-selling books that is not currently hosted on Wikisource. (Would also be appropriate for August.) —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:53, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Or December, if necessary. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

[Copied from May 2017 proposals] Author:Robert Henry Codrington's The Melanesians: Studies in their Anthropology and Folk-Lore, which has a scan available at archive.org, is still counted among the leading anthropological works, specifically in the anthropology of religion subfield, out there. John Carter (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Second work for month Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:38, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * as third work —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:11, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

September 2017

 * Beeswaxcandle and I would like to use September's PotM to add sources to one or more key works by Author:Frederick Douglass, so that they will be ready to feature for his 200th birthday this February. Currently, not one of his works is backed by a source, and ideally we would locate copies of the original publications. Do people like this idea? --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:56, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:33, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Londonjackbooks (talk) 01:35, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * - good call. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 12:41, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Since we don't have it at all, how about we start with Index:My Bondage and My Freedom (1855).djvu? If anyone can track down the first publications of any of his essays or shorter works, probably in periodical publications, it would be appreciated. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Speeches: 1, 2. Hrishikes (talk) 03:03, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The first one looks like a great source, but the second includes "extracts" from speeches, rather than complete speeches, and so would work only as a secondary source about Douglass and his public speaking. It still is a work we do not have, though. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:22, 5 September 2017 (UTC)


 * If we're ready for another text, we have either of these ready:
 * Index:Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave.djvu, Douglass' first (short) autobiography, which we have as an unsourced copy
 * Index:Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1882).djvu, a reprint of the first edition of Douglass' third (long) autobiography
 * Index:Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1892).djvu, the second edition of Douglass' third autobiography, much expanded and published shortly before his death.
 * Although we have a scan of the revised edition of his third biography, the scan has missing pages, duplicate pages, and a missing frontispiece. I could find no other scans of that edition from which to repair it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:07, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * 1892 version: the copy here is from the University of North Carolina. Same copy, html version, with frontispiece and missing pages (pages marked separately) is available here: http://docsouth.unc.edu/neh/dougl92/dougl92.html. Hrishikes (talk) 02:37, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Although the page content is there, scans of the missing pages are not, so the djvu file can't be repaired from that site. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:41, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed the file. Hrishikes (talk) 17:03, 12 September 2017 (UTC)


 * OK, first of the two put into the templates. Can some non-biographical works be sorted out to follow? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:39, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Since the Narrative existed already on Wikisource (just without a scan), and is now proofread, do we want to continue validating that work now, or hold it for validation in November and move PotM to the 1892 biography? The 1892 edition has a number of photos and illustrations, which are already uploaded to Commons at Category:Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1892). --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:16, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Surely we want to work on some of Douglass' other works and not just the autobiographies? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:55, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If we can get the original source scans, sure, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Most of the scans I've found for them have excerpts rather than whole original texts. We do have a number of his important speeches already, just unsourced. His biographies, however, we don't have at all. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:40, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Non-autobiographical: Index:Frederick Douglass — Speeches, Debates, and Interviews Vol 1 (1841-1846).djvu -- Hrishikes (talk) 02:30, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That's a 1979 publication, and it's quite likely we can't host it. Each speech has an introduction that will need to be removed from the scan. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:56, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Hrishikes (talk) 00:58, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The point of transcribing Douglass' works this month is to provide featurable content. This won't be the case for using a partial copy of a 1979 edited reissue collection from which much of the content has had to be removed. It might still be valuable in that it will serve as some sort of scan backing of some texts, but it will hardly be featurable quality to extract from such a scan. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:10, 15 September 2017 (UTC)


 * OK, the 1892 revised edition of the third autobiography now in the templates. I can only find later transcriptions of the LoC collection of handwritten texts—which are definitely not appropriate for PotM. If an wikisourceror wants to upload the scanned longhand texts and then put them through the proofread/validation process that's fine, but it needs to be separate project. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:57, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

October 2017
This month, I suggest we commemorate the 150th birthday of the Australian novelist and writer Guy Newell Boothby by putting one or more of his works up. We have virtually nothing right now. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:08, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Any particular works specifically come to mind? John Carter (talk) 21:09, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * If needed, I can hunt down specific recommendations, but thought I'd leave that choice to other people first who might know more than I do. I'm familiar with his work only in the most general way. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Specific suggestion: A Bid for Fortune, the first of his Dr. Nikola novels. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:20, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * works for me. John Carter (talk) 01:38, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:11, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:17, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Since we'll likely finish A Bid for Fortune in plenty of time, perhaps we should next consider the horror short stories by Georgia Wood Pangborn. We currently have only one of her stories, but they are all short, and each could be done quickly.
 * "The Gray Collie" (1903)
 * "The Convalescence of Gerald" (1904)
 * "The Intruder" (1907)
 * "The Experimenter" (1909)
 * "Cara" (1914)
 * There are quite a few more at IA. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:56, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Let's line them up. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 19:39, 16 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Since A Bid for Fortune was validated a few days ago, and no other works seem to have been chosen, I've set the template to overflow. Hope I haven't put my foot into anything, please do change if another work's been selected. —C. F. 19:12, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

December 2017

 * We lack Wordsworth's Peter Bell (1819), which I have just found referenced by Thoreau. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:17, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Beeswaxcandle took care of this one. (Hooray!) --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:24, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * If not used as a secondary work in August, Index:Ben-Hur a tale of the Christ.djvu is a prominent gap in our selection of literary best-sellers. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:12, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Another fun possibility: The Man Who Knew Too Much, by G. K. Chesterton, whose UK works entered PD this year. This book is a collection of short stories, mostly featuring the same detective team. It is unrelated to the Hitchcock film, but because of the similarity in the title, it may draw in new editors. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * , why not, Chesterton is often an interesting read. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 00:46, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Londonjackbooks (talk) 01:40, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Task A

 * The Language of the Eye: The importance and dignity of the eye as indicative of general character, female beauty, and manly genius (1856) by Author:Joseph Turnley "Untechnical" relatively short work (90pp) with some illustration and poetry. Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * , an excellent eye-dea. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know... Validating chapter 8—pretty sappy indeed, imo. Let's get this one done and move on to the next quirky work ;) Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * --Siddhant (talk) 03:53, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Albert Micah Hang (talk) 21:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Task B
Other possibilities:
 * The Milestones and the Old Post Road 20 pp (Book A) ✅
 * Albert Micah Hang (talk) 18:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Old Castles 92 pp (left over from Jan 17) (Book B)
 * This book have a lot of text, but there are still some decoration pictures in the text that should be handled if selected. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 18:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * A Treatise on the Cultivation of the Potato 72 pp (Book C) ✅
 * This book have a lot of text, but it contains 1 table. I vote "neutral" on this one. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 18:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Analysis of the Organization of the Prussian Army 92 pp (Book D)
 * This book have a lot of tables to deal with. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 18:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The Sclavonic Provinces of the Ottoman Empire 28 pp (Book E) ✅
 * Albert Micah Hang (talk) 18:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This is a political address by Gladstone regarding the mistreatment of Balkan Christians by the Ottomans. EncycloPetey (talk) 20:35, 1 January 2018‎ (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Option A

 * Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Dolliver Romance, Fanshawe, and Septimus Felton
 * Currently, we have neither Dolliver, which was unfinished at the time of Hawthorne's death, nor Septimus, which was discovered and published posthumously. Our copy of Fanshawe is not backed by a scan, though we do have it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:09, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Option B

 * Moslem Architecture: Its Origins and Development (1918) G. T. Rivoira, trns. G. McN. Rushforth --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:32, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Option C

 * Cyclopedia of Painting by George D. Armstrong (1908). This is a book of applied arts rather than fine arts. It does cover the painting of landscapes and such, but also the painting of houses and practical matters of all forms of painting. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:53, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * --Siddhant (talk) 09:17, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Selected Cyclopedia of Painting as the first work. If got through relatively quickly, then we could make a start on Moslem Architecture (which looks quite interesting). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:05, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Option A

 * Eminent Women Series Portal:W. H. Allen & Co.
 * Mrs_Shelley_(Rossetti_1890) validation
 * George Eliot (Blind 1883)
 * Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin (Pennell, 1885)
 * Susanna_Wesley_(Clarke_1886)


 * Umm... That series is already the Community Collaboration. The books don't need to be handled in two separate front-page collaborative projects at the same time, surely? --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:13, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * there is 20 books to pick from. those that i don’t do before then can fill the time.
 * Being selfish, I would just like to note that I am not merely proofreading Pennell's contribution, but am also reading it as I go along. Anyone is free to help, of course, but as there are many others to be worked on, I would like to all but claim this one. Trying to do a chapter a day. Londonjackbooks (talk) 02:49, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I have just set up the one for Emily Brontë. But again, these will likely all be proofread long before March, and are already part of a different collaboration project. We should pick something for MArch PotM that isn't already being done. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:21, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * at the rate of 2 per month, there will be 10 left to do. but if you have a better work, i am all ears. <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ‽ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">SvG's revenge 16:11, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Option B
We have none of the brilliant essays on literature, philosophy, and religion by George Eliot (Marian Evans): --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:21, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The Essays of "George Eliot", Complete (1883)
 * Early Essays by George Eliot (1919)

Option C

 * A Vindication of the Rights of Women by Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin — would be good to see a scan-backed version here. Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:25, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * IA has an earlier copy (1792) printed in Boston instead of Philadelphia. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:50, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I had just done a quick look-see before stepping out. Londonjackbooks (talk) 17:38, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Option D

 * The Devil's Pool, by George Sand.
 * Currently, we have no works at all by French novelist George Sand. The Devil's Pool is her most frequently translated novel. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:13, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support sounds good to me. John Carter (talk) 01:45, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Support - not having anything by George Sand is not a good place to be. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 04:00, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Options

 * Collected Poems (1901-1918) by Walter de la Mare For no particular reason other than I stumbled across the 2-vol. set and they need doing. If has no objections, being the uploader. Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:49, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Collected Poems, volume 2 de la mare
 * Collected poems Robinson, Edwin Arlington,
 * The poems of Emma Lazarus vol 2,
 * Index:The_works_of_Anne_Bradstreet_in_prose_and_verse.djvu.
 * Index:Poetical works of Helen Marr Hurd.djvu <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ‽ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">SvG's revenge 02:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Modern Poets and Poetry of Spain (1852) by James Kennedy


 * The Poems and Songs of Robert Burns; Harvard Classics, vol. 6 (1909)
 * The Purple East, a series of sonnets on England's desertion of Armenia, by William Watson (1896)
 * At 92 pages, this won't last a full month, but these sonnets were politically influential in English foreign policy at the time. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:28, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Our American Cousin by Tom Taylor. A 56 page play with relatively simple formatting. This is the play Abraham Lincoln was attending at Ford's Theater when he was shot. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:14, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Cyrano de Bergerac (1897) famous play by Rostand; 1919 translation by Gladys Thomas & Mary Guillemard

Option A

 * Perhaps Vols. I & II of George Kennan's Siberia and the Exile System (1891) V1 V2 In 1884, the editor of The Century Magazine suggested Kennan go to Siberia and give the results of his work to the magazine. The 2-vol. set is a compilation of the fruit of Kennan's observations. Numerous pictures, maps, etc. History, geography, etc. of a then-"terra incognita". Londonjackbooks (talk) 02:49, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid if we can finish these 2 huge volumes within one month or not because they have so many pictures and maps within each volume (in the text or at individual pages). Albert Micah Hang (talk) 21:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Option B

 * Perhaps A Motor-Flight through France (1908) by American author Edith Wharton. We have none of her travel literature, for which she was known, and this is a view of France in the early 20th century, before the devastation of two World Wars. It includes nearly 50 illustrations, most (all?) photographs. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * An excellent idea. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 17:27, 30 December 2017 (UTC)


 * - let's line it up! <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. I'd already selected it, I just forgot to put it in the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Option C

 * A note: Index:Journal of the Royal Geographical Society of London, Volume 1 (2nd edition).djvu is on the list of works not List of suggested works not actioned.. —Canageek (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Option A

 * The Lives of the Poets-Laureate, by W. S. Austin and J. Ralph (1856)
 * This is a series of short biographies of all of Britain's poets-laureate from Ben Jonnson to William Wordsworth. It includes biographies of outstanding poets for whom we have little or no information, such as Laurence Eusden (whose author page I just created). --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. Sounds like quite a useful resource. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Let's launch this. There is no plan B. Cheers! <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Option A

 * What about something by |Thomas Chandler Haliburton? He died in 1865, so all his work is public domain. Author:Thomas Chandler Haliburton has a list of external scans of his works. In particular The Clockmaker would work, since it has a text on here with a "The source document of this text is not known." plus an external scan at Archive.org |in |three |parts —Canageek (talk) 22:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * , adding a scan to an existing work is always a good plan. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

P.S. I should say why: On of Canada’s most famous early authors, and known for his humour. It seems like that might help make this more fun to do, then a dry source text? On the other hand, no images. —Canageek (talk) 22:16, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Option B

