Wikisource:Community collaboration/Monthly Challenge/Nominations/Archives/2022

A Treatise on Painting

 * A treatise on painting by Leonardo, da Vinci
 * I find this an excellent nomination. The April challenge is quite full already, and there are still some open nominations of which I might add one or two for April. I propose to add this for May. -- Tylopous (talk) 06:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Great, can you upload the pdf file? 2001:4450:8145:7800:A45E:12F6:9D5B:5B87 00:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've just uploaded the djvu, in preference to the pdf, to File:A Treatise on Painting.djvu. Where a djvu is available it's a better option here for various technical reasons. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:56, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've just created an Index Index:A Treatise on Painting.djvu 2001:4450:8145:7800:45EB:98D3:F6A:62A7 07:06, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * For May challenge 2001:4450:8145:7800:18B0:C5AB:4E1F:F676 07:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅: This section was archived on a request by: Tylopous (talk) 07:42, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Diuers voyages touching the discouerie of America
I nominate Diuers voyages touching the discouerie of America,... by Richard Hakluyt. It's one of the shorter works of this author. The OCR doesn't give very good results. Tylopous (talk) 13:39, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I will try to re-OCR with the Mannheim Fraktur OCR models (which have still not been installed on the OCR tool, so they have to be done offline). Inductiveload— talk/contribs 16:56, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's great, thank you! Tylopous (talk) 17:11, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ as Index:Diuers voyages touching the discouerie of America - Hakluyt - 1582.djvu. It's not perfect (and I doubt it can ever be), but it's quite a bit better. For the record, the OCR model used was Fraktur_5000000 from here (and the request to add it to the OCR tool is being carefully ignored by the OCR tool maintainers here).
 * The sidenotes will probably cause chaos, so I'm not sure this will be a good MC candidate until both the Mannheim models are installed on the OCR backend, and the regional OCR (that allows to select a rectangle of text to OCR rather than the entire page and the work was done months ago, but is not reviewed or merged) is added to the on-wiki UI. Neither of these appear to be likely to happen. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 22:00, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Tylopous Will put it in for February. Languageseeker (talk) 22:09, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 03:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Index:The Case of Charles Dexter Ward - Lovecraft - 1971.pdf
The only novel of Author:H. P. Lovecraft (the rest are novellas and short stories). We have a non-scan-backed version at The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. Also this is a little interesting because the book escaped renewal, along with it's 1980s cover by a fairly well-known sci-fi cover artist, Michael Whelan. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 23:34, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I was already thinking about this one. :) Languageseeker (talk) 00:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 01:49, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Index:Robert William Cole - The Struggle for Empire; A Story of the Year 2236 (1900).djvu
Longstanding requested text, 19th century science fiction featuring space combat etc., no works by the author currently. MarkLSteadman (talk) 03:24, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Run in Feb 2022Languageseeker (talk) 03:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 03:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Index:Memory; how to develop, train, and use it - Atkinson - 1919.djvu
done, only validation is needed

Also upload the audio from https://librivox.org/memory-how-to-develop-train-and-use-it-by-william-walker-atkinson/
 * Already proofread making it ineligible for the MC. Languageseeker (talk) 03:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 23:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Index:The Science of Getting Rich - Wattles - 1910.djvu
Index:The Science of Getting Rich - Wattles - 1910.djvu
 * I'll run this for April. Languageseeker (talk) 02:47, 5 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Has been added for April.Tylopous (talk) 19:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Tylopous (talk) 19:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Problems editing some chapters, only view source available
 * The Science of Getting Rich/Chapter 2
 * The Science of Getting Rich/Chapter 3
 * The Science of Getting Rich/Chapter 4
 * The Science of Getting Rich/Chapter 9 112.207.15.117 03:23, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, the pages you link to have been protected so that they can only be edited by autoconfirmed users. (Basically this means you need an account and need to have made some edits with this account.)
 * We'll get to this text in April. Perhaps the proofreading will be very quick, and after this we can transclude the text. Let's first proofread the index page by page though. -- Tylopous (talk) 06:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * the text was proofread and the page status should be changed 112.207.15.117 20:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Upload audio from librivox
 * https://librivox.org/the-science-of-getting-rich-by-wallace-d-wattles/ 2001:4450:8145:7800:18B0:C5AB:4E1F:F676 07:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Partly done. The audio files The Science of Getting Rich xy - Wattles - Librivox.ogg with xy between 00 and 17 have been uploaded to Commons. It will take a bit of technical editing to include the files in the pages of the chapters.--Tylopous (talk) 20:03, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Index:The Wisconsin idea (IA cu31924032449252).pdf
This is book by summarizing the philosophy and thinking behind the progressive movement in Wisconsin. We don't have any completed works by this author yet. The book has an introduction by which, suprisingly, is already on WS. Ciridae (talk) 12:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ciridae  Languageseeker (talk) 19:03, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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Index:The Life and Times of Sir Alexander Tilloch Galt.djvu
A biography of Sir, a father of the Canadian Confederation, by. We don't have any works by this author yet. Ciridae (talk) 16:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ciridae I'll run this for April. Languageseeker (talk) 02:48, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Ciridae (talk) 09:54, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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Two volumes by
Tarbell's two volumes on the History of the Standard Oil Company (Volume 1 & Volume 2) were bestsellers, and may have started investigative journalism as a methodology. Also, trust-busting followed after it. Should be under Women writers. Ciridae (talk) 16:31, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ciridae  Languageseeker (talk) 18:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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Index:The Federalist, on the new Constitution.djvu
One of the key texts of US history. Valjean and I have started the work on it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:46, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @WhatamIdoing While I support this text, I'm not in favor of this edition. The text appears to have originally been published in 1818 and this 1857 is a retypeset reprint. Since retypesetting can introduce errors, I would only support the original 1818 edition. I've created an here. Is that ok? Languageseeker (talk) 18:40, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I would second this, especially for a work like this where there are many different editions it is quite helpful to have the years / editors / publishers very clear. MarkLSteadman (talk) 19:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * The originals were published in newspapers in the late 18th century.
 * I'd be happy to have any scan-backed edition, of course. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:59, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @WhatamIdoing Yes, that is true. However, if you read the preface, this edition came out in 1818. The 1857 edition is a reprint of this 1818 edition. Languageseeker (talk) 23:53, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

