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1932 Royal Christmas Message

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Constitution of the Principality of Sealand

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Chapter 8 of Traffic Signs Manual.

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Tolstoy on Pascal

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Eye of Argon

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UK works published in the UK before 1923

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"Rubicon" Address by South African State President PW Botha, August 15, 1985

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The Status Quo in the Holy Places

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Index:Handbook of Nature Study.djvu

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Index:Wikipedia – The Missing Manual.pdf

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Garassyz, Bitarap, Türkmenistanyn Döwlet Gimni

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The Princess (Lawrence)

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Index:HistoryOfDharmasastraancientAndMediaevalReligiousAndCivilLawV.2.1.djvu

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Index:The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 (UKSI 2016-0362).pdf and related pages

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2003 Utah State of the State Address

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27 December 2009 Commentary by John Yettaw
{{closed|all GFDL-only texts added since 2009 have been deleted —Beleg Tâl (talk) 17:36, 25 February 2018 (UTC)|text= There is a permission for this text to publish it under GFDL-1.3 license in OTRS that was rejected by an OTRS agent as incompatible with current WMF licensing policy. When the text was uploaded and the permission sent, CC-BY-SA was already the required license for any text contribution. So I think, this text should be deleted. Ankry (talk) 19:02, 22 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Does Wikisource not allow GFDL-only works? It is still "free", and while I can understand the restriction about importing portions of GFDL works in editing mode, Wikisource is more about simply storing the entire source document without change.  I believe Commons still allows GFDL-only images (though highly discourages them).  If an external work happens to be GFDL though, I'm not sure why we would not be allowed to host it.  Obviously, we can't take the text and use it in a Wikipedia article, but we should be able to reference it.  It is different than an original contribution.   Now... I'm not sure about scope here.  It looks like the source is a comment on a message board originally.  Carl Lindberg (talk) 17:18, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Terms of use and earlier Terms of Use (2009) point out that no text contribution that is GFDL-only should be made to any Wikimedia project on or after June 15th, 2009. I am seriously interested in any policy interpretation that allows Wikisource GFDL-licensed uploads after that date (if anybody can point it out).
 * Also it is curious that this text has "OTRS pending" status for over five years... The OTRS ticket concerning this text is 2010010610000422.
 * Ankry (talk) 20:52, 26 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Those are the terms of use for active users of the site. It makes perfect sense for any amount of text on most any Wikimedia site, as it gets edited etc by multiple editors and the GFDL derivative work provisions make it an impossible license to work with.  Same with comments like this one.  But, stand-alone works are very different.  Commons still allows individual images to be GFDL (as those do not create derivative work problems with text).  For something like Wikisource, for works which are naturally GFDL with external sources, I don't see how those are bound by the terms of use.  We are not into creating derivative works here; we just want to host the unaltered original text.  It's still free.   Granted, you can't copy/paste from those works into Wikipedia articles or Wikiversity texts, but ... they can certainly be referenced and there is probably a good amount of material out there which is very relevant.  Say, Free as in Freedom.     I do have scope concerns on this work, and if the OTRS is not valid then of course even the GFDL license is not true (I don't have OTRS access so I have no idea).  But I don't see the point in banning individual GFDL works from Wikisource; we are hosting external works, not doing any collaborative editing.  Carl Lindberg (talk) 01:27, 28 October 2014 (UTC)


