Wikisource:Copyright discussions/Archives/2006-09

Works by recent popes
We have some works by popes who have not been deceased for more than 70 years. Here, I'm guessing that Vatican copyright law is equivalent to the Italian one. While these works are meant to be spread, the Vatican seems to try to enforce its copyright, see and  (search for vatican copyright to find more). The works in particular are listed below. Note that some of them were published even before the authors were elected pope, which may complicate matters further. --GrafZahl 12:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * On the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons (1986, author alive)
 * On "The Many Faces of AIDS" (1988, author alive)
 * Ecclesia Dei (1988, +2005)
 * Catholic-Orthodox joint declaration of 1965 (1965, +1978) (probably OK, didn't blank)
 * Divini Redemptoris (1937, +1939)
 * Non Abbiamo Bisogno (1931, +1939)

Deleted Except the joint declaration --BirgitteSB 02:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * A note that this is (sadly) correct, the Vatican announced it was placing all Papal writings under copyright last year - and while there was talk of their trying to retroactively include past popes, I don't think that succeeded. But certainly the recent popes are suddenly copyrighted where they didn't used to be. Sherurcij (talk) (CRIMINALS ARE MADE, NOT BORN) 11:03, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Rutgers University
It says that the song is from a musical made in 1947. - Politicaljunkie 23:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Song removed. Once the page is split up, and the current page deleted, it will be all but permanently gone.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 20:00, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Getman Gulag Paintings
Was uploaded by User:Mike18xx, apparently with the permission of the Jamestown Foundation. However, it is not in the public domain, or explicitly licenced under the GFDL or another compatible licence. User has also uploaded Image:In the NKVD's Dungeon.jpg to Wikisource, and Image:Getman collage.jpg to commons. I have informed the user on his talk page. of our copyright policy--Shanel 05:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted the text. Shall Image:In the NKVD's Dungeon.jpg be deleted as well?--Jusjih 07:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Sunny Grey & The Early Story Of Sunny,
Also Author:Albert Solomon. Author born in 1977 story is a TV serial.--BirgitteSB 01:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC) I just noticed this had been listed at WS:DEL today. Whicever process it is deleted by makes little difference to me I will go tag these with --BirgitteSB 01:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The Meaning of Hegel's Logic amd Author:Andy Blunden
Blunden was born in 1945, and I can find nothing that says he has released his works into the public domain.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 13:54, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Rules of the Eurovision Song Contest 2003
Same as while the web site says "© EBU 2006".--Jusjih 13:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The Lottery by Author:Shirley Jackson
Please double check the copyright status of The Lottery. As it was first published in the June 28, 1948, issue of The New Yorker, it is unlikely that this work is in the Public Domain.
 * I agree this is a copyvio the author page should be deleted as well since she was born in 1916 I imagine everything is under copyright.
 * Wow. I'm surprised this one has been overlooked for so long.  Delete.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 02:10, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Deleted.

A Rose for Emily
Published in 1930. --BirgitteSB 17:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 21:07, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

A Statement on the 60th Anniversary of the United Nations
This is another work by the Bahai Community. We've deleted the others (that we know of) done by them for copyright reasons. We should probably delete this one, as well.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 20:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 21:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Declaration of Democratic Confederalism in Kurdistan
Copyvio via translation. It is lifted from --BirgitteSB 02:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 21:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Democratic People's Republic of Korea's Socialist Constitution
Copyvio via translation. Source is listed as --BirgitteSB 17:59, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 21:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Posen speech
1943 speech in German. As it was translated by an private person (Carlos Porter) he would have copyright on the english uploaded here.--BirgitteSB 13:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 02:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Toluene MSDS
Obtained from www.msds.com This site claims copyright and surely Chevron does as well.--BirgitteSB 18:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 02:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Tony Benn Interviews Saddam Hussein
The broadcast this transcript was obtained from must have been copyrighted.--BirgitteSB 18:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not sure, but I believe there was a previous page involving a TV interview that was deleted. - Politicaljunkie 23:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The page was an interview of Dick Cheney by Brit Hume.


 * Deleted.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 22:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Transwiki:Electric bicycle laws
Under Crown Copyright--BirgitteSB 19:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted.—<font style="color: #000000; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold">Zhaladshar <font style="color: #FF0000; font-size: small; text-decoration: none">(Talk) 22:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Transcendental logic
Copyright Neske Verlag, Pfullingen, 1961. Vols. 1 and 2. --BirgitteSB 19:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Deleted. Politicaljunkie 23:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

JonBenét Ramsey ransom note
I'm not sure of the copyright status of this private blackmail correspondance. None of the criteria for public domain seem to match. // [ admin ] Pathoschild (talk/map) 10:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Personally I can't imagine it's any less public domain than Category:Leaked Classified Documents - the problem is that copyright law has a lot of vague empty spaces, as already addressed with the issue of suicide notes. Personally, the litmus test I mentally use is "Could I reproduce this in a book I was writing?", and the question is invariably "yes" - in fact in this instance, I believe it's been done several times, as well as newspapers publishing it without any kind of a byline or credit. I agree Wikisource must largely give the benefit of the doubt to anybody claiming copyright, but in instances where nobody ever has claimed copyright, I think we should avoid paranoia. Sherurcij (talk) (CRIMINALS ARE MADE, NOT BORN) 10:50, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This would fall into the category of "orphan works" I believe. Unfortunately US Copyright law has no provision to deal with anonymous works or works where the author is unknown or unverified. Currently is legislation being worked on, at least I hope it still is. I suggest we make copyright tag for orphan works specifiaclly. Although they are not techniclly public domain in the US at the moment. They also have no known copyright holder whose rights we could possibly be infringing.--BirgitteSB 13:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Created, which tries to address that, and also adds the work to PD-presumption category.  Welcome any changes or rewording, as I am indeed still only mortal. Sherurcij (talk) (CRIMINALS ARE MADE, NOT BORN) 21:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)