We need to halt all editing of that edition until this is settled. I don't want to waste any more time. Please protect all the pages. Please ping me. -- Valjean (talk) 18:05, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Valjean I'm very sorry for this situation. I'm going for the 1818 edition and not the 1857 reprint. If it's any consolation, the Transcribe Text function seems to produce extremely excellent results. Languageseeker (talk) 21:09, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * In a sense I have no horse in this race and no dog in this fight. What's at stake is the purpose of Wikisource, and I'll just do that.
 * Is it like Wikipedia's (document the sum total of human knowledge), or like The Internet Archive (keep a copy of the internet)? If so, then my efforts were not wasted because we're keeping a copy of every fucking work ever printed.
 * So what are the "inclusion criteria" here? No more editing on this project of any kind until that question is definitively settled. Seriously.
 * There should be an approval committee. Only that which passes their approval becomes a project here. No more fuck ups like this. -- Valjean (talk) 21:50, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry. My comment above was a bit glib. I personally would be more interested in proofreading that specific edition for the reasons I mentioned above but I understand that you might see it as a bit dismissive or condescending, sorry about that. My thoughts about the value should no way be privileged over yours or what was started (and I should have been more cognizant that the time for discussing which edition had passed). In my personal point of view, WS is a mix of both philosophies you mentioned and should be supportive of both as a community, although monthly challenge has tended more towards selecting first editions when available. MarkLSteadman (talk) 22:37, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Oops! No need to apologize. You did nothing wrong. You just made me aware of a glitch in the way things work here, so I appreciate that knowledge. Now we need to fix it. -- Valjean (talk) 23:04, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * As said, in general we can host multiple versions and editions no problem so if you proofread it that isn't wrong or duplicative (if scan-backed and of high quality), so which edition shouldn't stop you, and having a version is better than not having one. On the other hand, if you ask on MC than you might an opinion from those who have opinions about editions, versions etc. in terms of their view of the relative merit and how they would do t. MarkLSteadman (talk) 23:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Valjean @MarkLSteadman Generally, any edition is allowed. However, not every edition has independent merit. Some are mere reprints of others. Before the advent of mass-duplication techniques, such as electrotyping or stereotyping, each new edition had to be reset from type. So there are original editions to which the author contributed to and reprints which are retypeset versions of original editions. These reprints can only ever be as good as the original edition and they almost never are. Printers worked on an extremely tight schedule and budgets usually resulting in multiple errors. Therefore, if at all possible, Wikisource tries to include the original editions. In this case, the 1818 is the original edition and the 1857 is a reprint. If the 1857 was a separate, original edition, I would happily include it, but it is not.
 * German Wikisource has a system of approval and its resulted in one of the lowest amount of pages proofread or validated of all the Wikisource projects. IMHO, community approval is worse than the problem. I'm really sorry that this happened. If you ever have any questions in the future, I'll do my best to help you out. Languageseeker (talk) 02:34, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Until this is sorted out, I'm going to advise caution for any participation at Wikisource. I have no doubt about the good faith of those who edit here, but if there is any risk that any effort is a time sink, it's not worth it. Not a single edit should be wasted time or duplicative. What can be housed here, and what should be housed here are two very different things. What's the point of having various editions, unless there is a significant reason for doing so? Even then, why not just do the part that's different, not the whole edition? -- Valjean (talk) 01:08, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Valjean Publication histories are hard. There is no big books that tells which editions is the best. Scholars spend years figuring this out and we're only a small group of volunteers. The 1818 and 1857 editions are both valid editions that belong on Wikisource. Given our limited abilities, the question becomes which one should be added first. In this case, I'm making the assumption that the 1818 publication is probably better than the 1857 reprint. But, I don't know. Nobody can now until both editions are proofread and then the texts are compared.
 * Wikisource allows multiple editions and you're more than welcome to finish the 1857 edition. If you decide to do so, then I'll just not run this in the MC. I'm really trying to make the Monthly Challenge a welcoming space for new users while growing the core collection of Wikisource and raising the overall quality. I don't feel comfortable asking users to proofread a reprint when the original is available. However, I not against someone doing it outside the MC.