 * OTRS ticket might be valid if GFDL was still accepted after 15.06.2009. But as I noted above, the permission was rejected basing on the WMF licensing rules. Maybe an OTRS agent with better knowledge about enwikisource licensing could look into the ticket? {{ping|Billinghurst}}?
 * {{ping|Clindberg}} I 100% agree that accepting GFDL would not be here such a problem as it would be for Wikipedia (maybe except potential problem with translating GFDL-licensed texts by wikisourcians). But such exception for Wikisource is not reflected in the official WMF policy. IMO, the current policy is clear here: we can upload GFDL-licensed scans, but we are not allowed to upload any GFDL-licensed text after 15.06.2009. I see no differentiation between stand-alone uploaded works and on-wiki created works in the policy. Policy just says about texts. Or am I missing something?
 * Ankry (talk) 10:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * OTRS permissions is one for {{ping|Jeepday|JeepdaySock}} — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can email back and see if the work can be relicensed. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:20, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I guess those are the terms of use -- the text may be validly licensed that way, and the author is not subject to the terms of use, but technically a user here cannot import that under those terms. It is nonsensical to me though that we would allow scans like that but not be able to transcribe them -- the copyright on the scan is the exact same as the copyright of the text.  Can such scanned PDFs not have a text layer in them?  Projects are allowed to have an EDP (an exemption to the regular licensing rules which makes more sense for their project).  Those are normally used to allow non-free works, which Wikisource could never do, but maybe this situation is one area which may make more sense.  To me, the terms of use was written for the collaborative text situation (which is true just about everywhere else on Wikimedia projects), but Wikisource is a bit unique in that aspect.  I do guess that earlier uploaded GFDL works were allowed to be cross-licensed with CC-BY-SA (did we ever go around and change the licenses?) which could make a difference in that the text could be copied over as part of other projects.  But I'm not sure it makes any sense to restrict Wikisource to only PD, CC-BY, and CC-BY-SA works. Carl Lindberg (talk) 15:59, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

The sentence of wmf:Terms of Use (2009) that is relevant is "Furthermore, please note that you cannot import information which is available only under the GFDL." So 27 December 2009 Commentary by John Yettaw is a clear Terms of Use violation by {{user|Justmeherenow}} ;-) I say that tongue in cheek, as clearly there is no intent to harm, and the usual Wikimedia content licensing situation doesnt apply to Wikisource as the original content being reproduced is not user-generated, and the original text is not amended on Wikisource, and there isnt much else to copyright here.  However we do have a problem also with all content in Category:GFDL, especially anything imported after November 1, 2008 and extremely especially after the relicensing clause expired on August 1, 2009. (see https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Interoperability_between_Creative_Commons_licenses_and_GFDL ).  This was never properly resolved on Wikimedia Commons either, as many photographers refused to accept automatic dual licensing migration of their GFDL-only high resolution photos. See c:Category:GFDL. Because Commons is large and those photographers very vocal, they have pretty pictures, and they had very good arguments too (like preferring to trust FSF than WMF), this resulted in a text vs images distinction in the ToU, licensing upgrade tricks, etc. The WMF simply didnt want to tackle more than they could chew, so they allowed GFDL photos, but not text, even thought the GFDL is almost ridiculous when used for stand-alone photos, but it is certainly designed for primarily textual works with only media supporting the text. In short, the terminology distinction between images and text in the Terms of Use is silly, especially on Wikisource, and needs to be revisited. Editing images is the same as editing text, it is only the ease and volume of edits that differs. We should treat our faithful reproductions (facsimile) as 'Non-text media' in the ToU - they are not creative works intended to be gradually improved over time by the community. If anyone feels particularly strongly about the problem with GFDL texts wrt the ToU, we could call GFDL textual works 'non-free' (irony alert) and create an Exemption Doctrine Policy (see especially Non-free_content) to bypass the Wikimedia licensing policy. I'd be happy to lead that effort, rather than accepting the sheer stupidity of having GFDL scans permitted on Commons that we are legally not allowed to transcribe. John Vandenberg {{sup|(chat)}} 07:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * {{strikethrough|({{ping|John Vandenberg}}) We even have GFDL explicitly listed as a compatible license for works that can be hosted here. I don't understand the legal considerations well enough to know the best way to proceed. If we can't convince the WMF to update the terms of use to allow for WS, then an exemption doctrine policy looks like the only feasible solution listed above. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:34, 21 April 2017 (UTC)}}
 * "The WMF simply didnt want to tackle more than they could chew, so they allowed GFDL photos," no, actually there was an attempt to abolish GFDL 1.2 only, and the commons consensus was to keep them (not a WMF problem) see also c:Commons:Requests for comment/AppropriatelyLicensed. Slowking4 ‽ SvG's revenge 23:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of all GFDL-only works
What is the status on this? Do we need to delete all GFDL-only works uploaded since 2008-11-01 under our current policy? I'd support an EDP, but I don't see a lot of discussion on proposals of that kind so I don't think we're likely to get any kind of consensus on such a change in the near future.