 * Either of these early novels by Edith Wharton would be nice. She was a Pulitzer prize winner (the 100th anniversary of which is coming up), but we are missing lots of her works, and I can't find many of them in on-line catalogs either: VIAF, BnF, GND, and LoC are sadly short of her works, so having them here would contribute to the diversity of the entire web and not just Wikisource. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The Fruit of the Tree (1907)
 * The Marne (1918)
 * I think The Marne is the best option for July because it is short enough for us to finish in one month and it corresponds to the topic of "Early 20th century novel". But I'm a little bit afraid that The Fruit of the Tree is so long for us to finish. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 17:23, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Also but I think the other options suggested are better. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The Marne has been completed, and just needs validation now. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:19, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Option C

 * Wuthering Heights.
 * This July is Emily Brontë's 200th birthday, but we have only an unsourced edition of her masterpiece Wuthering Heights.
 * There is a transcription project started for the 1st edition: (Volume 1 transcription project, Volume 2 transcription project)
 * Note first that although there are many pages over two volumes, there is very little text per page and little formatting to be done, and second that this edition was published by T. C. Newby, who is renowned for poorly supervising the printing and correction of the novels that he published. This edition is no exception; it contains many errors. So we will need to make liberal use of SIC. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:16, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * , an important work and a worthy task, very timely. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I am confident we can pull this off in the month. I'll invest the time. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:38, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Option D
Frankenstein turns 200. We have someone else's 1831 version. Having something scan-supported would be worthwhile. Not that I have seen what scans are available. — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * to add the scan. Less timely than Bronte (Option C), since Frankenstein was published in January, but still a great option. I'd do this as second work after Bronte. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Although it's listed here I did some fairly extensive OCR cleanup on this earlier in the year. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * We have three different sets of scans (three editions). Which one is being nominated? --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:18, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * After some reflection, I have made a proposal below to change the October theme to fantasy/supernatural/horror fiction beginning in 2019, and to kick it off with this work. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:42, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Comment
We are well into the month. Can we just flip a coin and start on any one of these? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * My coin says option C. I've updated accordingly. Apologies to anyone who considers me to be stepping on their toes - or if I've missed a step. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 00:49, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Option A

 * Ecclesiastical History of the English Nation by the Venerable Bede
 * We don't have a copy of this work, which surprised me, but there is a ready to be started. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:20, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 15:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Option B

 * The Sikhs, by John James Hood Gordon (1904)
 * We have almost nothing on the religion, culture, or history of the Sikhs. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:09, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * , though per our discussion on WS:CC The Sikh Religion might be a better focus. Maybe we can do both at once as a coordinated Sikh-related effort? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 15:57, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I fear that doing two such works at the same time would divide the number of interested editors, and thus slow the progress of both. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:02, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , to expand representation of underrepresented cultures. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 15:20, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Option C

 * Polynesian mythology & ancient traditional history of the New Zealanders, as furnished by their priests and chiefs, by George Grey (1906) [1922 reprint]
 * I would back this as a second work. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:41, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Option D

 * The Religions of India -- Index:The_religions_of_India.djvu -- translation of French work <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ‽ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">SvG's revenge 00:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

September 2018
Being unable to find a suitable PotM work on WS:RT, I have moved the Natural History month forwards and chosen a work in a series we have already done several across other years. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

October 2018
See my proposal for July, Option D, above. Cheers! <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 22:33, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Shall we go ahead and do Frankenstein for the 200th anniversary, then? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 00:27, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Nothing else has been proposed for this month at present. I will be away from a computer at the time of changing over, so someone else will need to update the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Would that then be this source? Shenme (talk) 04:25, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * New PotM? Beleg Tâl, EncycloPetey, BD2412 : Beeswaxcandle said (above) they’d be gone for a bit, so I’m impertinently/expectantly em-pinging. Shenme (talk) 04:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The Fish volume isn't yet complete. Most of the images have been done yet. So we could either wait a while longer, or switch if there is an Index for something else ready to go. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, my time will be very tight until about mid-month, but I would really like to see the above proposed theme stick. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The first edition has already been fully proofread, though only the first volume validated. The 1831 edition technically has yet to be proofread against the scan, but is presumably from Gutenberg and has therefore been through a proofreading of some sort. If we're to pursue this we need to know which direction to proceed. We don't usually select works for PotM that are mostly or completely done. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Then we will finish it very quickly, and can then cross the bridge of selecting a second work. We already have Dracula. What else is good (and missing) in the eerie fiction genre? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 03:57, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe fill some of the gaps in Weird Tales (assuming scans are available)? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 11:32, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 00:57, 9 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Could someone update Template:PotM and Template:Collaboration? Beleg Tâl, the Weird Tales scans that have been uploaded but not edited are: 31(2), 32(5), 33(4), and 30(6). A large number have been uploaded as files but not as indices. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:22, 8 October 2018 (UTC).
 * If we finish the volume earlier than we would otherwise, we could validate some of the overflow works at little works. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC).
 * The Shelley work has been completely proofread, but not validated. If it is not opposed, I will mark the work as completed (from a WS:PotM perspective), recommend the book for validation at the WikiProject, and begin the next work (Weird Tales, 31(2)). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:44, 10 October 2018 (UTC).
 * Typically, we retain the current work until it is validated for PotM. If you are proposing a procedural change to PotM, this section is not the correct place to do so. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 * As I said, I can inform WS:WPV of the work, and they should be able to complete it by month’s end. As you said, I am not proposing a policy change, and, as can be seen by a number of recent previous works, the completion of works is not necessary. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC).
 * If WS:WPV wants to assist with the validation, then the work will be completed sooner and we can move on to the Weird Tales after that. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 00:38, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I’ve corrected the templates for Weird Tales, as Shelley’s Frankenstein has been completed; I choose volume 31, issue 2, from February 1938. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:41, 18 October 2018 (UTC).

Option A

 * United States Navy, from the revolution to date (1917)
 * An illustrated history of the US Navy to 1917.

Option B

 * The Journal of John Woolman (1871)
 * If we decide not to do a Great War item, this could be a good choice. John Woolman was a Quaker whose journal and essays had a huge impact in both the US and UK. We currently have none of his writings. The 1871 edition of his Journal seems to be the definitive edition. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:29, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I support removing the overly specific "Great War" theme and going with this. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 22:34, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * We have plenty of Novembers at our disposal before the 200th anniversary of the end of WW1. More than enough time for fresh new themes between now and then. The war ended 11 November 1918. I say it is significant enough to rate a PotM for this year. But if we do continue with a Great War theme, I propose we come up with a work that is not so narrow in scope as the above proposed (in option A). One that addresses the War itself, preferably one that is both objective and reflective, which may be difficult to find in public domain material published so close to the end of the War. I don't currently have a work in mind, but can look for options. I promise not to propose any works of poetry ;) Londonjackbooks (talk) 04:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Option C
As per my comment above in Option B, there is The War and the Future (1918) by John Masefield... a relatively short work, which could thereafter be replaced by some other work with either similar theme, or different (option B?). Londonjackbooks (talk) 04:55, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Just in case: Index:The War and the Future (Masefield, 1918).djvu— Mpaa (talk) 22:59, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

The intent of this subject is, as LJB says, to cover the centenary of the end of WWI, otherwise known as the Great War. The loss of ca. 16 million lives in that series of conflicts is something that should be acknowledged. We do this not to glorify war, but to remember those whose lives were sacrificed in the belief that the world would be a better place. There are several multi-volume works, which will be too big, so I've gone through looking for more concise works. I offer some further options (I will be, once again, away from a computer on 1 November, so someone else will need to update the templates): Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Pictorial History of the Great War], 1919
 * The Immediate Causes of the Great War], 1918
 * Mr. Punch's History of the Great War], 1919
 * A Short History of the Great War], 1920
 * My support to option C.— Mpaa (talk) 21:54, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * HathiTrust has a number of later works; In spite of hell; a factual story of incidents that occurred during World War I (1958) is one such work. There's "Great Soldiers of the First World War", but I'm not sure if the public domain label is correct.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:43, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I also support this option. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 19:13, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Option D

 * Confederate_Military_History/Volume_1
 * Index:Confederate Military History - 1899 - Volume 2.djvu
 * Index:Confederate Military History - 1899 - Volume 3.djvu
 * Index:Confederate Military History - 1899 - Volume 12.djvu
 * multi-volume work appeals to the southern US. <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ‽ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">SvG's revenge 23:02, 31 October 2018 (UTC)


 * It’s rather late in the month, but I think validating volume 3 truly and beginning to validate volume 1 wouldn’t be too difficult. Volume 3 only needs to have some images validated, while volume 1 is the most complete of the remainder. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 14:53, 24 November 2018 (UTC).
 * Never too late. But Punch has yet to be completely transcluded into the Main. Once that has been done, I say go for it, unless others disagree for any reason. I would set things up, but will be busy. Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:35, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I’ll update the templates now to reflect this. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:21, 26 November 2018 (UTC).

Option E[nough options]
Wow! I was hoping for a decision (or vote) at this late date, but we got more options! Mpaa set up the work in option C (The War and the Future), so I can set things up with that. It shouldn't take long to proofread. Can we get some feedback (decision rather than more options) on a follow-up work if the Masefield work is done early? Since BWC is not available to update the templates, I'll volunteer. Just please be patient as I muddle through. I've only done it once before. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 21:26, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Option A

 * Tales of To-day and Other Days, translated from the French (1891)
 * A collection of 10 short stories by 9 French authors, many of who have little or no representation on Wikisource at present. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I’d prefer this to the latter (In bad company and other stories), as the latter has already been completed in large part. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 18:23, 23 October 2018 (UTC).
 * If there are no objections, I’ll upload the scan for this work, and we can begin on the 1st. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 18:15, 30 November 2018 (UTC).
 * Already uploaded. I will put into the templates at the right time. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:47, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Option B

 * In bad company and other stories, a collection of 38 Australian short stories by Rolf Boldrewood from the turn of the 20th Century. There's quite a lot of Australian political and scientific works on WS from this era, but very little fiction. Thanks. CharlesSpencer (talk) 06:36, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Option C
For the second proofread of this month, if time there so likely is, I’d suggest the Gothic Stories ; it is very short, under 100 pages. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC).
 * As Option A has been completed, and this option (Option C) is far shorter than the other option (Option B), I shall upload this file, if there is no objection. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:03, 14 December 2018 (UTC).

January 2019

 * The History of Ink (109 pages) --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:50, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Old Castles: Including Sketches of Carlisle, Corby, and Linstock Castles; with a Poem on Carlisle, a shorter work (71 pp.) left over from the last two years. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC).
 * both of these —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:20, 29 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I’ve created the former as this, so that work may be completed on it whilst the plates from the latter are created. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 17:57, 16 January 2019 (UTC).
 * As another potential work, “The Examination and Confession of certain Witches at Chelmsford in the County of Essex” ; which includes the confession of Mother Waterhouse. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2019 (UTC).
 * as fourth work —Beleg Tâl (talk) 15:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It has been created here; an additional page was added at the end of the index, which I will remove in a short time. In all other matters, the index is normal. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 01:08, 24 January 2019 (UTC).
 * Whilst the text has been fully proofread and transcluded, although not yet validated, the transclusion is likely not the best. I ask anyone here if they would be able to provide a better alternative to the current system. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 03:19, 26 January 2019 (UTC).
 * Hand-book on Cheese Making (1889) 59 pp. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:56, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

February 2019

 * The Theory and Practice of Handwriting --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:53, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Japanese Wood Engravings --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:57, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I prefer the latter work, as its shorter and has fewer diagrams. They’re both rather short, however, and could be easily completed within a month. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC).
 * ✅ Both of these, with Wood Engravings first. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Other options:
 * A History of Japanese Colour-Prints –A longer work (194 pp. text), with a few images representative.
 * No djvu available on IA. The conversion tool is too inclined to add extra pages to be satisfactory for a non-personal project. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * A History of Wood-Engraving –A great work on an art quickly vanishing (~200 pp.).
 * Also no djvu available on IA. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Painting Illustrated in Three Diallogues . While there are a large number of pages (~350), their isn’t much text per page. The book is a great example of painting, and provides a great deal of information upon the subject.
 * This one isn't appropriate because of the long-s. Odd characters don't make for successful PotM works because we lose the drive-by editors and as a result lose the chance for people to potentially stay around. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:51, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The World’s Earliest Music, by Hermann Smith. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:25, 1 November 2018 (UTC).
 * Some pages missing in this scan (e.g. pp xii & xiii in the TOC). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The Arts and Crafts of Ancient Egypt, 2nd ed., 1910 by W. M. F. Petrie
 * If both the first two works above are completed in time, we'll take this one as a third work. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * all the above. The World's Earliest Music is the most interesting IMO. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 19:18, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's also the only suggestion not in the suggested theme for the month. Music is a "performing art" (class M), not one of the "fine arts" (class N). --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:39, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Whatever the decision, I’d like the work to be chosen and uploaded before the month begins, so that we may avoid the problem of last November. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 03:08, 30 January 2019 (UTC).
 * In the past when I've made a decision on the consensus early and uploaded the file quite a chunk has been done before it gets put into the templates. This is part of why I stopped doing the monthly awards for PotM. It was getting really messy to work out which contributions were entitled to an award and which weren't. The main disadvantage to the current system of uploading shortly before putting into the templates is managing damaged files. I assume that when people nominate a work that they have checked that the file they link has been checked for completeness. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:48, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * If it wouldn’t be too difficult, could we proofread “Certain Noble Plays of Japan?” It is a short work of under 50 pp. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC).
 * We could, but again, it would be outside the scope stated for this month. The performing arts are separate from the fine arts. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:04, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