 * Really this entire situation stinks and I wish there was a better way. All I can do is repeat how sorry I am. Multiple editions are the bane of my existence and the privilege of the very important texts. Whenever I get frustrated by the situation, I remember an episode of Red Dwarf where Rimmer tells how his family bible misprinted hop for hope resulting in his family hopping all Sunday. Somehow, the image of Rimmer hoping cheers me up. Languageseeker (talk) 02:29, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Languageseeker, @MarkLSteadman, can we get a scan of the 1818 edition? WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:40, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @WhatamIdoing: Languageseeker linked one up above. It's at Index:The Federalist (1818).djvu.@Languageseeker: It's not really true that we prioritise first editions. To the degree there is any generally applicable priority it is for scans that are best suited for proofreading (high resolution, not missing pages, good OCR, etc.). After that there are a number of criteria that are used, mostly based on the individual preference of the one doing the uploading and proofreading. For example, some contributors prefer the most recent edition (presumably based on an assumption that it will be most complete and have the most corrections to typos etc.). You, personally, prefer the first edition or editions which you assign some particular merit to. Others will prioritise editions that are illustrated to ones that are not, or illustrated by a particular artist. Or published by a particular publisher. Or the US edition over a UK edition (or ditto an Aussie edition). Or… All these are valid priorities and Wikisource accommodates all of them; and it only becomes a problem in situations like these, when your slightly dogmatic personal preference for first editions gets in the way of the pragmatic consideration that work had already started on the later edition. While I personally prefer first editions for my own work here, I think (as I've said before) that insisting on it to such a degree quickly turns into mere snobbery. My clear advice, fwiw, is to adopt a much more pragmatic approach for anything where you are not going to be doing all the proofreading yourself solo. For example, it wouldn't really hurt to save the first edition of an important work like The Federalist for a future MC, and prioritise the edition on which work had already started in the current MC.@Valjean: Wikisource aims to collect all editions of all textual works published ; but due to the severe mismatch between available proofreading capacity and the number of texts to proofread, we currently mostly proofread one edition of each work. Some popular works have many editions (Hans Christian Andersen's fairytales, Shakespeare's plays, etc.), but these are the exception. In theory, then, we should proofread every edition of The Federalist, but in practice we have to prioritise one edition. What criteria goes into setting that priority is mostly subjective, because Wikisource is an entirely volunteer-driven collaborative project and people contribute based on what interests them. But in the Monthly Challenge, which to a very large degree is Languageseeker's brainchild (for which they do not get enough credit, btw), their priorities have shaped the priorities of selection for the challenge (not unilaterally: many contributors agree with their priorities there). Preferring first editions is just one such priority: there is also a preference for variety in types of works, multiple categories of complexity, coverage of specific topics, geography, era, and so forth. It happens to clash with the edition of The Federalist that you had started work on, but in general this is a very good thing. Wikisource accommodates all, but the Monthly Challenge is more focussed. It is also more structured in format, where Wikisource in general cannot be. Not everything someone wants to do will fit well with the Monthly Challenge, and that's ok; not everything has to be a part of it. None of the work is wasted: we ultimately want both editions, it's just a question of which to do first. Xover (talk) 08:41, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Xover @Valjean If thought that this had the slightest independent value, I would run it. However, this appears to be a case where a printer in 1857 took a copy of the 1818 book, retypeset it, and printed it. There are no additional illustrations or content. Therefore, the 1857 edition can only ever be as good as the 1818 edition. It’s just a reprint. Knowing, the history of printing, it’s very unlikely to be an perfect. I’m trying to be as flexible as possible, but it also seems reasonable to avoid reprints as much as possible because they have no independent authorial value, especially for a long and difficult to proofread work. Languageseeker (talk) 11:13, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I’m also being a stickler for this book because it’s entire point is how accurate it is. There are thousands of editions of The Federalist Papers, but this is based on the original manuscripts and the original authors corrected the proofs. Accuracy especially matters in this case. Languageseeker (talk) 11:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Should that 1818 version be listed at The Federalist, then? That's where I found the 1857 version. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikisource needs to sort out what it's going to do with editions that have only trivial value. It should clearly point away from them, even if it doesn't forbid some editor from working on an edition that really adds nothing to the project.