If there are no further comments on this discussion I think I will move this forward as follows: first, a proposal for EDP on the Scriptorium; and if there is no consensus or no discussion I will just delete all works tagged GFDL-only that were uploaded since 2008. Here is a list of all the works tagged GFDL:

2 Translation:2007 Thailand Greenhouse Gas Management Organisation Establishment Decree 27 December 2009 Commentary by John Yettaw Talk:27 December 2009 Commentary by John Yettaw A Translation:À Eugène Lefébure - Monday 27 May 1867 A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Epilogue A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Part 1 A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Part 2 A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Part 3 A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Part 4 A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Part 5 A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Supplement 1 to part 4 A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Supplement 2 to part 4 A Short History of Russian "Fantastica"/Supplement to Part 5 A Wodehouse Miscellany Ad notam. Diverse years' notes Translation:Address of the Fils de la liberté of Montreal to the young people of the colonies of North America Affirmation of the Global Nonkilling Spirit The Amnesty An Anarchist FAQ An Appeal to the Red Army User:Anonymous101/The generous poor man Translation:Another letter from P.R. Slaveikov - February 1874 Architekton Alexi Rilets Translation:Audi filia et Translation:Augusto Bonetti to the Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith Translation:Auld Lang Syne Awakening (Pushkin) B Translation:Beijing City Public Security Bureau Order to Search and Arrest Escaping Members of "Beijing Higher Education Student Autonomy Union" Translation:The Best Place for a Village Biography of Guan Yu Translation:Bishop Augusto Bonetti on the talks with Theodosius, the Metropolitan of Skopje Translation:Bollettino della Vittoria Book of Mormon (Plain English Version) Translation:Boze Pravde Bridge of Arta The Bullfinch (Derzhavin) But Could You? C Translation:Call to Arms (Lu Xun) The careful and muted sound Translation:Catullus 39 The Christmas trees are shining Clouds will separate us Comprehensive Picture of Spring Translation:The conditions of transfer of Macedonian eparchies to Union with the Roman Catholic Church Translation:The congregation for the propagation of the faith to Augusto Bonetti Translation:The congregation for the propagation of the Faith to Augusto Bonetti - Second letter Constitution of May 3, 1791 Translation:Cor nostrum Country Report - Yugoslavia Translation:Cum ex injuncto Translation:Cum non solum Translation:Customs of Lorris D Dagome Iudex Translation:The Dark Realm The Dark Side of Scientology Translation:Das Deutschlandlied Translation:De sinu patris Declaration of Horace Sébastiani in French Chamber of Deputies about situation in Poland (1831) Declaration of Lawrence H. Brennan Translation:Dei Patris Immensa Translation:Departing from Baidi in the Morning Di – stance: versts, miles User:Dmitrismirnov/Sandbox The dull air is moist and resounding E Translation:Ea est in fovendis Translation:El Coloquio de los Doce Elegy 1830 (Pushkin) Elemoont Translation:Epistle to the Laodiceans F Fables and Parables Fading Voices "Farewell, Farewell, Unwashed Russia" For an End to the Policy of Reprisals For Freedom and Truth Free as in Freedom (2002) Free as in Freedom (2002)/Appendix A Free as in Freedom (2002)/Appendix B Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 1 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 10 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 11 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 12 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 13 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 2 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 3 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 4 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 5 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 6 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 7 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 8 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Chapter 9 Free as in Freedom (2002)/Epilogue Free as in Freedom (2002)/Preface Free as in Freedom 2.0 Translation:The Free French to their Canadien Brothers Free Software and Free Media Portal:Free Software Foundation Free Software Matters: The Public's Business Translation:Frog Poem (Sitnitsky) Translation:Frog Poem (Smirnov) From beneath a mysterious and ice-cold half-mask Translation:From the Field they are Going, Father From the semi-dark hall, suddenly Functional Package Management with Guix G Translation:Give It Up! Translation:GNOOV internal affairs division 1040/1945 GNU Emacs Manual Translation:The Golden Age (Martí) Translation:Le Grand Meaulnes Translation:Great Peace of Montreal Guanabara Confession H Hagia Sophia Translation:The Helmsman Translation:Hino Nacional do Brasil (free translation) Translation:Hino Nacional do Brasil (literal translation) Translation:History of Guan Yin Hall History of national Internet domain Translation:History of the Insurrection in Canada in refutation of the report of Lord Durham The Hon. Louis-Joseph Papineau's Address to the Electors of the Counties of St. Maurice and of Huntingdon (First Manifesto) The Horse (Pushkin) Translation:How Kraljevic Marko Learned to be a Hero How Krill feeds How the Scientology Organization uses and exploits the United States' legal system for its own ends Translation:Hujusmodi salutationis nostrae I I Loved You Once Translation:I