March 2019

 * We really, really, REALLY need to find a scan of Ten Days in a Mad-House (1887) by Nellie Bly (aka Elizabeth Jane Cochrane). Our copy is incomplete, and I have not been able to locate a scan. This is a seminal work of journalism and human rights. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:37, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * i see it is on microfilm at LOC - https://lccn.loc.gov/ca10001909 Bly, Nellie, 1864-1922. Ten days in a mad-house, New York, J. W. Lovell [c1899] -- <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ‽ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">SvG's revenge 23:22, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * That would be a later reprint. I'm hoping we can locate a scan of the original work.--EncycloPetey (talk) 23:45, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * this one? [c1887] https://lccn.loc.gov/07038139 --<font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ‽ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">SvG's revenge 17:41, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * That should be the one, yes. Can we obtain a scan? --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:55, 27 February 2019 (UTC)


 *  by Willa Cather. A Pulitzer Prize winner that we do not have. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 19:22, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. I've gone with this one anent finding scans of Ten Days in a Mad-House. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:58, 1 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Felix Holt,, the only novel by George Eliot that we don't currently have; this year marks Eliot's 200th birthday. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 19:22, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The Stanford renewals database shows no renewal for Arthur Waley’s translation of Murasaki Shikibu’s The Tale of Genji, originally published 1935 . The work may still, however, be under copyright; if it is so, please redact this comment. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:48, 9 November 2018 (UTC).
 * Even if this is PD in the US (and I do not know whether it is), it will remain under copyright in the UK until 2036. Our UK proofreaders typically do not participate with items still under UK copyright, and we prefer to avoid selecting works for PotM that would disenfranchise participants. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

April 2019

 * The Plays of Roswitha by Hrotsvitha, translated by Christabel Marshall. These are the earliest known  dramatic works written by a woman. This translation was published in 1923, and so will enter PD in the US in 2019. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:44, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Cyrano de Bergerac (1897) famous play by Rostand; 1919 translation by Gladys Thomas & Mary Guillemard. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:06, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Poems by “Cushag” (1907), a wonderful, relatively short (~70 pp.) collection of Manx poems (in English). By “Cushag”; . We have so little in the way of scan-supported Manx literature on Wikisource, and this being one of Cushag’s longer works, it would be a nice addition. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:23, 7 October 2018 (UTC). ✅ --kathleen wright5 (talk) 06:41, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ as first work while the Copyright discussion for Roswitha is happening. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:42, 31 March 2019 (UTC)


 * all three of these, but especially interested in the Roswitha project —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:33, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I oppose The Plays of Roswitha for the reason User:EncycloPetey mentioned above for March 2019 (cf. here).
 * I have chosen Cyrano de Bergerac (here). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:16, 6 April 2019 (UTC).
 * The PotM and Collaboration templates should be updated to reflect this choice. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:26, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

May 2019

 * The Present State of Peru This one could also be done in July if we choose. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:20, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:01, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

June 2019

 * Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ by Lew Wallace. Out of all the entries on w:List of best-selling books, this is the only work that is in the public domain but is not hosted on enWS. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:34, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Not quite the only one, since we don't have Dream of the Red Chamber either, and Khalil Ghibran's The Prophet is at Bibliowiki until 2019 because of US copyright. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair, I didn't notice how woefully incomplete Translation:The Story of the Stone is. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Part of the problem is that no complete English translation was published until about 40 years ago. The longest English translation in PD translates only the the first 58 of the 120 chapters. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: Do we have an alternative? It looks like Ben-Hur might be completed before June. I suppose that we will still have Felix Holt left over from March as a possibility. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:12, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Have a look for a Walter Scott novel. I know you've been wanting us to do one for a while and this would be a good opportunity. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:40, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:13, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've selected Guy Mannering as the earliest red-link on Scott's page with an edition that matches for date and country of publication. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:01, 3 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Continuing with the theme of w:List of best-selling books, perhaps we can work on a translation of Dream of the Red Chamber? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:13, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Not worthwhile to do Dream of the Red Chamber, I think. The longest English translation in PD translates only the the first 58 of the 120 chapters. We'd end up with a permanently incomplete copy. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:40, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * War and Peace, translated by Louise and Aylmer Maude; the translation (of 1922–1923) has entered the public domain, and the copyright on the linked scan, if valid, was not renewed. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 19:27, 26 April 2019 (UTC).

July 2019

 * Index:Complete Works of Menno Simons.djvu, writings of an important Protestant reformer. Several extracts were uploaded to enWS in 2008, and it would be good to complete the collection. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

August 2019

 * Scans of the 1794 edition of The Lives of the Most Eminent English Poets are now online (Vols. 1, 2, 3, 4). All include fairly high quality embedded text from the original HathiTrust scans, although the use of the long-S form (ſ) periodically yields some inaccurate results, which will require careful human proofreading. Tarmstro99 18:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 20:10, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The formatting on this one is odd: quoted text indented with slight redcution in size and quotation marks at the beginning of each line, as just one example. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:58, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Orlando the Cat (talk) 03:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Biographia Hibernica: A Biographical Dictionary of the Worthies of Ireland (1821) is now online here, based upon newer HathiTrust scans that greatly improve upon the earlier versions and include high-quality embedded OCR (Vol. 1, Vol. 2). A few early entries from Vol. 1 may be ready for match-and-split. Tarmstro99 16:22, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:58, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ this because good OCR and no long-s characters, which never go well in PotM. Also Lives of Poets has a lot of already proofread pages. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:40, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

 * Index:Floating City (1904).djvu, a Jules Verne novel we don't have, with illustrations by Jules Férat (which are already available at Commons). --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:29, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:35, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * http://jv.gilead.org.il/evans/VerneTrans(biblio).html recommends the Henry Frith translation over this one. I can't find scans, but it is PD if we do.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:16, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * There's an EBay copy for a mere $224.25; I was starting to suspect it might be a copyright trap.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:34, 1 September 2019 (UTC)


 * If the preferred edition of the Verne is not found, I would recommend A Voyage to the Moon (1687) , by one of the earliest authors of science fiction (Cyrano de Bergerac). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC).
 * Index:Complete Works of Lewis Carroll.djvu - very long but funny. Nice and bizarre. I believe at least half of this will be permissible (the other half is poetry, letters, and short stories)? Orlando the Cat (talk) 03:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Now that Floating City is finished, could someone start on the next work? I would prefer the Cyrano de Bergerac, as the Lewis Carroll is too long. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 14:29, 21 September 2019 (UTC).
 * Neither of the linked scans of Voyage to the Moon are suitable, so I've selected a second Jules Verne work that already has scans uploaded here. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:13, 21 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Why were they unsuitable? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 18:23, 21 September 2019 (UTC).
 * a) pages are offset so that obverse and reverse are the wrong way round throughout; b) a Google scan, so automatically poor quality scans and OCR. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:46, 22 September 2019 (UTC)


 * This scan appears to have no serious issues with its OCR. In addition, I see no problem with the offsetting of the pages, as, when proofreading or validating the pages, you would only see one at a time. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:22, 22 September 2019 (UTC).
 * Offset pages is a problem when using clean-up scripts that depend on obverse pages being on the right and reverse pages on the left. There can also be problems with page-level metadata and transclusions. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:49, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2019

 * Possibly An Elementary Treatise on Optics by Henry Coddington GhostOrchid35 (talk) 02:12, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I support this work over the other. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:03, 1 October 2019 (UTC).
 * The work is now uploaded here. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:50, 2 October 2019 (UTC).
 * The Aquarium: an unveiling of the wonders of the deep sea (1854). This is the book that coined the word "aquarium" and popularized them. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:43, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Neither of these has a DjVu file on IA and the last time I used the IA-Upload tool to convert to DjVu it made such a mess that the file was not suitable for PotM. If either of these are wanted, then can someone please do a useful conversion of the jp2 file. Otherwise, please suggest other options. [I'm too jet-lagged right now to think straight enough.] Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:45, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Is there any reason why it has to be a DjVu and can't be a PDF? In any case, the previous POTM isn't done yet, so there isn't really much need to rush finding a new one. DraconicDark (talk) 19:50, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The templates are set up for DjVu only and PotM should demonstrate best practice. The previous PotM was completed mid-September. The work currently in the templates is a supplementary one. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Since this month’s work is, for the text, proofread, should the November work be started? Should the images be uploaded first? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:24, 13 November 2019 (UTC).
 * Theoretically, November's Proofread of the Month should be started, and should have been started even though October's wasn't done. However, for some reason, it hasn't been selected, with no reason why not. I messaged, who selected the past few Proofreads of the Month, about it on his talk page, but haven't gotten a response yet. I'm not sure who else could select the Proofread of the Month. DraconicDark (talk) 16:13, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

November 2019

 * Hausa Proverbs, by G. Merrick (132 pp.)
 * Note: Hausa is a language primarily of Niger and Nigeria. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:08, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Orlando the Cat (talk) 04:28, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Seems fine. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 03:10, 1 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Index:Optics.djvu Are you aware this Index has been validated, except for the Plates at the end?--kathleen wright5 (talk) 22:54, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, we are aware, but the issue is that no one seems to be able or willing to officially select the next PoTM. I'm not sure who other than can select it, but I haven't heard from them. In any case, I will upload the DjVU of Hausa Proverbs, and invite anyone who is willing and able to select it to do so. In the meantime, there is also this work if you want to proofread something related to this month's theme while you wait. DraconicDark (talk) 23:03, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I have now uploaded the proposed work, Hausa Proverbs, here. DraconicDark (talk) 23:52, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

December 2019

 * A Sportsman's Sketches, Ivan Turgenev's first major work. The Constance Garnett translation is PD, and only one of its stories is on Wikisource. (592 pp in 1920 ed.)  Alternately we can work from the pre-existing transcription projects of the 1895 edition at Index:The Novels of Ivan Turgenev (volume VIII).djvu and Index:The Novels of Ivan Turgenev (volume IX).djvu Kges1901 (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Orlando the Cat (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Index:Wells-plattner story and others-1897.djvu; one of two Wells we don't have. Orlando the Cat (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

List
I propose that all, or at the least, a large number of the works that are completed for PotM are works with scans not uploaded as part of PotM. The scan (Index:) system was created with the intent to reduce the number of abandoned works, works either unfinished or poorly done, in the main-space. However, this has created a new problem: a large number of abandoned indexes, with little to no work completed, remain forgotten in the Index namespace. There are already a large number of indexes listed on this page, and from links from this page, that would amicably fit with the requirements for PotM, and I suggest that we use some of the lists on this page to select works for proofreading.