I want a label on an edition that says it is THIS EDITION which Wikisource PRIORITIZES because it really WANTS to have THIS EDITION in its collection of various works. We need an RfC on this, an RfC that develops a guideline to keep this situation from happening again. Wikipedia has a guideline for dealing with trivia, and Wikisource should too, specifically regarding editions. Duplicative effort really is wasted time and leaves a feeling of futility and hopelessness. Why the fuck should I contribute here? I like doing proofreading as a change from the somewhat stressful environment at Wikipedia, but I want to feel that my work has a unique value. Right now it doesn't. Allowing editors to waste their time on editions of only trivial value is a crime against the good faith efforts of those editors.

Xover, I have no doubt that you are a skilled and good faith editor, but your words do not engender any hope that editors, especially newbies here, won't fall down a timesink rabbit hole where they feel they are doing something really important, something that will really make a difference, only to discover all their hundreds of hours of effort only added what amounts to one grain of sand that's pretty much exactly the same color as all the others in a bucket of sand, each representing different editions of the same work, and where the absence of their particular grain of sand will make no noticeable difference. Only editions of unique, essential, and important value should get the imprimatur of the project. Just as not all opinions are of equal value, so it is with editions. -- Valjean (talk) 16:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I support such an RfC but I am of the position that I would support Wikisource having even trivial editions alongside originals. The originals should of course take priority. However, we are a site of documentation. Even reprints with only minor difference between each other should still be kept into the project, because they show scan-backed evidence of the publication history of that work, which can be useful in some contexts. I have been thinking about how we should deal with reprints for a while now, but just haven't brought it to the Scriptorium yet because of a lack of hard answers. But, I think generally speaking, a reprint with for example a different title page and a different copyright page, with everything else being exactly verbatim the same, should have an Index page where the facsimile pages redirect to the original pages. This does work. It still doesn't solve the problem of facsimile TOCs and other links, though, which is something we may have to work around with a modification to the Wikisource software or a template. Some system like this would take out the factor of repeated proofreading of the same stuff, while also allowing these reprints representation on the site. Having separate versions of the same work is one of many things that separates us from Gutenberg, by the way, by making our collection inherently more exhaustive. PseudoSkull (talk) 18:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * It's okay if Wikisource wants to house everything, but a priority should be to get the basic components of a collection of sources done first (one key edition of each work), and those should be the original and best editions. After that, let people work on what they want.
 * Make a vertical list of different works, with horizontal lines for editions. Then decide which edition should be the first in each line: "If we could only house one edition of each work, which one should it be?" Then make sure THAT edition is proofread first, as Wikisource's library does not contain that work until it is proofread.
 * Rebuilding a library has been a real life project for me after losing everything in the 2018 Camp Fire in Paradise, California. I have had the dubious and forced "luxury" of being very selective as I have built up a new library of mostly used books in fine-to-new condition, usually without attempting to get a first edition. eBay and thrift stores are great. I prioritize just getting one of each (usually hard cover, sometimes leather), but have also succeeded in getting certain special "unexpurgated" editions of "banned" classics like "Lady Chatterley's Lover" (Lawrence), "The Lover" (Duras), "Delta of Venus" and "Little Birds" (1st edition!) (Nin). Those are valued by collectors of classic erotica.
 * So we need to first proofread the first works on each line. Now where is that list? 🤔-- Valjean (talk) 19:57, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That list doesn't exist. I don't even think that a list of all the books ever published exists. We're building that list on enWS, but we're constrained by very limited knowledge, a small set of scans, and a tiny volunteer basis. If you have any doubts about the value of a particular edition, feel free to ask in the Scriptorium before proofreading and I'm happy to take a look. Languageseeker (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not how Wikisource works, that's more like PGDP, where you must work under project managers who pick the works and control the proofreading of that work. At Wikisource, people can work on whatever they like, whether or not anyone else is interested at the time. Yes, this may mean that no-one proofreads your work or even cares, and if you abandon it, it might linger, unloved, for a very long time. But it also means that even if no-one else online this week, month or year cares, you can do what interests you and don't need to wait for a green light. It's also not true that proofreading the "wrong" edition is wasted work. If it's interesting enough for you to pick up, it must have had some value, even if only to you so far. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 22:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm only suggesting that editors are informed of the version with first priority, not that they are forbidden from editing anything else until it is finished. As far as your last sentence goes, I hope you're not suggesting that editing as a form of secret masturbatory satisfaction to oneself alone is really worth much to the project. I would hope that editing serves a higher goal, that of producing a product that others need and appreciate. If what I'm doing is not seen or appreciated, that is truly wasted time. -- Valjean (talk) 03:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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Between the Twilights by Cornelia Sorabji
For March, which happens to be Women’s History Month, I’ll also nominate this book by Indian author (who was also the first female advocate in India) under the category Women writers. Ciridae (talk) 12:21, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ciridae Thanks for the excellent nominations. Languageseeker (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hawthorne, Cather, Sinclair
Three notable American novels whose proofreading has long stalled:
 * Index:Scarlet Letter (1850) 2ed.djvu (2nd edition, with a preface and revisions by Hawthorne; considered the authoritative edition)
 * Index:My Ántonia (1924).djvu (1st edition of the novel by Willa Cather; the work is currently not backed by a scan)
 * Index:The Jungle (1906).djvu (1st edition of the novel by Upton Sinclair; the work is currently not backed by a scan)