Take My Leave of You I'm given a body – what to do with it? Insomnia. Homer. The rows of stretched sails Translation:The Internationale (Kots) Translation:The Internationale (Pottier, French) Translation:The Internationale (National Revolutionary Army) Translation:The Internationale (Qu) Into the circling choral dance of shadows that trampled the soft meadow Invocation by Laughter Isim – e – Zat conference Speech Translation:İstiklâl Marşı (1) Translation:İstiklâl Marşı (2) J Translation:J'accuse...! Jason Beghe speech at That is Scientology! Reports from the USA K Translation:Kimi ga Yo L Larry Brennan speech at That is Scientology! Reports from the USA User:LarryGilbert/Bolonga Declaration A Legend of Old Egypt Translation:Letter from Gotse Delchev to Nikola Maleshevski (1899) Letter from Louis-Joseph Papineau to George Bancroft - December 18, 1837 Translation:A letter from P.R. Slaveykov to the Bulgarian Exarch Translation:List of Frequently Used Characters in Modern Chinese The Living Telegraph Longer Prajñāpāramitā Hṛdaya Sūtra M Translation:The Macedonian question Translation:Call to Arms (Lu Xun)/A Madman's Diary Translation:Mainz Anonymous Translation:The Man Who Planted Trees Manifesto Against Conscription and the Military System Translation:A Manifesto from the Provisional Government of Macedonia - 1881 Translation:Manifesto of the headquarters of the Macedonian army - 1880 Translation:Manshu Marc Headley speech at That is Scientology! Reports from the USA User:Mathieugp/Drafts/Appeal to the Justice of the State (Epistle to General Haldimand) A meagre beam in a cold measure Menara-e-Noor Translation:Mikraot Gedolot Mold of the Earth More tender than tender Translation:The Morning Hymn The Most General Life Ideals Mozart and Salieri Translation:Mozi Translation:My Country is My Love N Translation:The Nail Broth Translation:National Anthem of the Republic of China Neolinguistic Manifesto Night. City calmed down Translation:Nihil novi O On Discoveries and Inventions Translation:On Fortune Translation:On individual means for respiratory organs protection against dust Translation:On Individual protective means for workers' respiratory organs (review of literature) On Macedonian Matters On some controversies regarding origin and nationality of Nezami Ganjavi Translation:One Can't Please the World One Question Translation:Ordinance 93-027 of 30 March 1993 on copyright, related rights and expressions of folklore Translation:Orohydrography of Macedonia Translation:Overview of Industrial Testing Outcome of Respiratory Organs Personal Protection Equipment P Translation:The Peach Blossom Spring The Pine Tree Piping autumn wind Translation:Plant a tree Translation:Ploughing of Marko Kraljevic Translation:Preface to the Poems Composed at the Orchid Pavilion Translation:Proper use of gas masks as prevention of occupational diseases Prophecies R Translation:Reducing the harmful effects of polluted air at workplaces using respiratory PPE User:Rekrutacja/Neolinguistic Manifesto The Religion of God Report about the first school district to start teaching in the Macedonian language Translation:Romance of the Three Kingdoms The Rose said: “Oh, my most radiant beauty Translation:Rose VII Translation:Rose XLVIII S Sacred song heals the sick spirit The Sail Seattle: Booms and Busts Shades (Prus, tr. Kasparek) A Short History of Russian "Fantastica" Translation:Short Song Style Shorter Sukhāvatīvyūha Sūtra The Singer (Pushkin) Sisters heaviness and tenderness – your signs are the same Translation:The Slum Translation:A Song about Serbian Time Translation:Song of Everlasting Regret Soon they have to die Translation:Sorrow, Zare, let's Sorrow Translation:A Sparrow and a Cat Translation:Speech of the Hon. Louis-Joseph Papineau before the Institut canadien on the occasion of the 23rd anniversary of this society, December 17, 1867 Spider, say again Translation:St. Edmund, King and Martyr Translation:St. John the Baptist's Day Banquet Translation:The Still that Died Stone Translation:The Story of the Stone T The Tale of Mac Dathó's Pig The Tale of the Dead Princess Translation:Tales of the New Era Translation:Tao Te Ching Translation:Tell me, Tell Translation:A tender noisy troublemaker ... Teng Wang Ge Xu The Antoninus Agadot in Medrash and Talmud Translation:The Cricket The first Constitution of Macedonia - Kresna 1878 Translation:The House of Cards The Mirabeau Bridge Translation:The Pasha and the Dervish Translation:Theodosius, the metropolitan of Skopje, to Archimandhite Dionysius Translation:Theodosius, the metropolitan of Skopje, to Pope Leo XIII Translation:There, Over There Translation:Though the Tortoise Lives Long Time's river in its rushing current Translation:To My Dear People! Translation:To One Who Does Nothing, Yet Defames the Work of Others To read only children's books Translation:To the Virgin Mary To*** Kern Tohfa-tul Majalis Translation:Touring Shanxi Village Transcript of The System Of Ownership Of Ideas Translation:Travels in Southern France's départements Tristia Triṃśikā Vijñaptimātratā Tsar Dukljan U Un coup de dés jamais n'abolira le hasard Up out of an evil clinging pool V Translation:Velika Togenburg Translation:Viam Agnoscere Veritatis W Translation:Wald honors its Freedom Hero Devaranne What do you mean to the world? – Nothing! What Is Soviet Power? What is the benefit of our arrival and departure? Where have we come from? Where are we going? Translation:Whoe'er in Heav'n above Does Wish to See on Earth Why the United States must investigate the crimes, abuses and frauds of the Scientology enterprise User:Wikijeff/JAGS2 Wikipedia- The Missing Manual Translation:Will of Chiang Kai-shek With Blood and Iron

—Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Deleting such works makes no sense to me. As does making GFDL an "incompatible" license.  We should basically allow licenses similar to Wikimedia Commons (which has no formal EDP yet allows them anyways, despite being subject to the same terms of use).   I think conflating the terms of use (which make sense for collaborative texts, and talk page stuff, etc.) into which external works we can import does not make much sense.  I guess locally-created translations are the main issue -- we may need to disallow GFDL-only for those, as other editors should be allowed to tweak them, etc.  Weren't existing GFDL translations changed to a combo GFDL/CC-BY-SA at some point?  If not, can we still make that change?  If not, I would grandfather those, and bar GFDL-only on new translations.  Carl Lindberg (talk) 12:43, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I am no expert on the situation, but my understanding is as follows.
 * Works uploaded before the cutoff (2008-11-01) under GFDL-only are ok; they did not get changed to GFDL/CC-BY-SA but they are exempt from the Terms of Use so they can stay. This includes both imported works and original content by editors.
 * Original works created by editors after the cutoff (including local translations) cannot be GFDL-only, so that doesn't matter.
 * The terms of use explicitly say that importing text "available only under GFDL is not permissible." This is not conflating the terms of use, this is a direct quote. The terms have separate articles for text and non-text so Commons is not really relevant.
 * The list above is all the texts that are GFDL, but many of them may be pre-cutoff or dual-licensed and therefore hostable. I didn't have time to comb through the list.
 * The whole discussion (to my understanding) boils down to this: the terms of use forbid GFDL-only imported text since a certain date, and we have GFDL-only imported text since that certain date, so how can we address the situation? Two options only have been suggested: an EDP, or deletion. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Anything in the Translation: namespace is user created, so I don't understand why you listed them. Are you proposing to delete those or not? They make up a considerable proportion of your list. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:45, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Like I said, the list is a list of all GFDL works. It contains, but is not limited to, the post-2008 GFDL-only works that User:John Vandenberg proposed for deletion. If you want to go through the list and remove ones that do not meet the post-2008 GFDL-only criteria, go for it; I don't have time to do so. The list doesn't matter. I don't care about the list. What matters is that there is a significant corpus of post-2008 GFDL-only works on this site, and that in the absence of discussion all such works will need to be deleted. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:02, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, if we don't even know which items are being considered, then I say postpone any discussion or decision until we have a specific list to be considered. These could simply be incorrectly tagged; they could be pre-2008; they could be original user-generated translations; they could be anything. As it stands, we don't know the status of these items so it is premature to even discuss them, much less delete them. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:08, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Such a list is in progress at Category:GFDL-only. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 16:37, 30 October 2017 (UTC)