January 2020

 * Any idea on what we're going to do for January? --Belle Sans Merci (talk) 01:48, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If you have a suggestion, now is the time to make it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I doubt my opinion matters, but The Placenta of a Lemur meets the standards of "quirky". And short! Avahi-logo.svg Lemuritus (purr or yap back) 02:12, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * We could also do Hand-book on cheese making . That one was suggested for last January, but wasn't chosen, and I uploaded and started it in the intervening months. DraconicDark (talk) 03:13, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Support doing both suggested relatively short works, in the order stated (Lemur, then Cheese making). I only regret that we can not combine them into a single work titled Hand-book on the Placenta of a cheese making Lemur. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 05:40, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * As I believe that there should be many works completed in January, I have made the following list of some potential works. Do not worry about the existence of a .djvu scan, as I can create one myself, and upload it to Commons.
 * 1) “A Few Plain Observations upon the Ends and Means, &c.” 48 pp.
 * 2) “The Real Cause of the High Price of Gold Bullion.” (Edward Cooke) 55 pp.
 * 3) “A Contribution to the Pathology of Phlegmasia dolens,” by Robert Lee. 24 pp.
 * 4) “A Short Account of the Botany of Poole,” by Thomas Bell Salter. 27 pp.
 * 5) “Description of the Abattoirs of Paris,” by Richard Boxall Grantham. 18 pp.
 * 6) “On the Application of Sewage in Agriculture,” by E. Haughton. 6 pp.
 * 7) “The Art of Modeling Flowers in Wax,” by George Worgan. 39 pp.
 * 8) “Fur and the Fur Trade,” by M. M. Backus. 13 pp.
 * 9) “Evisceration,” by A. E. Prince. 8 pp.
 * 10) “A Treatise on Medical Astrology,” by F. R. White et al. 70 pp.
 * The indexes for the above works have been created (the first one should be completed soon); proofreading can begin at any time. As the current work is already proofread, any of these works may be viewed as a part of the project; the templates will be updated once each work has completed validation. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:47, 1 January 2020 (UTC).
 * The proofreading finished, and the validation stalled, for the initial work, the ten works here listed shall be selected, in order. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:27, 4 January 2020 (UTC).
 * I support the "Lemur" book, and the seventh work above. Orlando the Cat (talk) 05:14, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * While “The Placenta of the Lemur” does seem interesting, I am worried about the large number of figures; past experience has shown reluctance to complete works that contain a large number of images. If User:Lemuritus can supply these images, or has them already produced, the work would be more acceptable. In addition, the plates mentioned at the end of the scan given would have to be sourced from a scan of the complete work, following which the plates must be attached to the existing scan. I would attempt to do this, if User:Lemuritus can display the images already mentioned. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:22, 30 December 2019 (UTC).
 * As there have been no objections raised to any of my suggested works, I will now convert them into .djvu files. If User:Lemuritus can positively respond before the month’s end, I will attempt to create “The Placenta of the Lemur” as a combined .djvu file. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC).
 * To be honest, I didn't even really look into the work, and my 256mb RAM severely crimps my ability to do much - even proofreading pages is quite intensive for my computer - so we can skip that one. Uploading is beyond my capabilities. On the other hand, is only two pages, two pages and four pages :) Lemuritus (talk) 02:32, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with User:TE(æ)A,ea.; my support for the "Lemur" book, too, is withdrawn (many apologies to the lemur-fans here involved!). Orlando the Cat (talk) 05:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC)


 * As we are nearing completion of the list of suggested works, and there is still time left in January, let me suggest another work; looking through the Index-Not Proofread category, I found Unlawful Marriage by J.J. Janeway, which seems to fit this month's category. DraconicDark (talk) 23:36, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I also found Wound infections and some new methods for the study of the various factors which come into consideration in their treatment as another suggestion. If these two suggestions aren't done this year, we could maybe consider them for next year. DraconicDark (talk) 00:04, 20 January 2020 (UTC)


 * After the last of the ten works that I suggested, I was going to upload a suggested work from 2018 that wasn’t acted upon, Analysis of the Organization of the Prussian Army. For Unlawful Marriage, the text is longer than modern January works, but not altogether displeasurable. As for the latter work, I believe there are too many illustrations for the work to be efficiently dealt with as a January selection. After any of these, I would insist that the active members validate some pages from the January work indexes that were left proofread due to inactivity; these are: Index:The Real Cause of the High Price of Gold Bullion.djvu and Index:A Short Account of the Botany of Poole.djvu. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:55, 20 January 2020 (UTC).
 * Looking back, I didn't put the Prussian Army suggestion in because it has multiple tables and side-notes. So, I would recommend caution with respect to selecting it. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:57, 20 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I am looking for more short works that have already been uploaded; I have found Index:Book of record of the time capsule of cupaloy (New York World's fair, 1939).djvu, which I recommend for the next selection, and also possibly Index:Common sense - addressed to the inhabitants of America.djvu, the text of which (Paine’s Common Sense) is not yet scan-backed. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:57, 21 January 2020 (UTC).
 * User:Chris55’s list of intermediate works seems a good place to find these indexes; I have already found Index:Notes on the Ornithology of Southern Texas.djvu, Index:Journal of the First Congress of the American Colonies (1765).djvu, and Index:William Blake in his relation to Dante Gabriel Rossetti (1911).djvu, among other less desirable options. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 19:30, 21 January 2020 (UTC).

February 2020

 * For February, I suggest A History of Wood-Engraving . The only objection raised to it last February was that there was no DjVU, and now one exists. DraconicDark (talk) 03:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: the DjVu exists, but there does not seem to be a text layer. If someone can run a bot to create OCR starter pages, then this could be a good choice. But without a text layer, we will have difficulty getting the work started. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:18, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The .pdf scan hosted on the Internet Archive Web-site has a high-quality text layer extant; it could manually transferred to the corrupted .djvu file we have. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:21, 30 January 2020 (UTC).
 * djvu text layer added and uploaded to Commons. Moondyne (talk) 02:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * A spot check verifies the text layer is present and showing up in the correct pages. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:37, 2 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Of the suggestions from last February which were actionable but upon which no action was taken, I prefer A History of Japanese Colour-Prints . The issue regarding the scan file can be readily resolved. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:21, 30 January 2020 (UTC).
 * One problem with the Japanese prints book is that it contains Japanese characters. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:30, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Nominated last year: The Arts and Crafts of Ancient Egypt, 2nd ed., 1910 by W. M. F. Petrie The downsides of this one are (a) lots of black-and-white photo prints that will need to be done (but on specific plate pages), and (b) the list of illustrations pages will be a multi-page table. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:23, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

March 2020

 * For March, I suggest Felix Holt by George Eliot. Again, we didn't do this one last time. DraconicDark (talk) 03:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

April 2020

 * For April, I suggest Chicago Poems by Carl Sandburg. DraconicDark (talk) 03:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Since "Chicago Poems" looks like a very short work, I suggest "The Ballads of Marko Kraljević" as a second work for the month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:23, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I support this. Orlando the Cat (talk) 00:19, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I would suggest Armenian Legends and Poems by Zabelle C. Boyajian; it has hardly been touched since its being uploaded in 2018. Plus, the poems/legends were compiled by a woman author. Orlando the Cat (talk) 05:14, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * We could also try Picture-Show by Siegfried Sassoon, which was, according to Wikipedia's list of literary events of 1920, first published a hundred years ago. Orlando the Cat (talk) 00:19, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thee is also Index:Twilight Hours (1868).djvu, by Sarah Williams. We have only one of her poems right now. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I would support starting with Chicago Poems, then going to Armenian Legends and Poems, then the rest in order if time allows. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

May 2020

 * In May, we could do The Geography of Strabo (Volume 1, Volume 2 , Volume 3 ). We don't currently have any of Strabo's work, which is among the earliest examples of geography I know of. DraconicDark (talk) 18:36, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Another thought: since the ban on Wikipedia in Turkey has now been lifted, perhaps we could find a cultural or archaeological work based on that region? Portal:Turkey has very little content. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)


 * If that's our justification, why not something about the Republic of Turkey, instead of the archaeological period?
 * https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001861422 has Turkey, by Arnold J. Toynbee and Kenneth P. Kirkwood; Toynbee is apparently on the outs of academic historians, but is still a big name. It has the 1924 Constitution in the appendix. The problem is, I doubt HathiTrust's copyright clearing on this; between Toynbee being British, and the number of attributions for reuse that need their own rechecking, I'd be hard for me to be really comfortable that it's PD. The English translation of the 1924 Turkish Constitution is from Political Science Quarterly, which apparently didn't renew, so that's probably clear.
 * https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.82592 is the Rebirth of History, by Clair Prince. It's 1923, so clearly PD, it has a decent scan on Archive.org (don't be confused by there being two, they seem to be the same) and a lousy Google scan on HathiTrust, and it's got a lot of detail about Mustafa Kemal Pasha, the father of the Turkish Republic.
 * Hathitrust has a couple books from the 1940s, but if we're dotting our i's (a bad phrase in the realm of Turkish) and crossing our t's on copyright, I'd wonder about non-renewal/URAA issues on maps and photographs, especially as one of those books thanks the Turkish Embassy for those.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Toynbee’s work on Turkey is in the public domain for U. S. publication and subsequent non-renewal. I don’t know which 1940s works you reference, but HathiTrust is generally very reliable as regards copyright of works. However, most works that are chosen are in the public domain by age rather than by U. S. non-renewal. Whilst I support Strabo’s work generally, I believe it may be too long due to the apathy of the project. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:53, 3 February 2020 (UTC).
 * If we want to proofread something related to Turkey, I have a few suggestions (note that these are more historical than geographical, but that shouldn't be a problem):
 * The Hittites, by Archibald Henry Sayce
 * Turkey and the Turks, by W.S. Monroe
 * Turkey, by James Baker
 * Turkey, by Stanley Lane Poole

Any of these that we don't do this year can always be revisited another year. DraconicDark (talk) 01:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * If we don't do The Hittites in May, we could try in July. It's looking as though we might not be able to get a scan of Huizinga's book. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:46, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

 * For June, I suggest War and Peace . Another work suggested before that wasn't done then. DraconicDark (talk) 03:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I cannot believe you have 400,000 works here and not this...it would definitely help the project and I would definitely help proofread. Lemuritus (talk) 18:52, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I also support this. Orlando the Cat (talk) 05:14, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

July 2020

 * If it's not done before July, I suggest Johan Huizinga's The Waning of the Middle Ages, transl. into English in 1924 . It's newly come into public domain in 2020 and is considered a seminal work on the culture of late medieval Europe. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:12, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The scan on IA seems to be an edition that was published in 1985, so it may not be suitable. I found a full scan on Google Books here. Is this one usable or not? DraconicDark (talk) 18:32, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks as though it might be, on a quick look. However, it would require someone to convert it to a DjVu file.  The PotM templates are all keyed to work with the DjVu format. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Xover has created a DjVu, and I have added a small scan link to the nomination line above. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:46, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 * If I may suggest something which could be useful both here and on WP, it would be The English Hymnal (1906). The lyrics only version would be relevant to articles about hymns over on WP; and this would prove doubly useful in that when someone decides to make the version with the music, a good portion of the work will already be done. RandomCanadian (talk) 02:20, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

August 2020

 * For August, I suggest A Biographical Dictionary of the Celebrated Women of Every Age and Country by Mary Matilda Betham. DraconicDark (talk) 03:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This looks like a challenging work. We do tackle some of these in PotM from time to time, but we'd likely need a clear style guide established ahead of time to make this one work. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:32, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Last year we got about 20 pages proofread in a similar work for the whole month. It's usually better to go for one or two books that focus on a single individuals. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:10, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If we're looking for shorter, simpler works to proofread, some of the works in the Eminent Women Series, a past community collaboration, haven't been fully proofread. Perhaps we could choose one or two from that list. What do you think? DraconicDark (talk) 21:16, 25 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Some suggestions for August if we don't want to do the challenging work:
 * Galileo Galilei and the Roman Curia, by Karl von Gebler
 * Napoleon, by T.P. O'Connor
 * The life of William Carey, shoe-maker & missionary, by George Smith
 * The Women Bonapartes, by H. Noel Williams (Volume 1, Volume 2 )
 * Margaret Fuller, by Julia Ward Howe
 * Saint Theresa of Avila, by Mrs. Bradley Gilman

Any of these that we don't do this year can be done another year, as always. DraconicDark (talk) 20:46, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * As it is now August, and last month’s work has been completed, a new work should be selected. I support the Biographical Dictionary listed above, but I would like other input; DraconicDark, EncycloPetey, and Beeswaxcandle, what are your opinions on what work or works should be proofread? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:43, 1 August 2020 (UTC).
 * I was the one who originally suggested the Biographical Dictionary listed above, so in principle, I support it. My second choice, should we not select it, would be either Margaret Fuller or Saint Theresa of Avila listed above. DraconicDark (talk) 16:16, 1 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Although I would certainly prefer some greater input from other proofreaders before I select the work, it is more important to start the work; if there are any objections, please quickly change the templates to a more preferable alternative. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:45, 2 August 2020 (UTC).

September 2020
The following discussion, originally placed under “October,” has been moved to “September,” as the themes for those months have switched.
 * For October, I suggest either Natural History: Mammalia or The aquarium: an unveiling of the wonders of the deep sea, both by Philip Henry Gosse. DraconicDark (talk) 03:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * See my comment for September 2020, above. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:24, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I support Natural History, Mammalia. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC).
 * I have selected The Aquarium, as the other work does not have a .djvu file readily available. However, a .pdf of the same has been uploaded here. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC).
 * Index:Natural History (1848).djvu. --Xover (talk) 17:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

October 2020
The following discussion, originally placed under “September,” has been moved to “October,” as the themes for those months have switched.
 * In September, we could maybe proofread another issue of Weird Tales, maybe Volume 1, Issue 1 or Volume 1, Issue 2 . DraconicDark (talk) 18:36, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I have previously proposed that we switch some of the themes around, and would propose here that switching September and October themes, and having this as an October theme, would be an ideal outcome. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 02:23, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I see no problems with this proposal, so have swapped the topics over. As someone who happily ignores hallowe'en (having a very steep drive deters the neighbourhood kids from coming to us), I never think of such things for myself. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:58, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I support the selection of an issue of Weird Tales, although I have no specific preference as to which of the aforementioned issues should be chosen. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC).