--EncycloPetey (talk) 20:11, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @EncycloPetey Thanks for these. All great. I already put Index:Scarlet Letter (1850) 2ed.djvu for March. So great minds? Would it be to wait until April for the other two? The March slate is already quite full. Languageseeker (talk) 22:59, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Any time they are listed would be great. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:31, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * All three have been included (The Jungle for May): This section was archived on a request by: Tylopous (talk) 08:03, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Shorthand_by_the_typewriter

 * Index:Stenotypy-_or,_Shorthand_by_the_typewriter_.._(IA_stenotypyorshort00quin).pdf

And we all thought txtspk was a modern thing on mobile phones :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @ShakespeareFan00 I'll run it for April and see how it goes. Hope it gains traction. Languageseeker (talk) 02:49, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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The Small Library by
I want to nominate this book as it is about maintaining a library. So what if it is a century old and about physical libraries to boot; we’re still a library and libraries should have books about libraries. It’s also a relatively short work and we don’t have any other works by this author except a Britannica entry. Ciridae (talk) 12:14, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ciridae Why not. Even though this is an online library, I don't think that paper books will ever die. It's always a good idea to have the wisdom of ages here. Languageseeker (talk) 02:50, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Ciridae (talk) 09:54, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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Moby Dick
Moby Dick has been half-way proofread and is currently languishing. It might make sense to finish it off Index:Moby-Dick (1851) US edition.djvu. Languageseeker (talk) 00:51, 19 March 2022 (UTC)


 * is in the May challenge: This section was archived on a request by: Tylopous (talk) 08:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

The House of the Seven Gables
A recognized classic of literature []
 * Thank you for this interesting nomination. This month we proofread The Scarlet Letter, so it's fitting to continue with another important work by . If we can manage to upload the scan soon, let's put it in for April or May.--Tylopous (talk) 06:07, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Update: Scan uploaded (from IA) and index created: Index:The House of the Seven Gables - Hawthorne - 1851.djvu--Tylopous (talk) 15:25, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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Grimm's Household Tales
I'm considering running vol. 1 of Grimm's Household Tales in the April challenge. If there's anything speaking against this, please let me know. (Like it being part of another project, etc.)--Tylopous (talk) 20:59, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I do not know whether this is part of another project, but if possible TeysaKarlov (talk) 22:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * as well. MarkLSteadman (talk) 23:58, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

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Apollonius of Tyre
This text is apparently known as the 'first English novel'. I have proofread the Old English section and some of the Present-Day English translation. The only tricky bit would be the glossary. This would add to Wikisource's coverage of Old English texts following the Soliloquies and the Gospel of Saint Matthew in West-Saxon. Rho9998 (talk) 12:57, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the nomination. Even though we already have the St. Cecilia in the Old English series for April, I added this index, too, because it's relatively short.
 * The April challenge is quite full now. -- Tylopous (talk) 17:57, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Tylopous Thank you for adding this text. Good to hear you are doing a series of Old English works! Rho9998 (talk) 18:12, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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Rilla of Ingleside
Rilla of Ingleside by Lucy Maud Montgomery for Month of May.
 * Added for May. Note that Anne's House of Dreams also still needs to be proofread. We may want to add it after Rilla of Ingleside is proofread.--Tylopous (talk) 05:36, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

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The Murder on the Links
Index:Agatha Christie-The Murder on the Links.djvu


 * Hello, I noticed this section has been changed recently. I don't know whether you have seen that another index page of the same work The Murder on the Links is already a part of the March MC. I know that the index page linked to above has some more pages that are already created compared to the index we are using in the MC. But the number of actually proofread pages is roughly equivalent, so I'd say let's stick to the index we are using right now. --Tylopous (talk) 11:44, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Both are done only Validation is needed 2001:4450:81CA:B900:E9F7:2672:E35B:E1A 20:45, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

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Lucian's True History
I nominate A True Story (Index:LoebClassicalLibraryL014.djvu) by. Another possible index page is Lucian's True History. I'm interested in your opinions. Should we include it? (For May, perhaps?) If yes, which index should we work on?--Tylopous (talk) 19:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This is probably the author's most well-known work, and it's had a lot of influence for science fiction writers over the years. 70.124.147.243 03:41, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I would go for the 1894 Lucian's True History just for it's pictures. Languageseeker (talk) 12:16, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your recommendation. Added the version with images for May.--Tylopous (talk) 15:57, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

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Leaked SCOTUS opinion
Index:Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization - Court opinion draft, February 2022.pdf

