Wikisource:Copyright discussions/Archives/2016

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School Song of New R. S. J. Public School
{{closed|1=Deleted for missing confirmation from OTRS--Jusjih (talk) 18:54, 19 June 2016 (UTC)|text= There is no evidence that this is, in fact, in the public domain. It also doesn't appear to be significant enough to be included on Wikisource. --Jakob (talk) 13:29, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Move from Proposed deletions. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 16:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * How can I provide the evidence for its copyright. If by email then how? Email me the steps at Prathamprakash29 (talk) 07:31, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The easiest way is to provide a link to the song posted at the school site with it’s copyright notice posted online. Next requires contact with someone who is legally entitled to represent the school and/or the author of the song. Which is most likely to work in your case? JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 18:13, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @Jeepday The principal is having the copyright of the song. The song is not on school website but it is on the school diary as hardcopy.

The principal had sent a the permission to permissions-common. Is it ok, or any other step is required?--Prathamprakash29 (talk) 07:01, 8 May 2014 (UTC) This is the image of school diary with school song --- Please add it.
 * Two issues
 * 1 The permissions sent in 2014050810001396 are sent on behalf of the author, not by the author. While a this can be addressed, the second issue is problematic.
 * 2 Per WWI it does not meet inclusion. As it is only published in a school publication it fails Original contributions and as it is only one part of that school publication it fails Excerpts.
 * Jakec had challenged it as not significant or notable, which is not an inclusion criteria at Wikisource, and pointed out the copyright issue. I should have reviewed more before bringing it here.  Currently it seems that the copyright issue can be (but has not yet been) addressed. But the work will still fail at least two of the precedent exclusions at WS:WWI. Jeepday (talk) 08:32, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, Jeepday just tell me what do i need to do, to make the lyrics available on wikisource.--Prathamprakash29 (talk) 06:35, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Currently it does not look like there is anything you can do. In an effort to not become a Vanity press and remain a library, the community has set some standards on what works can be hosted here. This work, does not meet the inclusion criteria. Jakec and Ankry were essentially correct when they questioned the appropriateness of hosting this work on Wikisource. The two "Official" problems I mention above are the technically correct challenges to the work, other then the copyright issue. If you look hard enough you may think you can find a way around these challenges but speaking from experience in working with the community for years, this work is not likely to be hosted on any wikimediafoundation site in your lifetime. Jeepday (talk) 12:21, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Aside on Excerpts

 * Jeepday, you cited "Excerpts", but is a song really an excerpt, or more of a self-contained unit like in an anthology? What brought this to mind was an early contribution called Elemoont.  It was a story serialized in a Russian newspaper and was accepted here.  I found the "Excerpts" description at Wikisource:WWI enlightening as to good management of Wikisource resources in its opposition to fragmentation of an author's work, but I also see how that may be taken too far when it excludes bonafide publication of works of those very authors we are trying to protect that might not appear in any other way.  For example in a newspaper, a story serialized there may be thought to have more enduring significance than the news articles that surround it, articles which, in the long run, may only carry historical significance rather than a literary one.
 * Jeepday, since, as you mention, it was only published in a school diary, I don't mean to argue a moot point, but to open up possibilities of the song being published elsewhere as a condition of it being accepted here. For example, why wouldn't a magazine put out by a school district that you see published in some areas be suitable?  ResScholar (talk) 11:53, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ResScholar you are correct; but in those cases the works have received multiple publications. The community has tended to embrace "Excerpts" of popular works that have recieved multiple publications when a copy of the work as a stand alone is not available, but I think they is usually at least an attempt to set up the entire work as an index, even if only one part of the work is validated at the time it is brought onto Wikisource. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 11:09, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * OTRS is still in 'received' status, for two years? I dont have access any more, so I cant check what happened.  But given the nature of the work, the lack of sheet music, etc, I think this discussion should be concluded and there is only one conclusion possible at this stage. John Vandenberg (chat) 02:20, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

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UN Security Council Resolutions
Hi. Some hundreds of pages from Category:UN Security Council Resolutions may be deleted. There were discussions in the past, but look at c:Commons:Village_pump/Copyright. UN says that the resolutions are copyright protected. Also pre-1989?! Best regards. -Aleator (talk) 19:01, 20 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Moved from WS:Scriptorium. Mukkakukaku (talk) 19:52, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Resolved as no particular action. For reference c:Commons:Village_pump/Copyright/Archive/2016/09


 * This section was archived on a request by: billinghurst  sDrewth  03:05, 16 March 2017 (UTC)