November 2020

 * Can I propose that November, "Language", be specifically a English-language work on a currently-endangered language, or one of the languages that boast(?) the smallest Wikipedia/Wikisource in their language? Might as well kill multiple birds. (Lemurs eat tamarinds, now you know!) Avahi-logo.svg Lemuritus (purr or yap) 01:39, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You can always propose a specific work for the year that meets inclusion guidelines. The best options include a link to a scan somewhere that we can upload, and which has been checked carefully in advance for problems. But we like to keep the most generalized topics for the monthly listings such as "Biography" or "Science". --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * In a rudimentary walk through the To Be Proofread works for books about less-commonly-taught languages, I've found a couple (along with current speakership from Wikipedia):
 * A handbook of the Cornish language (557 L2 speakers)
 * A Grammar and Vocabulary of the Language of New Zealand (I assume Māori?, "149,000 self-report some knowledge of the language")
 * Latvian self-taught for English speaking people (1.75 million speakers)
 * A Grammar of the Mahratta Language (83 million native speakers, 12 million L2)
 * A grammar of the Teloogoo language (82 million native, 11 million L2)
 * I would recommend the first two more than the others because revival attempts are in place for both Cornish and Māori. —Crocojim18 (talk) 20:05, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * "Revival attempt"??? Māori never died, and remains the primary language for sizeable number of New Zealanders. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for bringing this up. I don't know a lot about Māori and was saying this purely based on this section of the Wikipedia page. Sorry for the mistake. Crocojim18 (talk) 23:58, 29 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The number of native speakers is not, by any means, “sizeable;” it is merely .002 of the population, disregarding the (lest prevalent) diaspora. The revival referred to a rising popularity in the learning of the language, as it is not fluently spoken by many of the tribe. See also the Wikipedia article, Māori language revival. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:21, 30 January 2020 (UTC).
 * I support all of these works, as they have been already uploaded; however, I oppose the last two, due to the presence of non-Latin scripts used for writings the named languages. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:17, 24 December 2019 (UTC).
 * An etymological dictionary of the Scottish language vol 1 vol 2  -- <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ⚔ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">Rama's revenge 23:01, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I also support the first two options proposed by Crocojim18, preferring the Language of New Zealand, as less work over all has been done on it. (not sure if one has been chosen yet) Blue-ray656 (talk) 19:59, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Please don't use the Language of New Zealand book for PotM. The scan is faulty and the alternative on IA is worse. If you want to do a Māori language book, then the third edition of Maunsell's Grammar of the New Zealand Language is good. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:25, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I haven’t noticed the faulty pages you references; but would this scan be an effectual alternative? If this work is unable, I would prefer the Latvian work first, as it is shorter, followed by the Cornish work. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC).
 * Interesting that it's the same print copy, but a far superior scan. Compare the obverse pages from print page 157 onwards. In our IA downloaded version, characters are swallowed into the binding, while in the Hathi version they're all clear of the margin. If you're able to get a djvu file out of the Hathi and load it over the top of the current version in Commons, then it's good to go. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:07, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * DjVu updated. The OCR is a bit rubbish (not obviously worse than the HT OCR). The Google OCR button generally does a better job on the accents. :-) Inductiveload— talk/contribs  00:58, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

none of these works are truly what we would aim to be proofread of the month material. They have complex formatting which leads to scaring off newbies and variable formatting that usually needs extensive re-formatting, and scaring off newbies. — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Seeing as how the October work is mostly finished, I think the November work should be quickly chosen; however, I will leave the choice to another Wikisourceror, as I have already given my opinion on the above choices. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:40, 3 November 2020 (UTC).


 * How about Index:Studies in Lowland Scots - Colville - 1909.djvu, which ties in with the brouhaha over scoWP and is not too short or hugely long, but not that complex in terms of formatting, accents or scripts? Inductiveload— talk/contribs  13:41, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks fine. Will probably need a little guidance for the glossary, but that shouldn't be too hard. — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:53, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * looks like it'll cover it. Inductiveload— talk/contribs  15:02, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

December 2020

 * The collection Brazilian Tales (1921) contains stories by Machado de Assis (d. 1908) . He is considered the greatest of Brazilian writers, and we have nothing from him at present. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:26, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I support this. Orlando the Cat (talk) 05:14, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I also support this. It's in one location, we just need it copied to transcription pages.
 * Support: Imported: Index:Brazilian Tales - de Assis tr. Goldberg - 1921.djvu
 * This already exists and is validated Brazilian tales.  Inductiveload— talk/contribs   20:42, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * For December, perhaps A Sportsman's Sketches (alternatively here and here) by Ivan Turgenev would be good; it wasn't featured for December 2019's Proofread, and this book is especially important for our collection of Russian literature because it was Turgenev's first major work. Orlando the Cat (talk) 05:14, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, getting both volumes done might be a stretch, but the pages aren't very densely typed. Inductiveload— talk/contribs  12:58, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Inductiveload: The proofreading of the current work is now mostly finished, with the exception of the glossary; should the templates be changed to this work? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:22, 2 December 2020 (UTC).
 * The proofreading is now entirely finished, and I have updated the templates accordingly. One question: Should the works be listed as “chapters” (or similar, as appropriate) or by their names? I have done the former as a start, but the latter might be preferable here. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 03:07, 5 December 2020 (UTC).

Books parked for consideration

 * Noting the list at the top of the page too
 * Ireland and England in the past and at present (1919) written c. independence UToronto copy — billinghurst  sDrewth 
 * How about Index:How They Succeeded.djvu? Looks pretty easy to proof, and is an interesting history of entrepreneurship in the US in the late 19th century. —Spangineer (háblame) 15:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I would be happy with this being in the rotation. It's medium length, but the typography is easy, so it should be doable to get it validated in a month.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color:#FF0000;font-size:small;text-decoration:none" size="2" color="#ff0000">(Talk) 20:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Amusements in Mathematics by Henry Ernest Dudeny. In an effort to find some popular public domain publications for inclusion here at WS, I found that the HTML version of this book is the most-downloaded text at the Internet Archive. Plus, someone has already gone to the trouble of extracting and cleaning the images . There is a tiny amount of text cut off on pages 63-64, but the missing letters can be determined from context and from the Archive.org HTML version --Eliyak T · C 22:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I've noticed that we're missing Samuel Johnson's The Lives of the Most Eminent English Poets. We have a scanty copy that was abandoned shortly after it was begun in 2006, with only two of the minor poet biographies included.
 * Pros:
 * (a) It's a key work of a great English writer;
 * (b) Johnson's text will be fun to read;
 * (c) It will add biographies of several writers.
 * Cons:
 * (a) It's in multiple volumes, so we might have to start with just the first one and see what transpires;
 * (b) There will be many uses of long-s and the like;
 * (c) We may not be able to get a first edition to work from, and I'm not sure that I could find a complete set of a single edition in IA.

Would a work of this sort ever be a good selection for PotM, and why or why not? --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * EncycloPetey, et al, we could take one or more per month not as PoM but as something yet to be finished every month starting with the easiest and shortest texts that are not complicated to work on. For that we should have a different kind of an award, perhaps the only the image of "The Thinker" to be used. I like collecting the awards, it shows achievements as well as the dates show the years we are here working and the icon shows our work - again using only something like "The Thinker. It separates everything from PoM. It is an obvious aside from PoM. Poms are often slow anyhow so that gives us time and the PoM’s often also, well…..I dislike this word but to convey the idea, often SUCK and are boring chosen by a few, so I typically, these days, only do one or a few pages in them. I am working on 9 thick and illustrated volumes of Cassell’s Illustrated London but I would step aside and do pages on "The Thinker" (or any other icon but the same icon to stand out, each time so as not to get it mixed up with PoM. and I would expect an award for working on those extra "abandoned books" books. Something along these lines of thought. Feel free to modify. —Maury (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * EncycloPetey, I think the idea of finishing "abandoned books" is a very good idea. I am working on two of them now. If we all did this together we could finish them up quick and add them to our library here. THESE should be "Proofreads of the Month" instead of finding more before we have finished these sitting here.. —Maury (talk) 21:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Maybe creating some sort of WikiProject regarding these abandoned or unfinished texts might be a way to get more attention to them? That project could then be listed as the existing community collaboration. Having said that, I think it might be a good idea. John Carter (talk) 16:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


 * John Carter (have you met any Terminators yet?) I figure the "abandoned books" have to have an attraction and many people like earning awards - especially "Special Awards", ["build it and they will come";] use that and they will come. —Maury (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you meant John Connor there. :) Having said that, is there any sort of page indicating the "progress bar" or similar out on the various indexes which have been started to date? Also, maybe, having something on the community portal listing the number of completed indexes might help too. And, of course, like you said, some sort of "award" or w: Wikipedia:Barnstar available for such might be useful. Do we have any such yet here? John Carter (talk) 18:15, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * (gone to Mars yet?) I think this is a great idea. I'd participate even without a reward.  Is it started yet(speaking of John Carter, are the books on him on wikisource)?  JustinCB (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think those in the public domain are but not all are PD yet. So far as I know though the bot generating progress bars doesn't exist yet. I hope those were the answers you sought.John Carter (talk) 00:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Author:John Lloyd Stephens (listed on en WS)
Author:John Lloyd Stephens wrote several grand books and they are illustrated. Let us choose something a bit more exciting lest we have an *another* unfinished work. —Maury (talk) 18:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

The Tale of Old Mortality
We don't have Walter Scott's The Tale of Old Mortality, which shocked me. Actually, we have very few works by him at all, despite his stature as an English writer, but The Tale of Old Mortality (or simply Old Mortality) is considered one of his best novels, and is a pretty high-profile English novel for us to be missing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


 * EncycloPetey, what is the url for the version you have found? I wish to look at it. —Maury (talk) 22:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, to clarify first off (if you didn't know), Old Mortality is one in a series of loosely associated novels collected under the title Tales of My Landlord, though each is an independent story and novel. Of the first four volumes that make up "series 1", volumes 2 through 4 are Old Mortality (volume 1 is a separate story entitled The Black Dwarf).  So, here then are the first edition (1816) volumes: Vol. II, Vol. III, Vol. IV. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposal of Proofreading Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal Series in 2019
Currently, I'm not enrolled in the Proofread of the Month project, but I noticed the Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal series is currently not even proofread, and it consists of a large number of pages to work on. I've proofread some of the content, but I think this should be done with others. (Link of Volume 29 of the series, which I currently am working on) Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:20, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That's a lot to do in a single month, and with complicated formatting. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * @EncycloPetey I know, but I think we can do some volumes first (like Volume 1 or 29). Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:25, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Even single volumes have complicated tables and lots of diacriticals. Works such as those usually do not attract as much participation, and remain incomplete at the end of the month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
 * The lack of an text layer in the file is of concern and rules out a PotM collaboration for the time being. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:42, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Note: I'm now enrolled in the project now, so feel free to contact me. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposal to revise monthly categories for October and November
I propose that beginning next year (2019), we revise the monthly categories by eliminating "The end of the Great War" (which was topical when we were approaching the 100th anniversary of WWI, but will no longer be topical in 2019), and replace it by moving "Natural History" from October to November, and making October another fiction category, but with a focus on the fantastic (fantasy, horror, science fiction, and the supernatural). My initial thinking was to make October something more of a Halloween theme, but I realize that Halloween is not universally observed, nor is it observed the same way everywhere. Nevertheless, these themes are broadly associated with October, and I think this would be a good new tradition. I would propose starting with Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, as proposed for a different month above. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Up until this year November has been designated as Validation Month—a month in which to catch up on validating several works. However, last year we completed no works, so as a one-off I went for the Great War. I've been trying to keep a broad range of domains covered in PotM and have hence kept fiction to only a couple of months each year. However, if people feel that we can sustain a third one and not have other domains lose out, then by all means we can put the fantastic into October in addition to the other two. We also need to decide if we want to restore Validation Month in 2019. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:31, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware that the change was that recent. I would think that December would be a better validation month, since it is the end of the year, and seems like a time for cleaning up after ourselves. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 01:36, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * We might consider separating the Validation Drive from the PotM, and having its section on the Main Page year-round. Pick and list three works separately from the PotM (maybe listed below), and rotating a new work in once one is finished. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:59, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Validation of the Month? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 18:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I prefer the idea of having three current titles to a single one set to rotate on a monthly basis. That way it's less formal and people have options to select from. Validation can happen at any pace, but stating that one work is "for the month" restricts what we validate. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:09, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That is reasonable. A "validation month" is always less fun than starting a new work from the ground up. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 03:25, 9 July 2018 (UTC)