 * OK. But, Commons is subject to the same terms of use, but allows GFDL-only media, if that is the license.  That includes PDFs, etc.  It really does not make sense to bar those.  The terms of use are more for collaborative texts, where multiple editors need to work on them, and create original content.  For the primary texts of Wikisource, that is not the case -- editors simply duplicate already-existing text so there is no new copyright added, so there should be no licensing concerns.   To bar GFDL-only texts because of the terms of use does not make sense to me -- those are not written by contributors to this site.  They are still "free" and we had always allowed them.  Wikipedia does not bar the use of GFDL-only images being used in the articles -- just on the collaborative text because that is really the only way collaborative text can work, legally.   The Translation: namespace probably does come under those collaborative concerns, but for original works which we are simply copying, I don't think the terms of use were targeted at those, and I'm not sure I see any problem with them.  If we should create an EDP to make that explicit, fine, although I don't think that hosting free works necessarily requires one.   I simply think that applying the terms of use to imported texts does not make any sense -- that should just be a "free work" requirement, like it has always been.  The change in the primary licensing should not have affected the core content that we can host.  Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:53, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree it doesn't make sense. But the terms that forbid GFDL-only explicitly apply to imported text (section 7c), and not for collaborative original content nor for non-text media. The most sensible approach would be to fix the terms of use to be more sensible, but EDP would be more feasible. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 19:25, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, but importing text on Wikipedia and just about any other project comes with the assumption that it will be modified from there. Wikisource is still different.  I don't think Commons would have any issues uploading GFDL PDFs, if they were a source document.  But an EDP would be fine, even if not exactly what they were meant for (they are normally an exemption to allow use of non-free works in certain circumstances, which we are not trying to do).  I guess we are trying to get around a terms of use that some people think apply to this case, when I don't think it was at all intended, and I don't think WMF would have an issue with anyways.  They would be the only ones to enforce the terms, so if they do actually consider this a problem and they want to ask for deletion, then OK, but short of that I don't see the need to delete them.  They are not a copyright issue. Carl Lindberg (talk) 06:23, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I've gone through all mainspace works in Category:GFDL and compiled the following list of GFDL-only works added since 2008-11-01:


