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Category:Decisions-CAGov
This category was created for Canadian judicial decisions. I was wondering if this category should be renamed to something like "Canadian judicial decisions," since its present name doesn't, at first glance, have any apparent connection to what it's supposed to contain. Wild Wolf 23:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Move article
Just need someone with the correct permissions to move the page: Baha'ism to Bahá'í Faith. It is the article title for the English language project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá'í_Faith and there is a little note about Baha'ism at the bottom of the top section in that article as well. T0lk 08:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * "fading from use" is not a good reason to move something, phrases fall in and out of use constantly, renaming based on popular useage trends is not a wise idea. Similar to Wikisource:Buddhism, Wikisource:Christianity, Wikisource:Adventism, Wikisource:Cathars, Wikisource:Christadelphians, Wikisource:Deism, Wikisource:Mennonites, Wikisource:Mormonism, Wikisource:Quakers, Wikisource:Roman Catholicism ,Wikisource:Hinduism, Wikisource:Islam, Wikisource:Judaism, and Wikisource:Wicca - I dont' think it's really a wise idea to start adding "faith" to the end of the index titles. "Christian faith" or "Deist traditions" just becomes cumbersome - we're looking for the "easiest possible title" for each one, and I personally feel that Baha'ism fits that. Do others have an opinion? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Aeschylus 08:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The Bahá'í Faith is the most wildly used term to describe that religion. The official website for the Bahá'í Faith  uses the term: "Bahá'í Faith".  In your examples: Buddhism, Catholicism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, etc. are all accepted and widely used terms, even used by the religions themselves.  To do something different for the Bahá'í Faith would be discrimination.  The reason the term "Baha'ism" is fading from use is not because of a trend like you say but because as more people become educated to the religion they see that "Bahá'í Faith" is it's actual name, so they call it that. Google results for Baha'ism = 26,600.  Google results for "Bahá'í Faith" = 847,000. T0lk 09:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * {ec)If we are going to resort to Google hit counts, using Google Books is more appropriate, and I dont see much difference in the results; see Baha'ism vs "Bahá'í Faith"/"Baha'i Faith". I dont mind which page name is used. John Vandenberg (chat) 16:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * What are your thoughts on Bahá'í, then? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Aeschylus 16:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * WIkisource:Bahá'í is fine with me. Though it's used like this: a Bahá'í is a follower of the Bahá'í Faith. Like Wikisource:Buddhist? What are others thoughts. T0lk 18:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I have setup a vote for this issue: Wikisource talk:Baha'ism. T0lk 02:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandal
Please check Starfire10 (Talk | contribs) Wugo 04:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Popes
I noticed that all the authorpages of the popes have been renamed so as to removed the title "Pope" from the authorpage title. This could cause some confusion in the future. For example, Pope Alexander I's page is simply "Alexander I", which is also the name of a Macedonian king, king of Scotland, emperor of Russia, prince of Bulgaria, etc. (For a complete list, see this disambiguation page.) Wild Wolf 21:10, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd hate to see us start using Author:King Henry IV or Author:Right Honourable Stephen Harper if we weren't forced to do so. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Charles Spurgeon 21:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Given that list, removing "Pope" makes no real difference in the ambiguity of "Alexander I". We will have to use a disambiguation page eventually and move this to something like Alexander I (Vatican) or Aleander I (Pontiff).  Or we could move it there now and have Alexander I a redirect until there is need for a disambig page.--Birgitte SB  00:02, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

how can i help?
i'd like to help with typing or proofing Kants Dreams of a Spirit-Seer but have no idea how to do it or even how to ask. could someone please email me about this?

Username: Paul1easton User ID: 21,168


 * Hey, I've left a message at your talk page, cheers. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Charles Spurgeon 06:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Same here! Are directions for how to proofread available anywhere? I have tried clicking on the proofread of the month, but I can't figure out how to edit the text. Thanks! Acarmack
 * Here is some help about proofreading. Does it answer your needs? Regards,---Zyephyrus (talk) 22:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Please Respond On My Talk Page
Help, I was wondering what {{{ does. Thank you.Asdf (talk) 02:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Delete Page
Help, I need to delete a page, that I accidentally created. It is this one: Kama Sutra/Introductory/Observations on the Three Worldly Attainments of Virtue, Wealth, and Love. Where do I do this?24.65.69.8 23:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. Jeepday (talk) 23:36, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Renaming articles
I would like some help renaming some articles. I have just discovered that part 1 of A survey of Danish literature was in another volume. So the article I have named part 1 is actually part 2, and part 2 is actually part 3 and so on. I need A survey of Danish literature part 3 to be renamed A survey of Danish literature part 4, A survey of Danish literature part 2 renamed to A survey of Danish literature part 3 and A survey of Danish literature part 1 renamed to A survey of Danish literature part 2. Thanks. --Saddhiyama (talk) 19:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Move of 3 parts done; I left A survey of Danish literature part 1 empty as I was not sure what should move in there. Jeepday (talk) 22:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Making pre-loading gadget work
I can't seem to make the gadget work even though it is listed on my preferences in a box. As I understand it I am supposed to click on an empty item in the TOC and the header should load without having to use the "edit" button?--Varnesavant (talk) 00:04, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Double move requested
Executive_Order_13224:_Blocking_Property_and_Prohibiting_Transactions_With_Persons_Who_Commit,_Threaten_To_Commit,_or_Support_Terrorism should be moved back to its original, shorter name Executive Order 13224. This is consistent with the naming conventions of. &mdash; MrDolomite | Talk 20:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually renamings should go the other way, to clarify and give the full name of the order. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 23:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I need help translating something from French
I need help translating some letters that were posted in French. They need an English translation. The name of the page is "Pulaski's Letters to George Washington" on WikiSource. Thank you.