 * On a related issue, I suggest broadening "natural history" to "science / natural history". --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I would support that change also. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 01:36, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Moved from November 2019
I have changed this year’s November proofreading to validation so that WS:PotM can validate all of the works that it has started in previous years. The works are: Index:Life of Octavia Hill as told in her letters.djvu (May 2012); Index:The European Concert in the Eastern Question.djvu (September 2012); Index:The Botany of the Antarctic Voyage.djvu (June 2014); Index:Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857.djvu (March 2015); Index:The Fauna of British India, including Ceylon and Burma (Birds Vol 1).djvu (July 2016); Index:The Mythology of the Aryan Nations.djvu (August 2016); Index:Plutarch - Moralia, translator Holland, 1911.djvu (September 2016); Index:Savage Island.djvu (May 2017); Index:The Boy Travellers in the Russian Empire.djvu (May 2017); Index:Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1892).djvu (September 2017); Index:Modern poets and poetry of Spain.djvu (April 2018); Index:Weird Tales volume 31 number 02.djvu (October 2018); Index:In bad company and other stories.djvu (December 2018); Index:Cather--One of ours.djvu (March 2019); Index:Cyrano de Bergerac.djvu (April 2019); Index:The Present State of Peru.djvu (May 2019); Index:Guy Mannering Vol 1.djvu (June 2019); Index:Complete Works of Menno Simons.djvu (July 2019); Index:Biographia Hibernica volume 1.djvu (August 2019); Index:Kéraban the Inflexible Part 1 (Jules Verne).djvu (September 2019); Index:Optics.djvu (October 2019); Index:Wells-plattner story and others-1897.djvu (December 2019); Index:Eliot - Felix Holt, the Radical, vol. I, 1866.djvu (March 2020). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:27, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
 * We used to do that every November, but declining participation led us to switch to a topic for November instead of validation. See the previous discussion on this issue below, wherein we concluded that Validation is no longer popular for PotM, since the last time we did it we validated no works that month. I have therefore changed it back on the basis of the prior community discussion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I changed the topic for precisely that reason: the previous disinterest, or whatsoever caused the numerous works above to not become validated, would be greatly aided by a dedicated effort to cause those indexes to be so validated. This would forgo the need to create another index for proofreading and validation, as is the usual. The discussion has not been concluded, and your personal opinion on the matter should not influence the community’s decision; as the sole contributor to that discussion that was in favour of the alteration was you. The results of previous validation months are irrelevant, as this one is specifically dedicated to finishing works already selected for WS:PotM. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
 * You misunderstand. The community discussed this issue and came to a consensus. Please do not unilaterally seek to override community consensus, but seek to change the community's opinion first. You have misinterpreted the discussion if you came away thinking that I was the sole contributor in favour of the alteration, or indeed that I was even in favour of the change. I neither proposed nor supported the change; in fact I made some suggestions concerning possible retention of the Validation month. Please re-read the discussion and re-open if you like, but changing the calendar against consensus is inappropriate.


 * The current 2019 Calendar was proposed by Beeswaxcandle, and BD2412 proposed changes for 2019 back in 2018. BD2412 and I agreed with Beeswaxcandle that the prior Validation month pattern was not successful and discussed the possibility of a separate Validation of the Month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have yet to note where the community has so come to this consensus of which you speak. The discussion has not been closed; therefore, no consensus can be derived from the discussion that it contains. I have started a discussion here as an effort to inform the community of this problem and to propose the use of a previously-implemented activity as a solution to that problem. I would also like for you to not revert my comments on this discussion, so as the community may be so informed of my proposal. If you wish to create a larger discussion on the matter, you may do so wherever you believe that such a discussion would be appropriate. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:47, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
 * Wikisource does not formally close discussions in most of its pages; Featured texts, Deletions & Copyright issues are the only three fora where discussions are formally closed. Discussions that have sat idle for more than a year without comment and in which all participants were agreed are assumed to be resolved. If you would like to enact a change different from what Beeswaxcandle has proposed (and which I agree with), then you should wait for further responses before enacting changes. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The discussion hasn’t had a comment in approximately three months, and not all of the participants came to an agreement. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
 * Three months, yes, sorry. But the question raised was "Do we want to restore Validation month?" and no one spoke in favor of doing so. The discussion instead turned to have a separate Validation project distinct from PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:02, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * One month of inactivity is sufficient. SpBot archives discussions that have been inactive for one month on the forums where it is active. In the discussion below, there was no disagreement to retire validation month, and no disagreement to implement a monthly validation, over the period of a month, so we can consider consensus to have been established. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:42, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I continue to agree that a separate "Validation of the Month" would be more fruitful. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 23:23, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Validation of the Month logistics
Per the discussions above, there is consensus to have a Validation of the Month instead of using November's PotM for validation. I've accordingly started Validation of the Month and I encourage the community's input regarding the logistics of the change. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * My only concern: Of course, every stage of the proofreading process should be performed with care, and not casually. But particularly so during the validation stage. It should not be treated, imo, merely as a second proofread, but with a meticulous eye focused on the minute details as well as on the work as a whole—particularly when it comes to formatting consistency throughout an entire text. This is more difficult to achieve with "drive-by" validation (which a VotM, or even validation month can unwittingly encourage). Not sure how this can be addressed necessarily. Just thinking out loud. Londonjackbooks (talk) 19:07, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * P.S. It concerns me as well when I see almost-immediate validation of pages during the course of a PotM, knowing that having multiple contributors will likely lead to multiple formatting practices (even if/when guidelines are listed on an Index:Talk page). One sees green, and one assumes done... but perhaps not done with a high (consistent/holistic) standard. Londonjackbooks (talk) 19:26, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


 * This can be one reason to establish a separate Validation group, who can support each other and train newer arrivals in Validation practices. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * We also need to be sure that works proposed for validation are ready for validation. Not every work that goes through POTM has had every page created, even. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 04:09, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * VotM would not have to be limited to works from PotM. Other proofread works requiring Validation could be selected. --EncycloPetey (talk) 12:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Just picking up on the thought in the previous section on putting up a few works that require validation and rotating those as required. This would be my preference rather than putting up a single work. For the mainpage, we would need to maintain a template within the VotM space and then transclude it. Some possible wording as a starter: "These texts need another pair of eyes to check they have been proofread correctly. See How to Validate." We have an ever-growing list of works that people believe are ready for Validation at Proofread of the Month/validation works. When updating the list of four works that are on WS:PotM I've been selecting from this list and trying to cover a range of domains at the same time so that validators might have something of interest to them. The other source of works ready for Validation is Category:Index Proofread. The caution with both of these sources is that they haven't been checked that they really are ready for Validation. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC)


 * We could use that as a starting point... I've created Template:VotM using that directly for now. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:48, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Contest scores
Just as an experiment I added January PotM's index pages to the wscontest tool and these are the results: https://tools.wmflabs.org/wscontest/c/10 —Sam Wilson 08:07, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

January 2021 (Quirky)
Are we going to line some new things up, or are we going to default back to The Placenta of a Lemur? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 19:56, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


 * No objections: it is now indexed at Index:Quarterly Journal of Microscopical Science - New Series - Volume 61.pdf, starting at page 171.
 * Note, the plates are tightly bound, so we probably can't reconstruct the gutter from this scan: n540, n541, n544, n545, etc. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 21:43, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * What would possess them to draw across the fold like that? Didn't they know someday someone would need to scan this on a futuristic piece of machinery? <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 22:24, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Particularly frustrating as QJMS has really nice and unusual illustrations. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 22:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I have some suggestions, similar to the ones I produced last year; some can be replaced, if desired. They are as follows:
 * “Appeal to the Wealthy of the Land,” 44 pp.
 * “Attainder of Treason and Confiscation of the Property of Rebels,” 44 pp.
 * Loves Garland, 118 pp.
 * “Muscles and Regions of the Neck,” 28 pp.
 * “Notes Upon the Owners of the ‘Sancy’ Diamond,” 44 pp.
 * “Notices of Roman Inscriptions Discovered in Northumberland,” 60 pp.
 * “On the Character, Properties, and Uses of Eucalyptus globulus and Other Species of Eucalyptus,” 18 pp.
 * “A Physical and Topographical Sketch of the Mississippi Territory, Lower Louisiana, and a Part of West Florida,” 42 pp.
 * A Prospect of Manchester, 101 pp.
 * “Remarks on the British Quarantine Laws,” 44 pp.
 * I have not thoroughly checked over these, so that should be done before any one is selected. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:57, 28 December 2020 (UTC).
 * Whatever else we do, we should definitely include “Remarks on the British Quarantine Laws” - that's timely. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 18:55, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * We'll need a djvu version rather than pdf. The PotM templates assume djvu file extensions. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * With a million or so IA PDFs now at Commons, might be worth fixing the template instead? DJVU is great and all, but sometimes it's just a hurdle when the PDF exists at Commons and is readable and has OCR? That said, we might get paragraph breaks in the DJVU OCR soon, and AFAIK, PDF doesn't do that). Inductiveload— talk/contribs 16:06, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I have checked all of the works I listed (excepting the “Remarks,” as it was already created); they are intact, although the Google information page will need to be stripped from A Prospect. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:53, 1 January 2021 (UTC).
 * Work should start on these works as soon as possible; they should thus be added to the appropriate templates as soon as possible. Inductiveload, can you upload a DJVU of this file? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:29, 2 January 2021 (UTC).
 * I have done so. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 01:09, 3 January 2021 (UTC).
 * The first work for the month has been fully proofread; have the others been uploaded to Commons yet, and when do we start on those? DraconicDark (talk) 17:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I set up Index:Attainder of treason and confiscation of the property of Rebels - 1863.pdf, since it was already at Commons. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 23:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I uploaded the DjVU for Appeal to the Wealthy of the Land to Commons and created the index page, which I linked above. DraconicDark (talk) 23:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've advanced it to Index:Appeal to the wealthy of the land.djvu. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 21:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , I finished Appeal to the Wealthy of the Land. Can you decide the new PotM and update the template? by the way, it is March now. AnotherEditor144 t - c 08:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

February (Fine arts)

 * For February, I suggest we do either A History of Japanese Colour-Prints . or The Arts and Crafts of Ancient Egypt, both of which were nominated in past years but not done then. DraconicDark (talk) 21:58, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I support Colour-Prints, if the images may be reliably obtained. I oppose all works below as impermissible, with the exception of Bryan's, which I object to on account of its length. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC).
 * I support Colour-Prints and I agree with . AnotherEditor144 t - c 10:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * American painters of yesterday and today
 * American painters : with eighty-three examples of their work engraved on wood
 * American painting and its tradition : as represented by Inness, Wyant, Martin, Homer, La Farge, Whistler, Chase, Alexander, Sargent
 * William Callow, R. W. S., F. R. G. S.
 * A history of painting, vol 1
 * A history of painting, vol 3
 * Index:Bryan's dictionary of painters and engravers, volume 1.djvu
 * Index:Bryan's dictionary of painters and engravers, volume 5.djvu -- Slowking4 ⚔ Rama's revenge 02:03, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , it is March, so this is probably irrelevant. AnotherEditor144 t - c 08:09, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

March (Woman's history)
Proposed: the 1925 Anita Loos novel Gentlemen Prefer Blondes has just entered the public domain. <font style="background:lightgreen">BD2412 T 00:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I support this work. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC).

Index:The part taken by women in American history.djvu Index:History of Woman Suffrage Volume 1.djvu Index:History of Woman Suffrage Volume 2.djvu Index:History of Woman Suffrage Volume 3.djvu Index:History of Woman Suffrage Volume 4.djvu Index:History of Woman Suffrage Volume 5.djvu Index:History of Woman Suffrage Volume 6.djvu Index:Women of the West.djvu -- Slowking4 亞 Rama's revenge 23:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)


 * It's decision time. BD2412  T 02:07, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I like Gentlemen Prefer Blondes if someone has that ready.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I support this work. AnotherEditor144 t - c 11:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's ready at Index:"Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" - Anita Loos.pdf. The OCR layer seems decent enough. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 12:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought the templates required a DjVu and could not support a PDF? --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Not any more. Attainder of Treason was a PDF too. I've made the change since we're overdue, we missed the whole of February and it's 4:0 in favour. Plus it's short and fairly easy, so maybe we can close out Index:The part taken by women in American history.djvu at the end. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 09:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Gentlemen Prefer Blondes is fully proofread, and largely validated, with the exception of images. Once that is finished, I would recommend Women of the West as the next work. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 17:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC).
 * Maybe, finishing The part taken by women in American history.djvu and then something non-USA focused? I like the approach of using this series to complete and validate texts rather than starting from scratch which can be harder for inexperienced volunteers. Languageseeker (talk) 20:19, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That work is mostly proofread anyway, but the index is not proofread; that will take some time to complete. I think choosing another work, perhaps a work of a famous woman author, would be better. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 14:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
 * I picked that one precisely because it’s so close to being done. It’s a huge work and finishing it during this month would be a great way to celebrate women in herstory. Languageseeker (talk) 18:30, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The proofread/validation for Gentlemen Prefer Blondes is done, and since we still have 2/3 of the month left, I Women of the West, second choice The part taken by women in American history. 3rd choice something not on this list (those History of Women Suffrage volumes seem too unwieldy for a mid-month replacement). Clay (talk) 15:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have promoted Women of the West, because it seems like we have the velocity to get through it. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 15:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
 * In case we get through 'Women of the West', might I suggest Index:Mrs. Siddons (IA mrssiddons00kennrich).pdf because it has really good text and is part of the Community Collaboration of the Month? It shouldn't take too long to mark up and post. Languageseeker (talk) 01:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Or we could do Index:Pioneer work in opening the medical profession to women - autobiographical sketches (IA b28145227).pdf which is the autobiography of Susan Blackwell one of the first women in medicine. It mostly needs formatting. Languageseeker (talk) 16:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