 * 27 December 2009 Commentary by John Yettaw
 * The Amnesty
 * An Appeal to the Red Army
 * Book of Mormon (Plain English Version)
 * The Bullfinch (Derzhavin)
 * The Dark Side of Scientology
 * Declaration of Lawrence H. Brennan
 * Fables and Parables
 * Free as in Freedom 2.0
 * Free Software Matters: The Public's Business
 * Functional Package Management with Guix
 * GNU Emacs Manual
 * Larry Brennan speech at That is Scientology! Reports from the USA
 * Marc Headley speech at That is Scientology! Reports from the USA
 * Neolinguistic Manifesto
 * On Discoveries and Inventions
 * Piping autumn wind
 * Soon they have to die
 * Spider, say again
 * Tohfa-tul Majalis
 * Wikipedia- The Missing Manual

—Beleg Tâl (talk) 15:31, 31 October 2017 (UTC) }}
 * This section was archived on a request by: —Beleg Tâl (talk) 17:36, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

File:Story of Ichalkaranji.pdf

 * This section was archived on a request by: —Beleg Tâl (talk) 16:29, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

2004 Democratic National Convention Keynote Address

 * This section was archived on a request by: --Jusjih (talk) 05:39, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Bible/Peter and Bible/Acts of Philip

 * This section was archived on a request by: —Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:26, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

The Dog and the Cat

 * This section was archived on a request by: —Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:29, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

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Jesus Christ (Raffel)
This is tagged PD-IndonesianPub; even if this is a valid license in some situation, I don't see why it's for these files. "I" has no clear source, and I don't know anything about the translator. "Jesus Christ" has a source, "The Complete Poetry and Prose of Chairil Anwar", published in the US in 1970, so PD-IndonesianPub is clearly irrelevant for the translation.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:08, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * contributor

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 * as I don't see that the works are in the public domain in the US in Indonesian; and the template as well. The licence template has no apparent basis relevance to our English works. — billinghurst  sDrewth  06:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * this discussion also will entail the page Author:Burton Raffel as works would be copyright. I would think that it should also entail Author:Chairil Anwar as they won't have works in the public domain. — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:42, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * for both works, and Raffel and Anwar author pages. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 19:21, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: —Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:38, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Japan Speaks Out

 * This section was archived on a request by: —Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

The six tailbone of the Cenozoic era 신생대의 여섯 번째 꼬리뼈

 * This section was archived on a request by: --Jusjih (talk) 05:53, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Paris Spleen/Let's beat up the Poor!

 * This section was archived on a request by: —Beleg Tâl (talk) 15:51, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Oeconomicus

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On Terrorism and the State

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Long Life Prayer for His Holiness the Dalai Lama

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Tears of the Fatherland

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Works by Author:Suman Pokhrel

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Unknown soldiers (song)

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Twelve Conclusions of the Lollards

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On Succession to the Crown

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Index:The maritime provinces of British North America and the American Revolution.djvu

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Poems by Andreas Gryphius

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The Devil with the Three Golden Hairs

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BitTorrent Open Source License

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Works by Samora Machel

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File:H.M. The Little Town.djvu

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The Thirsty Crow

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Fair Antigua, We Salute Thee

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The Face in the Pool

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I Loved You Once

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Portal:Samaritan liturgy/Al-Asatir

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Works translated by Robert Elsie

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Karl Marx: A Brief Biographical Sketch With an Exposition of Marxism

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History Will Absolve Me

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Constitution of Excel Edu-Clubs and Election Code of Edu-Clubs

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The communal award

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Our Beloved Country

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Aitareya Upanishad (Sri Aurobindo translation)

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Regiment march

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Maha Nidana Sutta

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The Coming of Wireless

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1922 non-US renewed works

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Battle-Retrospect (1923)

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Prufrock
Am I right in thinking that Index:Prufrock and Other Observations (1917).djvu needs to be hosted locally instead of on Commons? This is a UK publication of 1917, and T. S. Eliot died in 1965. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
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Question on upload policy

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DNC Lawsuit against Russia, Wikileaks et al..?

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The Book of Martyrs (Foxe)

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Letter to President Bush

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