Delete page
Please help me to delete page Eulogy at Mahatma Gandhi's funeral that I created accidently. This text is already present there by the name The Light Has Gone Out. Shivashree (talk) 05:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the notification.  For future reference, the template that can be used for identifying works for speedy deletion is sdelete and you can pipe your reason within that. -- billinghurst (talk) 10:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

How to make links of Wikisource articles on Wikipedia article
I have create Address to the House of Representatives and the Senate by Soong Mai-ling on Wikisource, and I would like to know how to link this article with wikipedia articles. Thanks.Arilang1234 (talk) 19:13, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * Use Yann (talk) 20:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks user Yann.Arilang1234 (talk)


 * Also have a look at w:Category:Wikisource link templates. From the WP side for a distinctive box, we regularly use  and  where the reference at WikiSource is a major focus of the WP page.  Generally that would be placed in EXTERNAL SOURCES or REFERENCES.  -- billinghurst (talk) 04:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * For Bible, Book of Mormon, and other verse formatted texts, there's also w:Template:Sourcetext. Unfortunately, people seem to prefer being able to link to copyright violations and non-public domain copies, so I bowed out of the entire debate of replacing their Bible template with links to here several years ago. Jude (talk) 04:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Author:Francis Andrew March (Sr. or Jr.?)
There were two men named Francis Andrew March, father and son, but the text for Francis Andrew March included here at Wikisource, dated 1914, can hardly be by the father, since he died in 1911. Even so, there is no clear evidence that the text here is by the son, either. This situation needs correction, but I don't know enough to make any actual correction.

From Wikipedia March (surname) the two men are:


 * Francis Andrew March (1825-1911), American academic, philologist, and lexicographer, Professor of English, Lafayette College
 * Francis Andrew March, Jr. (1863-1928), Historian of World War I, son of Francis Andrew March and Professor, Lafayette College


 * Would you please be able to indicate the page to which you are referring? All I can see is The New Student's Reference Work/March, Francis Andrew which is a transcription of a book, and is included (presumably) as it appeared in that work.. -- billinghurst (talk) 14:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_New_Student%27s_Reference_Work/March,_Francis_Andrew is the page I see. This page provides biographical information about the father, who died in 1911, so I suspect that it might be by the son, but of course the 1914 book might have material from the father. Without the paper book, I am not sure how this can be resolved. --Davidt8 (talk) 14:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I would presume so too. I believe that the book is 1901.  You can find a scan of the original at  and go to p.1168. Note that with works, our aim is to reproduce the text as we find it in the work.  So if you have interpretation or clarification, such should appear in the Notes, or as a wikilink to your reference.-- billinghurst (talk) 14:31, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that the page I am looking at shows the content of the book at p.1168 about Professor March, but that is no indication that March wrote anything in that book. My mistake, nothing needs to be done. Thanks for your clarification, though.  --Dthomsen8 (talk) 16:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Principia Discordia article
The article at Principia Discordia is missing all the images. Were they deleted? How can I tell if they were? I have a copy of them, so I can upload them, but when I try it says that I can't. The typography and images make it hard to convert to text, so they are really needed. Mr. Quickling (talk) 03:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It does not look like the files were ever uploaded to WikiSource, though I cannot tell whether they were loaded to Commons. As we can have a native file link to Commons images, I would encourage you to load them to Commons if they are not covered by a copyright, and as necessary, amend the links on those pages. -- billinghurst (talk) 07:10, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Editing question
I have been working on Easton’s Bible Dictionary. I have a question about format. Several of the articles have a variety of sections, referring to different people or places with the same name. For example: Saul

I have put subheadings into some of these, such as Altar. I did this so that the link in another article will go to the correct kind of Altar.

Is this an appropriate revision of the original text or not?

--MathMan64 (talk) 03:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Multiples of meanings ... You could do this in a couple of ways, longitudinally on a page for all meanings, or a page for each meaning (and probably with disambiguation).


 * The presentation of a work will depend on the project discussion or by the agreement on the talk page. We look to maintain the original text, though we don't always exactly reproduce a work, eg. through splitting SBDEL. If there is a good reason, and it makes it more readable, then it sounds okay.  Another thought would be to use something like Sidenotes begin, Left sidenote and Sidenotes end and put the navigational outside the text on the page


 * To address the linking to anchors, you can utilise Template:Anchor which is used like . -- billinghurst (talk) 07:16, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Numbered list question
I'm trying to produce a numbered list that spans across several pages; however, using # results in a new list starting at 1 for each page. Is there a way around this? Thanks DroEsperanto (talk) 09:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I am no expert, so my limited experience only ... w:Wikipedia:Lists is the best guide to using # for lists that I know. You could code it with traditional  formula like at numbered lists. Generally I have just done manual numbering.  We could look to play around with the  parser function, however, manual numbering simply doesn't fail. -- billinghurst (talk) 11:45, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

English
Hi!

I was proofreading the page Page:An introduction to linear drawing.djvu/16 and noticed that there seems to be two spaces after the period and before the following text "The translator".

Should I use one or two spaces in cases like this? Helder (talk) 02:58, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The rendering process collapses whitespace before display, so it doesn't really matter how many you use. --Piet Delport (talk) 02:57, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Total noob here wants a file deleted
Hi there, I've 13,000 edits or more on en.wiki, but don't know anything about this place.

I uploaded, which I've now replaced (on advice) with. I wondered if someone could kill the pdf file for me? The djvu file is also at Commons, on the article Dick Turpin. Parrot of Doom (talk) 16:40, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din. 16:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)