April (Poetry / Drama)

 * author:Edwin Arlington Robinson
 * Index:Collected poems Robinson, Edwin Arlington.djvu
 * The Torrent and the Night Before (1896)
 * Captain Craig; a book of poems (1915)
 * The Man Against the Sky; a book of poems (1916)
 * Merlin (1917)
 * The Town Down the River (1920)
 * The Children of the Night (1921) <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ⚔ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">Rama's revenge 23:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The Works of Anne Bradstreet (1867 ed.). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC).
 *  Tolkein's Sir Gawain and the Green Knight Languageseeker (talk) 05:21, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * This is an interesting work, but the body uses too many unusual characters for this to be a good choice. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 14:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC).
 * One of the 3 major works from the Harlem Renaissance. It's a great way to honor the contribution that African-Americans have made to English literature.
 * Index:An anthology of verse by American Negroes
 * Index:Negro poets and their poems (IA negropoetstheirp00kerl).pdf
 * Index:The book of American negro poetry.djvu Languageseeker (talk) 02:04, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Negro poets and their poems, mainly because it has the longest author bios and also has pictures. Clay (talk) 18:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

May (Geography)

 * For May, I suggest Madagascar by J. W. Phelps. DraconicDark (talk) 19:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Index:Madagascar - Phelps - 1883.djvu. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 17:35, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Why this work? Languageseeker (talk) 18:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Nominating History of the Expedition Under the Command of the Captains Lewis and Clark (1814) Languageseeker (talk) 18:57, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * or the account one of the other party members wrote Languageseeker (talk) 19:04, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

June (Fiction: Novel)

 * The Great Gatsby in the news, , gutenberg here ; web1.0 editions here: , , , , , ,  <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ⚔ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">Rama's revenge 01:36, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * greatgatsby0000unse_c4w8 uploaded at Index:The Great Gatsby - Fitzgerald - 1925.djvu (the only one available from the IA not in the "borrowing library"). And it doesn't have a copyrighted intro. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 16:06, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have moved this discussion to June, as that month features novels; I certainly think that this work should be proofread. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:39, 1 January 2021 (UTC).
 * I see that Phe-bot is creating the pages, but there are many, many errors in punctuation, and even in the text included on the page. Especially words at the start or end of a page are incorrect, or missing, or are from a neighboring page. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:07, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That's common for match and split (it can get confused by hyphenations and sometimes loses track slightly), it's why the pages are created "red" rather than "yellow". Inductiveload— talk/contribs 17:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * But that only happens when the text is being imported from a separate source instead of using the text layer in the source file. That's why match-and-split is done from a proofread copy, not for a newly added work. For a newly added work, the text layer of the file should be used, becuase editors of different editions make different editorial changes. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:35, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It's coming from the PG copy, which is almost right except for some very minor differences. It's definitely closer to what's on the page than the raw OCR. It needs checking in any case. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 17:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * But those are the sort of differences that WS proofreaders don't expect. For example, you've proofread page 11, but there is still some punctuation missing that is present in the scan.  OCR text generally isn't missing punctuation, so we're not in the habit of carefully checking it.  Since the text comes from an external source and has gone through PG editorializing, we need to pay careful attention to the punctuation beyond what we normally do. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:48, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * it will be done by June, so don't bother putting it in the queue. <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ⚔ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">Rama's revenge 23:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * And EncycloPetey's prophecy came true: look at the punctuation errors on page 11 that got past the validator. BethNaught (talk) 23:20, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * gutenberg copy editing is different, (checking punctuation, small caps, italics, dashes, and page breaks) and we should be welcoming to the newbies (or forgetful outsiders) who are attracted to the "in the news" works. <font face="Vijaya">Slowking4 ⚔ <span lang="de-Latf" style="font-family:UnifrakturMaguntia, UnifrakturCook, Unifraktur, serif">Rama's revenge 13:44, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Phe-bot is not run by newbies. The issue isn't about welcoming newbies, it's about setting them up for failure with a flawed text from the get-go. If we want to have a Gutenberg edition, then it should be added as a Gutenberg edition, not entered under the misleading guise of the text from a scan. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * For June, since The Great Gatsby appears to already be finished, I suggest Manhattan Transfer by John Dos Passos, another novel that entered the public domain this year. DraconicDark (talk) 18:54, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * We have none of his novels at the moment, which is a tragedy. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The novel is now at Index:Manhattan Transfer (John Dos Passos, 1925).djvu. AnotherEditor144 t - c 08:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Since there are so many great novels from 1925, I was thinking about making June a month to celebrate the major novels that entered the PD in 1925. I've created several list here and I'm working at creating Indexes for all of them. It'll be a great way to prepare for some summer beach reading. Languageseeker (talk) 02:07, 23 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Index:Manhattan Transfer (John Dos Passos, 1925).djvu promoted since it's the only one that was supported. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 10:37, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

July (Anthropology, Mythology, or Religion)

 * I suggest a book on Shinto. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:14, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Shinto: the way of the gods by W. G. Aston
 * ✅ Promoted since this is the only topic with a support: Index:Shinto, the Way of the Gods - Aston - 1905.djvu Inductiveload— talk/contribs 00:46, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Occult Japan by Percival Lowell.


 * Index:The Gospel of Râmakrishna.djvu -- Slowking4 ⚔ Rama's revenge 13:34, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That work has already been proofread. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of a work on Shinto. I think that's different from anything we've covered before. BD2412  T 01:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Index:The Renaissance In India.djvu--Riquix (talk) 06:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * This book has almost been finished. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:46, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Lame me was going to suggest Index:The English hymnal (1906).djvu (completely ignoring the score issue, no idea when that is going to be fixed - there's also Index:The English Hymnal (1906, lyrics only).djvu); but yeah something more exotic is welcome. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk) 05:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Index:Essays On The Gita - Ghose - 1922.djvu--Riquix (talk) 06:21, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

August (Biography)

 * For August, I suggest Galileo Galilei and the Roman Curia, by Karl von Gebler. DraconicDark (talk) 04:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Any comments? If not, I'll change the PoTM over, since it is already August. DraconicDark (talk) 19:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Seems fine to me. BD2412  T 20:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 20:28, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

September (Science/Technology)
Which one should we choose? It's September already, so the PoTM should be switched over. DraconicDark (talk) 15:27, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * International Library of Technology volume 1B: Lathe Work; Planer Work; Shaper and Slotter Work; Drilling and Boring; Milling Machines
 * In absence of a “natural sciences” category, and with some opposition to the above work (on account of its length), I nominate The Conchologist's First Book, a major work in the development of conchology as a popular discipline, especially in the U.S. (where it was first published). The scan above given is the first edition. This work is by far the author’s best-selling work, and contains many images besides, which make the work more appealing. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:15, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined towards the conchology book as subject matter, but have no insight into the relative technical difficulty of editing either (in terms of tables, diagrams, or illustrations). BD2412  T 16:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The conchology book has many images, but less formatting. The ILT book is much longer, and has a number of diagrams and tables interspersed throughout. I believe the images in CFB are confined to the set of plates at the beginning of the book. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 18:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

October (Fiction: SF/Fantastical)

 * I nominate Hoffman's Strange Stories, a collection of English translations of the popular stories by E. T. A. Hoffmann, who is best remembered for The Nutcracker and the Mouse King, which was adapted into the well-known ballet.  Several of his other stories have inspired well-known composers to write music and operas, but thus far The Nutcracker... is the only one of his stories for which we have a complete text. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, it is October, and this seems fine. BD2412  T 07:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I have switched it over to this month's work. DraconicDark (talk) 19:47, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Something is very wrong with the spacing of this scan. The text is treated as if it is in columns, when it isn't. BD2412  T 19:42, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Switch it out, PDFs are trash IMO as something just goes wrong when the text layer appears. If we are going with this work then please download and use the DJVU. — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * This part of the process is a bit far out of my technical comfort zone. BD2412  T 07:33, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Index:Hoffmann's Strange Stories - Hoffman - 1855.djvu. The OCR extraction is much better now. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 07:54, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks. It should go quickly now. BD2412  T 02:14, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

November (Language)
It is November now, any input? DraconicDark (talk) 02:44, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * We seem to have no works about the French language. Does someone have a recommendation? Perhaps a seminal work on the subject? --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * If we really want to stretch our wings, there's Index:A_dictionarie_of_the_French_and_English_tongues which was the first major French-English dictionary. It's immensely useful historically, but would probably best be done with some set-up. Languageseeker (talk) 02:09, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If we want something easier, I would suggest Grammar of the French Language, by Maximilian Schele de Vere . DraconicDark (talk) 15:25, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with Grammar of the French Language. I don't think the longer dictionary would work for POTM. BD2412  T 02:57, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think a French Grammar textbook from the 19th century is that useful. If Inductiveload can make a DJVU of the French Dictionary, then I can import a good text layer into it. Languageseeker (talk) 04:25, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The Dictionary would not make a good PotM project. Please select something else. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:55, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Index:Grammar of the French language - De Vere - 1867.djvu
 * Index:A dictionarie of the French and English tongues - Cotgrave - 1611.djvu
 * I also think the dictionary is not an ideal choice for the PotM. With a good text layer import (the OCR is...not great due to the language and printing) it might be OK in the MC, but even then I'd be surprised if it got traction. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 09:26, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * One suggestion: Index:The Origin of the Bengali Script.djvu -- Hrishikes (talk) 08:08, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 13:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with this as well. We can figure out a French work for 2022. BD2412  T 19:42, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 21:42, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Since there were no objections, I changed the PoTM over to Index:The Origin of the Bengali Script.djvu. DraconicDark (talk) 21:32, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

December (Fiction: Short story collections)

 * O. Henry Award? We have Index:O Henry Prize Stories of 1924.djvu, can probably go ahead to 1925, and certainly back to the 1919-1924 collections.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like fun. Languageseeker (talk) 02:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Inductiveload— talk/contribs 21:43, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * . Good choice. BD2412  T 17:12, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I gather that this is not happening this month. If not, perhaps we can get through some proofread works needing validation. BD2412  T 05:24, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

January 2022 (Quirky)
With Index:O Henry Prize Stories of 1924.djvu underway (and having started late in December), we can just call that the POTM for January also, unless someone has something else in mind that can be queued up quickly. BD2412 T 00:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

February 2022 (Fine arts)
This looks like a good candidate: Index:A history of Japanese colour-prints by Woldemar von Seidlitz.djvu. Though, it does have a large number of images to work with DoublePendulumAttractor (talk) 02:55, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Another suggestion is Mary Merrifield's collection of translations of medieval treatises on fine arts: MarkLSteadman (talk) 04:01, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Since it is February already, I selected A History of Japanese Colour-Prints since the index for that one already existed and there were no objections. DraconicDark (talk) 20:43, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thumb's up. BD2412  T 00:16, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

March 2022 (Woman's history)

 * Suggested: Index:The Position of Women in Indian Life.djvu -- Hrishikes (talk) 04:52, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

April 2022 (Poetry / Drama)

 * We have a few examples unsourced from Hull's The Poem-Book of the Gael MarkLSteadman (talk) 04:03, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

May 2022 (Geography)
Hrishikes (talk) 04:56, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * General work with many illustrations. Also long. Book 1: Index:New geographies (IA cu31924092515158).pdf and/or book 2: Index:New geographies (IA cu31924092515166).pdf ‎-feydey (talk) 12:43, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This seems reasonable. It's two columns, which is usually more work, but not that many pages. BD2412  T 00:30, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A few other possibilities: a volume of Reclus The Earth and its Inhabitants, Humbolt's Travels, one of the volumes from the Hakluyt of historical travels (e.g. MarkLSteadman (talk) 03:57, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Some other suggestions: The Geographical System of Herodotus, examined and explained:
 * First edition (1800)
 * Second edition (1830)
 * Vol 1
 * Vol 2

June 2022 (Fiction: Novel)

 * Two possibilities are Charlotte Temple (the first best-selling American Novel, modern edition here:, and the Country of Pointed Firs MarkLSteadman (talk) 04:06, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

July 2022 (Anthropology, Mythology, or Religion)
My suggestion is Vol 7, which entered the public domain last year. Hrishikes (talk) 05:06, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * We could proofread a book by Boas (e.g. Index:Kutenai Tales.djvu or The Mind of Primitive Man, ). Another option would be Riis's How the Other Half Lives since the current version is missing the photos. MarkLSteadman (talk) 04:14, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A very famous series is present here: The Mythology of All Races:
 * Vol 1 (Greek and Roman)
 * Vol 6 (Indian and Iranian)
 * Vol 7 (Armenian and African)
 * Vol 8 (Chinese and Japanese)
 * Vol 9 (Oceanic)
 * Vol 10 (North American)
 * Vol 11 (Latin American)
 * Vol 12 (Egyptian and Indo-Chinese)


 * Since the PoTM hasn't been updated in a while (and this talk page hasn't been active either), I have selected Kutenai Tales as the next PoTM. DraconicDark (talk) 06:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

August 2022 (Biography)

 * Index:Joseph Heco - The Narrative of a Japanese - Vol. I (1895).djvu autobiography by the first Japanese to be a naturalized citizen of the US MarkLSteadman (talk) 05:01, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

November 2022 (Language)

 * Per our November 2021 discussion, it's time to do a text on the French language. BD2412  T 17:15, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Better Current Collaborations Section
I don't think that the Current Collaborations section on the front page is serving us to well. Instead, I propose that we have a running list that automatically progresses to the next work once the current one is done. Furthermore, I propose that we divide the texts into four categories and display all four at once to allow users more choice and cater to more skill levels.
 * 1) Easy - These texts will be proofread texts that need validation. They will serve to introduce users to wikicode through an immersive environement and provide a low barrier to entry.
 * 2) Medium - These texts will require proofreading, but have fairly decent OCR. They can be novel or books imported from PGDP.
 * 3) Hard - These books have more complex layouts and may have more garbeled OCR, but they should not present too great of a challenge. Perhaps a book with lots of images or a few tables or a pre-19th century works with long s and ligatures.
 * 4) Challenge - These are probably mainly reference books or manuscripts. Lots of complex formating required.