Must as American politics isn't really my thing, it would be good to get a good version of this document transcribed, since it's surely going to be part of the media and legal landscape for a while, and at least might drive some interest towards Wikisource from passers-by. Full disclosure: the file is currently flagged for Commons deletion, but I'm pretty sure it will be closed as "keep". Inductiveload— talk/contribs 07:12, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @InductiveloadAdded it for May because of it's current importance that may fade. Languageseeker (talk) 11:48, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

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Daniel Deronda
Once Silas Marner is done, the next work should be Daniel Deronda. Languageseeker (talk) 00:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Good to hear from you! Thank you for all the three new nominations and especially for the guidance on works for the Women Writers series.
 * I agree we should include all three of these works eventually, but perhaps including all of them for April would make that challenge a bit too large.--Tylopous (talk) 06:28, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Tylopous I generally try to run around 15-18 works every month because I found that adding more works gets more users interested. We don't need to run all three in April. The Last Man is still running and I'm not sure if Silas Marner will be done. We should be able to squeeze in Moby Dick. Let's see how things are around the end of month. Languageseeker (talk) 22:38, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 00:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Lasserre - Spirit of French Music
Also a possibility is The Spirit of French Music, translated from the French of Pierre Lasserre. The title is a bit of a misnomer, as it is actually a collection of six discussions of French, Italian, and German composers. It does not contain sheet music, which makes it less useful to the music student, but easier to transcribe for a beginner. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for another very interesting suggestion. Thinking also of the Locke work, Philosophy and Music are of course two subjects we can aim to include more often. I see you created the author page, great. I admit I've never added a scan up to now, I'll try and have a go at uploading some scans before next month.--Tylopous (talk) 05:46, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * FYI: For Internet Archive works you can use the IA upload tool which makes it easy to get it into commons. MarkLSteadman (talk) 20:20, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I actually used this today for Locke's Essay, it just took me a while to read the relevant help pages.--Tylopous (talk) 20:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @PseudoSkull Added for June. Languageseeker (talk) 04:35, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 04:35, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

The original Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) from 1926
This should be in the public domain. Here's one source PDF: PseudoSkull (talk) 20:59, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Here is a transcription of it as well in PDF form. Can either of you pull the Washington Post version, or is there a better version out there to use? PseudoSkull (talk) 22:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * "Due to new European data protection law, this page is temporarily unavailable to you." tl;dr the Washington Post is so welded to analytics that they literally can't serve pages without it. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 14:25, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * PseudoSkull, Inductiveload: I have uploaded it here. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 18:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @PseudoSkull @TE(æ)A,ea. Added for June. Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

The House without a Key

 * Index:The house without a key, by Earl Derr Biggins (1925).djvu, by Earl Derr Biggers is the first in the popular series of Charlie Chan novels, which we surprisingly do not yet have. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:22, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * for June--06:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC) Tylopous (talk) 06:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Added for June. Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Dorothy Parker
I am noting Enough Rope (1926), the first collection of poems by Dorothy Parker to be published. I just created her Author page, and we have nothing by this famous American poet, playwright, and satirist. The collection might be good for Poetry month or for Women's month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:31, 29 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Uploaded from IA via IAUpload; index created: Index:Enough Rope - Parker - 1926.djvu--Tylopous (talk) 06:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @EncycloPetey Added for June. Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

The Education of Henry Adams
The Education of Henry Adams is listed on our Portal:American literature and at the corresponding WP article. The WP article states: "The Modern Library placed it first in a list of the top 100 English-language nonfiction books of the 20th century." It is currently not scan-backed. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:10, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Addendum: For context, the book was not commercially printed until 1918. The scan we have is from the privately circulated copy printed at the author's own expense in 1907. We will likely (eventually) want to have both editions, so the transcription from scan should probably be placed at a disambiguated title. I'll see about setting this up sometime today. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

The index for the 1918 edition is ready. I recommend the 1918 edition for the Monthly Challenge, as (1) this will replace an existing copy full of errors with a proofread copy, and (2) the LibriVox audio is for the 1918 edition. I am setting up the audio for the 1918 edition, though this will take time. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:03, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @EncycloPetey Added for June. Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

How the Other Half Lives
This pioneering and influential work of photojournalism is not scan backed and therefore it is unclear whether all the images are included. MarkLSteadman (talk) 18:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Index created at Index:How the other half lives.djvu Languageseeker (talk) 01:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @MarkLSteadman Added for June. Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

The Country of Pointed Firs
this is a collection of sketches of life in Maine and a classic of American regionalism (it was first serialized in the Atlantic Monthly, which we could also pick instead). MarkLSteadman (talk) 18:20, 1 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Index:The Country of Pointed Firs - Jewett - 1896.djvu Inductiveload— talk/contribs 14:21, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @MarkLSteadman Added for June. Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

All the Sad Young Men
F. Scott Fitzgerald’s third collection of short stories; it just entered the public domain this year. Available here. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 18:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @TE(æ)A,ea. I'm willing to run this if someone uploads the scan. However, the last Fitzgerald in the MC failed. Languageseeker (talk) 00:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @TE(æ)A,ea. Added for June. Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 04:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

As a Man Thinketh
Can someone check the copyright and upload it to Wikimedia Commons As a Man Thinketh As a Man Thinketh audiobook
 * Added for June. Uploading the audiobook still an open task.--Tylopous (talk) 15:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅: This section was archived on a request by: Tylopous (talk) 07:27, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Index:From Passion to Peace - Allen - 1910.djvu
added for July.--Tylopous (talk) 07:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)


 * This section was archived on a request by: Tylopous (talk) 07:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

A work by Ethel Snowden
I nominate a work by Ethel Snowden for the monthly challenge. Either "The Feminist Movement" (see ) or "Through Bolshevik Russia" (see ). Sorry for using IA links here if this is considered bad practice.

Additionally, we don't have an author page for this author yet and at least one of her works is listed in the page Philip Snowden, the page listing works by her husband. Tylopous (talk) 14:40, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


 * There's nothing wrong with IA links. In fact, as long they are decent quality (not Google or DLI), they're often excellent scan sources. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 17:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Author:Ethel Snowden now created and a few indexes added. It seems there is quite a bit of conflation with her husband in various bibliographic databases, probably because of automatic things misunderstanding the (slightly ironic, considering her politics!) "Mrs Philip Snowden" credit on title pages.
 * I don't have a preference to which of these goes in, or, if both, which goes first, but any of them, since we could do with getting at least one work onto Wikisource. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 21:31, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Another big thank you for setting up the author page. I've never worked on author pages before, so I was a bit reluctant to do this myself. Tylopous (talk) 15:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Tylopous you're welcome. Don't worry too much about getting it perfect: you can just rough out any author page and others can fill it in if you've missed something: almost any author page is better than no author page. This isn't Wikipedia where there's a whole process to keep an article "safe" (in fact, I don't think any author pages get deleted, assuming the author did actually write something!). If you just keep an eye on pages you create via your watchlist, you can usually see what it you can do differently next time, if anything. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 16:48, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Tylopous I'll put "The Feminist Movement" in for February. IA is my preferred source especially if the texts have the original color to them. Languageseeker (talk) 22:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Inductiveload Thanks! Languageseeker (talk) 22:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Could I suggest doing one of these in March? March 8th is International Women's Day, and the whole month is Women's History Month in a few countries. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:18, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Tylopous  "The Feminist Movement" has been added for March. I'll see how the work goes and then probably add "Through Bolshevik Russia" at a later point. Languageseeker (talk) 02:46, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * OK! I'm already happy that you added The Feminist Movement this month. I plan to contribute to its proofreading. (Though I'm a bit busy with other things currently.)--Tylopous (talk) 18:35, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Help on Musical Notes Symbols
 * Page:Through Bolshevik Russia - Snowden - 1920.djvu/46 2001:4450:8145:7800:18B0:C5AB:4E1F:F676 18:23, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
 * For this, maybe Scriptorium/Help is a better place to ask.--Tylopous (talk) 19:07, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Both works are done.
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 07:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

A work by Booker T. Washington
We currently have no scan-backed works by Booker T. Washington. Potential candidates here are Up From Slavery, Tuskegee and It's People or The Future of the American Negro  MarkLSteadman (talk) 22:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, we definitely need to scan-back Booker T. Washington. I feel like Up from Slavery' might be a good start. Languageseeker (talk) 22:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Added in February
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 07:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Index:First six books of the elements of Euclid 1847 Byrne.djvu
This 6 books should be nominated not because they are easy, but because they are hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTyAbi5z47Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GY5blTTeSA
 * I think that these are important works, but they appear to be too challenging for the MC. Hopefully, someone will proofread them soon. Languageseeker (talk) 23:27, 20 February 2022 (UTC)


 * The index was created in 2009 and it needs commitment from the volunteers to finish it 2001:4450:8123:7E00:F922:187C:F72D:1085 19:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I think that this one might have too many graphics and complicated math symbols for a general audience. Sorry. Languageseeker (talk) 02:47, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You are right but this Books have changed the world
 * and if anyone have problem they can find explanation in they link below
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewir8jyohyc&list=PLrkQ3hzZrc4j9gT0z--_CiFzQLeVb32hQ 2001:4450:8145:7800:E880:8070:9433:1E76 22:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 07:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Two volumes of the Book of Etiquette
For March, which happens to be Women’s History Month, I’ll nominate these two volumes (Volume 1 & Volume 2) by under the category Women writers. Apparently, the first volume was a bestseller. We also don’t have any works by this author yet. Ciridae (talk) 12:21, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ciridae Languageseeker (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ciridae Sorry, I forgot to put this in for March, but I'll put it in for April. Languageseeker (talk) 02:48, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That’s okay, there’s no hurry. Ciridae (talk) 09:54, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Added volume 2 for July.--Tylopous (talk) 06:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 07:05, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Index:The Keeper of the Bees.pdf
The Keeper of the Bees by Gene Stratton Porter

