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La Marseillaise
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A Liberal Democrat Foreign Policy
{{closed|1=Deleted.--Jusjih (talk) 02:36, 29 March 2010 (UTC)|text= Untagged work that is a poltical election speech. Would not seem to fall within our ability to redistribute. -- billinghurst (talk) 13:48, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete because the original source text no longer exists, and none of the reproductions I could find via Google indicate or imply any free-use license. —LarryGilbert (talk) 18:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * 1) Ken Clarke's Conference Leadership Speech 2005

Henry C. Karlson III's letter to Barack Obama
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{{closed|1=Deleted; re-originated with redirects to public-domain versions This Aristotelian text of old provenance to Wikisource, edited by many users, appears to be a copyvio. It was first published in some form in 1926 according to WorldCat, never registered in the U.S., and unless the then 45-year-old translator, Author:E. M. Edghill, died before it was published, of which there's no notice in the 1928 version, was not in the public domain in Great Britain in January 1996. ResScholar (talk) 22:15, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


 * This work was previously nominated by John Vandenberg and discussed here: Possible_copyright_violations/Archives/2007-11.  Not having a complete grasp of URAA and U.K. copyright notice-law, I argued that the Aristotle works weren't copyrighted in the U.K., because they didn't have a copyright notice.  That's probably wrong, and it doesn't make any difference to the laws of U.S. restoration status of works foreign to the U.S.


 * On the other hand, this text is also at Project Gutenberg, which argues for its public domain status.


 * My researches in that earlier discussion turned up a 1927 work called Aristotle Selections which contained parts of the Oxford Aristotle edition that contained Categories, so it was probably published before the [1928] Oxford edition in the U.K. or after an independent (and possibly different) 1926 U.K. version.


 * Let's assume for the moment it was first published in the U.S. If true, it was not renewed and is out of copyright here.  But the problem is, I don't think Categories was published in its entirely in Aristotle Selections.  In the on-line Questia version, of which part is hidden from non-subscribers, the first page of the Table of Contents only lists the parts:  some of 2, 3, 4 and some of 5 out of the 15 parts.  ResScholar (talk) 00:09, 7 February 2010, [bracketed part added 8 February, 2010]  (UTC)


 * On the third hand, Aristotle Selections had its copyright renewed by the general editor, W. D. Ross. Can this editor copyright the translated selections on behalf of each of the translators?  ResScholar (talk) 00:23, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I found a replacement for this work written in the 19th century by a fellow named Owen. I only looked at the first sentence, but E. M. Edghill seems to have a better grasp of the meaning of that sentence.  I'd like to replace it anyway to be on the safe side, but in the meantime let's keep Edghill's, since the well-publicized Project Gutenberg has it, and we can plead an ad hominem argument based on the favorable reputation of PG's copyright staff if anyone questions our judgment. ResScholar (talk) 06:47, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * On a more community-based addressing of this problem in this rather long (and growing) soliloquy, this seems to be a case for {{tl|Not-PD-US-URAA}} which was developed from a Scriptorium discussion to gradually remove works like this one. So if anyone has a request to remove this work any later or sooner than I suggested, or a disagreement of the application of this template, I'm all ears.  ResScholar (talk) 06:28, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Rhetoric (Aristotle)
If this work was published in 1924, it has the same problem. It was not in the public domain in Britain in 1996 because the translator lived till 1929. I'm putting a Not-PD-US-URAA template on it as well. ResScholar (talk) 22:06, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

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 * delete and the 1988 UK that sets the term at 70 years would seem to include this work under copyright. — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:22, 24 April 2010 (UTC)