In this way, users can select from the range of difficulty and have a choice of which book they wish to proofread. Languageseeker (talk) 01:09, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I do agree that we need some method of automatically queueing up the next POTM when the current one is finished. BD2412  T 06:16, 23 March 2021 (UTC)


 * PotMs can now be queued up in Module:PotM/data and will auto-advance at the end of the month, updating both PotM and Collaboration/POTM automatically. Currently, April is set to be Index:The torrent and The night before.djvu, but that was a random choice from the proposals since there has been no other discussion there. You can also pre-queue further works in a month, but if prior works aren't done, you need to set, otherwise it'll point to the last work in that month's list by default. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 07:33, 23 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for this. This looks awesome. Do you think it would be possible to add navigation arrows so that users can choose to look at the other works and potentially work on them? Also, would it be possible to add a description section so that we could add one or two sentences about the book? Languageseeker (talk) 01:39, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Re the arrows, that would be kind of awkward in the Wikitext paradigm without some kind of JS to dynamically load them in. Which would need to be globally loaded (and maintained into perpetuity), so it's a bit impractical for a single-purpose thing. If you wanted something more fancy and web-2.0'y, you should probably consider writing a Toolforge tool that serves a web app of some sort.
 * Descriptions would also be possible, technically speaking, to add to PotM/base. In theory you could show a more detailed list at Proofread of the Month than a "normal" invocation of PotM. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 18:20, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The arrow thing sounds like way more work than it's worth. What a simple textual Previous Next? Is that as much work? If it is, then it's also not worth it.
 * How would I go about adding a Description to PotM/base? Languageseeker (talk) 18:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Previous/next would require a page to use as a target. If the text doesn't exist as Wikisource page you can reach with a, you'd need a script to do it. New texts has archives, but PotM's method has been to just add works to the gallery at Proofread_of_the_Month. In theory, if the PotM data was backfilled, that gallery can be auto-generated.
 * To add a description to PotM/base is a matter of editing the template and figuring out a nice place to put it, if the parameter is given (I guess just before ). Since this is core template, that's actually a protected template, so you'll have to do it in PotM/base/sandbox. Then you need to get Module:PotM to pass descriptions to the template (near line 117) if present in the data item. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 19:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Core texts
I think the entire idea of a work a month does not work. Not everyone wants to proofread the same text at once. I think that we should have a list of several works every month including half finished text such as the one you mentioned. Progress would be measured by the number of pages proofread. Then, we could build a core set of key texts and clear the backlog. However, if we maintain our present system than this work would be out of scope for this month. Languageseeker (talk) 19:17, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * pardon a change, the text you mentioned has been removed. I've changed the header to reflect your proposal, please modify that if so inclined. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 13:05, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * There is no requirement to work on the PotM, and there are hundreds and hundreds of texts with Index pages awaiting proofreading. Editors are free to work on what they wish from that very large selection.  Various editors here have compiled personal lists of what they think ought to be worked on, and everyone's list is different. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree that everyone has a different lists, both there are some works that commonly make it to top lists and that should have scan backed editions. These are the texts that will attract users. Right now, we don’t have scan backed copies of Hamlet, Portrait of Dorian Gray, or Clarissa, to name a few. Could text such as these not be considered core texts? Languageseeker (talk) 17:13, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. Fiction is just one area that Wikisource covers; there is also non-fiction to be considered.  Further, Hamlet is a play (a long one), and when we have previously tried community proofreading of a play it did not go well.  Dramatic works require an advanced knowledge of formatting that is not conducive to community efforts.  Wikisource also does works that have been translated into English.  We to not have a copy of The Mahabharat nor do we have scan-backed copies of Rumi's Masnavi I Ma'navi or Ovid's Ars Amatoria.  We have almost no translations of major works in French, Spanish, and Italian. There is so much missing, that it would be an enormous list were we to compile it.  It might be worth assembling such a list, but selecting good scans for these works would require care, dedication, and expert knowledge or research in some cases.  And many of these works are beyond the scope of a single month's transcription. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:37, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I think a WikiProject Core Texts would be a really very good idea, but it needs a lot of curation and meta-editing to get it usable. Dumping a list of Wikipedia's 100 greatest books and letting it rot won't achieve anything. For example, Requested texts is pretty moribund, because it's way way easier to drive by and say "Oi, we should have X, Y and Z, hop to it" than arrange decent scans and actually do it. Even when scans are (eventually) sourced, requesting users very rarely actually do it. Furthermore, I speculate that one reason we have such poor "core" coverage is because most "core" texts are already trivially available online and people would rather do something new than painstakingly patch (or re-patch) a PG text into a scan-backed format.
 * A hypothetical WP:CT would presumably take on some of the responsibility of finding, processing, uploading and generally organising the "core texts" to facilitate proofreading by others, especially (but not limited to) newcomers.
 * In my internal fan-fiction of how that might go, it would be partnered with an analogue to the frWS "Mission 7500" (formerly Défi 5000), where we have some kind of automated back-end that allows use to track progress, which (at least at frWS) appears to be good rallying point for many people. Again, this is something that takes real effort to organise and maintain, it doesn't just happen. I'm unconvinced that the frWS bot-edited page method is the most efficient way (I'd think some kind of web-app on the Toolforge combined with some kind of on-wiki list/JSON/categorisation would be more snazzy, responsive and need less maintenance), but it certainly seems to work well for them.
 * I have deliberately glossed over the issue of determining what is and isn't "core".
 * Tl;dr it's a lot of work and needs concerted effort over a fairly long term. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 17:55, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Re: most "core" texts are already trivially available online and people would rather do something new: In some cases, it's possible to do both. For example, when transcribing the dramatic works of Aeschylus and Sophocles, I deliberately went for editions by other translators.  That is, nearly every on-line copy of Sophocles' plays in English comes from the translations by Storr that were published in the Loeb Classics, which went up on one site and then got copied over and over to other sites. And nearly every library copy in the US is Campbell's translation.  So I opted to transcribe the editions of Jebb and Plumptre, which were not the same copies everyone else offered.  Wikisource now has the plays of Sophocles, but not the same copies every other site has.  Doing this won't always be possible in every case, but it is something to consider.  Similarly, most translations of Russian novels online are the translations by Constance Garnett, which are generally held to be mediocre, so Wikisource could strive to find public domain copies by other translators. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I definitely don’t want to create a dumping ground for important texts that nobody works on. I also hear that what is important varies and many of these texts can be found available online. However, the goal is to attract users to Wikisource. Even if a text is available online, it still makes sense to create a scan backed copy here. These are the texts that will bring users. Also, many of these texts are of dubious quality so having a better quality copy makes sense. Lastly, by creating a high-quality etext, this site can help to make these texts to a broader community and end systemic inequality.
 * The selection of the texts will still have a communal nature, but will now explicitly aim to build up the core collection. We can do multiple translations or editions as long as they make sense.
 * I’m also not proposing to turn this into a series of dead, white men who wrote fiction. Instead, I think it makes sense to split the works into categories: LGBTQ+, Black Authors, Classical Text, Translations, Women Writers, Scientific Texts, etc.
 * I think that we should at least try the French model. I’m happy to do the translations and create the templates, if an administrator is willing to import the bot. For May, we can select 15 texts. 8 to proofread and 7 to validate. It could be a good test to see how this community reacts. Languageseeker (talk) 18:46, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * not supported From my several years' experience of being the primary co-ordinator of PotM, large projects do not work. There needs to be one work at a time on the Mainpage. The broad domains of knowledge that are in the annual calendar were set up to ensure that there is a good range of works worked on to appeal to various interests. Over the years we've interpreted those domains with some latitude. Also, I find the concept of "core texts" to be paternalistic at best and dictatorial at worst. "'Oh, you haven't read XXX? Well, that's absolutely dreadful. Of course, it's so much better in the original language, but you must still read it before you can consider yourself to be a well-rounded member of society.'" Yes, we want to make available the works that are widely considered to be the best ever written, but we must also make the also-rans available. If we don't, then we are not following our neutrality stance. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:35, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I think the most useful thing you could do up-front while we ask for the bot to be approved and set up for us, is to detail exactly how Mission 7500 works at frWS and construct a draft page for enWS. Importantly, a list of monthly task that are needed to keep the wheels turning, as that is probably where it's all seize up à la PotM, so we need a figure out a way to minimise that list. Likely we'd also evolve some different "rules of engagement". And it needs a name: Mission 7500 is unlikely to work since I doubt we can do 7500 page right off the bat! Inductiveload— talk/contribs 19:16, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I created an English translation at User:Languageseeker/POTM and imported all the relevant templates. Most of the heavy work appears to be done by the bot that generates the statistics. The two main tasks that will require human intervention is 1) Selection of Texts 2) Cutting and pasting the individual texts as they get worked on. Languageseeker (talk) 20:14, 23 April 2021 (UTC)


 * to be clear, I don't think we should really be aiming to replace PotM with this. To me (and I know there are many interpretations) PotM is more a way to get an "interesting" and accessible work, rather than an "important" one, out for collaboration.
 * This seems more like an parallel thing. Perhaps after some time it'll become a primary driver of progress, or perhaps it will fizzle out, but I think either way we should let it be its own thing than an attempt to replace the existing collaborations. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 22:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it’s important to feature it on the front page even if we don’t call it PoTM. Maybe, for now, we can replace the Current Collaboration with this? Or, do you have a different term in mind? Above all, I want to give it a fair shot to see if it will work. Languageseeker (talk) 23:23, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Change May to Harlem Renaissance
I think that it would great if Wikisource expanded its collection of writing by persons of color. For next month, there are no good suggestions. Instead, I propose to change next month to The Harlem Renaissance so that Wikisource will include this major literary movement and achievement of Africain Americans. For the first text, I propose The New Negro. Languageseeker (talk) 13:30, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This feels like a much bigger project than would last a month. If a collection of works with scans and OCR layers can be accumulated, it might make a good Community Collaboration in a few months' time. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A Community Collaboration would be the best approach to this idea. The current Collaboration is stale and was only put back in to the templates to tide us over until a new Collaboration could be decided upon. PotM needs to be a smaller project. In the past when we've tried a larger project we've had very little traction. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:55, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Propose work by Chesterton
Before I start on this, I thought something like this might be an enjoyable work for this sub-project: Index:What I saw in America.djvu by Author:G. K. Chesterton. If it wont slot in to a theme in the next year or so, then let me know and I will keep it to meself. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 14:27, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to feature it as part of the Monthly Challenge for next month if you would like. Languageseeker (talk) 16:43, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of what that is, but anyone is welcome to improve the index. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 16:52, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * see Monthly Challenge. Nominations at here. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 17:58, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Link to all

 * Maybe also add a link to all books that need proofreading: Category:Index Not-Proofread . Vis M (talk) 01:59, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * This page isn't the page for that link. This page is about our collaborations. — billinghurst  sDrewth  03:30, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * But the page it transcludes WS:Validation of the Month/validation works have a "Alternatively, have a line page randomly selected that requires validation." message. I was suggesting to add an all-link instead of "random".Vis M (talk) 14:45, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * there are over a million 'not proofread' pages, usually a user opening and saving pages for something to do, few people seem inclined to proofread those (I'm not one of them). However, your idea for linking the category instead of a random 'proofread' page is worth considering, but the current practice is to nominate and add a proofread work to that subpage. Hope I'm being clear, and that validated is understood to mean proofread twice. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 15:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC)