Wikisource talk:CommonsTicker

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Mark updated entries
We should mark entries that have been dealt with, or do not need to be dealt with. This would streamline the use of this page, since users would no longer recheck pages someone else has already updated. For example, the latest entry as of now states:

A Commons user already updated it; striking it or removing it will ensure that Wikisource users don't recheck it unnecessarily. I'd favour removing it, so that the page doesn't get too large as time goes on. // [ admin ] Pathoschild (talk/map) 16:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree; remove them.--BirgitteSB 18:59, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Acted upon items can be removed.  Otherwise the page will become too bulky.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 13:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I also agree. Since we seem to have a pretty good sense of agreement here, I'm going to go ahead and remove some of the items I have dealt with or that I know someone dealt with. - illy 13:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think, though, that waiting a week before deleting any items (so, if it were on June 1, we would remove it--if applicable--on June 8, and anything on June 12 would not be removed until June 19) might be a more prudent approach.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 14:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you're right. Sorry, I jumped the gun a bit there.  I'll restore the most recent one I deleted and any others that were less than a week old. - illy 13:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


 * We should strike out recent items that have already been acted upon, then, so it's easy to tell whether or not there's anything that needs to be checked. // [ admin ] Pathoschild (talk/map) 17:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

CommonsTicker: new version to fix some problems
Hello - sorry, the privious message was a bit broken. Below is a full repost. Sorry again -- CommonsTicker 14:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi - you may have noticed some problems with CommonsTicker lately - namely, some entries about deletions went missing, and some entries arrived several days late (messing up the date headings for ticker pages using append mode). This is caused by the massive replication lag we currently see on the toolserver (it's more than a day behind). While I hope this will not happen again in the future, I have been working on improving CommonsTicker so it handles out-of-sync entries gracefully.

I plan to activate a new version of CommonsTicker tonight or tomorrow - so look out for any new problems. Here are the most relevant changes:
 * fix handling of out-of-sync records (see above); added "latecomer" parameter to TickerEntry template (may be ignored)
 * deleted images can be restored now. To reflect this, I have added a "restored" action to CommonsTicker. To use it, you need to change your templates and/or CSS like this.
 * for pages in append-mode, there an empty "status" parameter is now handed to the TickerEntry template - this parameter can be set manually to trigger some type of marking or highliting, depending on how you set up your template and CSS. See here for an example that strikes out the entry if status is set to "done".

For the future, I'm planning to let CommonsTicker post warnings to the talk page of articles that use an image das is (about to be) deleted. I'll post another announcement when that feature is ready.

''This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker'' -- CommonsTicker 14:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

CommonsTicker: new version, new features
Hello. A new version of CommonsTicker will be rolled out soon (probably tomorrow). Please have an eye on what the bot is doing, and report any problems to m:User_talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker. Some of the changes are:


 * the ticker can now post warnings to the talk page of articles that are using "endangered" images. This is not enabled per default, and you can select for which namespaces it is done. If you want this feature, please request it at m:User:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker.
 * in append mode, there are now three empty template parameters: status, editor, and notic. The ticker does not use them itself, but you can use them in the TickerEntry template, for example to strike through entries that have been fixed. en:wikinews has already been using this for a while now.
 * if the ticker fails to post an update, a warning is posted to your and the ticker's talk page. In append mode, the ticker will also re-try to post the update on the next pass. Until now, failed updates where simply ignored.
 * edit summaries become a bit more informative.

I hope these changes will help to make CommonsTicker more used and more useful.

On a related note: you may have noticed that on long pages, entries near the bottom of the page are sometimes not expanded but rendered just as or similar. This is due to a new limit to template expansion - see 7005. To avoid it, try to keep the page short and/or try to simplify the TickerEntry template.

''This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker'' -- CommonsTicker 23:17, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

How come?
. . . It says Latest at the top but puts new entries at the bottom?--BirgitteSB 20:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Not exactly sure; that was what the section was named when the page switched from being split by date. I suppose we could add a level 2 header under which we could move all items that have been checked or do not appear to need any action to be taken.  Then after those items have been there for several days, they could get deleted. --Spangineerwp (háblame) 03:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

CommonsTicker: Ticker Trouble
Hello

As you may have noticed, there have been some problems with CommonsTicker lately:
 * first, the toolserver was down. After it was back up, we had to wait for fresh database dumps.
 * also, many updates where failing because ticker pages where growing too large. Updates that went through half-way somtimes also caused entries to be posted multiple times, making the problem worse.
 * when I tried to improve performance, I introduced a bug that caused the ticker to post trash sometimes. I disabled the ticker again when I was told about it, and I have fixed all effected pages yesterday (I hope I didn't miss any).

To sort this out completely, I have to rewrite parts of CommonsTicker. For now, I will enable the ticker again for most wikis, but not for the ones that where having most trouble - namely de-wikipedia, en-wikinews, eo-wikipedia, es-wikipedia, fr-wikipedia, ja-wikipedia, ru-wikipedia, simple-wikipedia and zh-wikipedia. I'll have to investigate those more closely.

So please keep an eye on CommonsTicker in the next days - if there is any more trouble, please tell me, preferrably on meta:User_talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker.

Regards -- meta:User:Duesentrieb 13:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

''This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker'' -- CommonsTicker 13:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

CommonsTicker: CommonsTicker, The Next Generation
I am currently testing a new version of CommonsTicker (dubbed CommonsTicker NG) on the german Wikipedia - problems with ticker pages growing too large made a partial rewrite necessary. Most changes are "under the hood", the larges change for users is in the way the ticker page is structured and updated:

CommonsTicker will now create a subpage for each day, and include this as a template on the ticker page. New entries for a given day are added to the respective subpage without modifying existing entries on that subpage. Old subpages (sections) are removed automatically from the main ticker page - per default, 7 sections are kept (days for which there are no entries are not counted). Please check that your ticker page has both start- and end-markers for the region where CommonsTicker should post (see m:User:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker); everything between the markers will be replaced. If the markers are missing, the entire page is replaced.

When I have finished testing CommonsTicker NG, I will activate the new version on the wikis where CommonsTicker is currently disabled due to problems with page size (the large projects I mentioned in the last announcement). When all goes well, I will start to switch other wikis to NG one by one, as seems convenient. If you want the new version soon, or you don't want it yet for some reason, please tell me about it on m:User:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker.

''This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker'' -- CommonsTicker 14:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)