Wikisource:Copyright discussions/Archives/2008-04

Pirates of Venus
Hello, This book by Edgar Rice Burroughs was published in 1934, and is still copyrighted according to onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu. Yann 23:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see any copyright renewal on it at Stanford...seems PD to me. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Honoré de Balzac 02:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. See [ page log], earlier discussion.--GrafZahl (talk) 14:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding this. Copied to Wikilivres. Can be deleted. Yann 18:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * THat was your comment in 2006 when there was no evidence of renewal, and I haven't seen any new evidence of renewal. Am I missing something? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Honoré de Balzac 19:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I would trust onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu about copyright matters. Is it possible that Stanford doesn't have all renewal? Yann 19:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * So we're basing the assumption on the requirements of Stanford's database being incorrect (never known to happen), Rutgers (never known to happen) and the Copyright Office pageScans of renewals (virtually impossible to happen)? That seems like quite a stretch. I'd say this is a strong Keep. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Honoré de Balzac 20:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahem* Never? How soon we forget!
 * Keep. Stanford's listing doesn't have it and manual searching hasn't turned up a renewal, so it is public domain. --Mkoyle 22:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Unless someone can show this was first published outside the U.S., it's a slam dunk. ResScholar 17:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Seven Dada Manifestos and Lampisteries
This a collection of works by Romanian Tristan Tzara (1896–1963); some of these may be covered by PD-manifesto or even PD-release, but the earliest collection of them is 1977 (London/New York), and [http://serlib0.essex.ac.uk/search?/XLampisteries&SORT=D&searchscope=5/XLampisteries&SORT=D&searchscope=5&SUBKEY=Lampisteries/1%2C2%2C2%2CB/frameset&FF=XLampisteries&SORT=D&searchscope=5&2%2C2%2C. Lampisteries] is only held in one library and is translated by B. Wright. John Vandenberg 03:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC) Deleted. Tarmstro99 19:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Original may be OK (pre-1923), but English should consider rights of translator. Eclecticology 19:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Look out, Eclecticology, you were shot down by our pals at Romanian Wikisource. They have a copyright notice on the author page giving the copyright expiration year as 2034 for Tzara's works, Romania apparently being a pma-70 country.  Since Tzara's first publications in the U.S. were long after 1923 (1977), he's still covered.  ResScholar 09:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (Actually I was so eager to portray Romanian Wikisource in action, that I forgot to check if this author published works before 1923. It turns out he did.  Sorry Eclecticology (insert foot in mouth)). ResScholar 08:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In this case, however, Wikipedia says the manifestos were first published in 1924, so the reasoning still stands. ResScholar 08:52, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless we know who the translator is. —Quadell (talk / swapmeet) 01:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per reasoning above ResScholar 09:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Dancing-Girl's Song
According to User talk:Fabometric, the translator died in 1993. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Deleted.--Jusjih 03:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)