https://librivox.org/keeper-of-the-bees-by-gene-stratton-porter/
 * Added for August. Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Just upload the audio from
 * https://librivox.org/keeper-of-the-bees-by-gene-stratton-porter/ 213.166.147.254 19:06, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Index:Calculus Made Easy.pdf
Calculus Made Easy by Silvanus Phillips Thompson
 * Added for August. Languageseeker (talk) 15:12, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Index:The discouerie of witchcraft (1584) (IA b30337367).djvu
This is a first edition of an early work skeptical about 'extrordinary' claims. The suggestion is that this is a Monthly Challange for September/October, so that the work is ready in time for Halloween.

The second edition is in Early English Books Online, but I wasn't sure if it was possible to generate a DJVu for that, given technical and copyright reasons. 07:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

I've also uploaded a 1665 third(?) edition (Index:The discovery of Witchcraft (1665).djvu) and an 1899 version with a commentary Index:The discoverie of witchcraft (Nicholson, 1886 ).djvu). ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 07:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Support this in general. But the old editions, especially the 1584 one, are very long + in blackletter. From my experience with Index:Diuers voyages touching the discouerie of America - Hakluyt - 1582.djvu, I can say that it can be very hard work transcribing such pages, and Diuers Voyages was only about 120 pages.--Tylopous (talk) 05:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Added for August. Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Index:Susan and the Mermaid.pdf
I would like to nominate this short story which only needs to be validated. It has some beautiful illustrations and should be a fun one to work on. Kaldari (talk) 22:10, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Already validated. Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Index:Nihongi by Aston.djvu
I’ve made some good progress this month on the work, and will probably be able to finish it next month; thus, I ask for an extension. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Ciridae (talk) 05:28, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * @TE(æ)A,ea. Thank you for working on this. In general, I've decided to adopt an unofficial policy to give works automatic extensions as long as they are currently being worked out. Don't want people to feel rushed. If it yields good results, I'll make it official. Languageseeker (talk) 15:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Extended to August. Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 05:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

The Adventures of Pinocchio

 * The adventures of Pinocchio by Collodi, Carlo, Translated by Walter S. Cramp
 * The adventures of Pinocchio by Collodi, Carlo, Translated by Carol Della Chiesa from librivox.org
 * Hmm, there is already The Story of a Puppet and I can't find scans of Carol Della Chiesa. Is there any particular reason why the other versions should be added or are you just in the mood for some Pinocchio? Languageseeker (talk) 22:06, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Just in the mood for older translated book
 * https://www.booksonthewest.com/pages/books/5034020/c-collodi-carol-della-chiesa/the-adventures-of-pinocchio 213.166.147.163 23:35, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Makes sense, I added the Cramp translation. :) Languageseeker (talk) 01:46, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks 213.166.147.163 08:51, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Proofread in one week 213.166.156.201 04:23, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @213.166.156.201 Absolutely amazing work. Thank you so much! Languageseeker (talk) 13:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 13:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Index:The story girl.pdf
Another book by Lucy Maud Montgomery need to be nominated
 * adding this for June. In May, we still have Rilla of Ingleside to work on.--Tylopous (talk) 04:58, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your amazing work on these books. I'm going to run Lucy Maud Montgomery as a long-term series so that when one work is done another one is added. Languageseeker (talk) 23:35, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Added.
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 13:09, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Main Street
I keep finding great works of American literature that are not scan-backed. When The Jungle by Upton Sinclair is complete, we might follow it with Main Street (1920) by Sinclair Lewis. I've set up an Index page for the 1920 first edition. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC) Added. : This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 13:10, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Life on the Mississippi
The current version of Life on the Mississippi by Mark Twain is poorly formatted and missing the illustrations. A scan is available here [] for the 1883 edition. MarkLSteadman (talk) 19:50, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * There's File:1883. Life on the Mississippi.djvu on Commons. Seems to be a different edition with other illustrations. Could we also use that one?--Tylopous (talk) 16:17, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I created the index at Index:Life on the Mississippi (IA lifeonmississipptwai).pdf. There's a bit of a history behind the illustrations that I included on the talk page. Languageseeker (talk) 18:36, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

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Index:The last of the Mohicans (1826 Volume 2).djvu
Volume I was just finished, but I didn’t see this in September’s listing. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @TE(æ)A,ea. Put in already. Sorry, forgot to ping you. Languageseeker (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

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Index:Wieland (McKay 1887).djvu
Wieland by Charles Brockden Brown is the choice of novel for this year's U.S. Academic Decathlon. It is also considered to be the first American Gothic novel. It's author is "the most important American author before James Fenimore Cooper". We have no edition of this book at all.

I could not find a copy of the 1798 first edition, which seems to have had a limited run. There are many scans of the 1811 edition out there, and this seems to be the edition Gutenberg transcribed. However, the 1811 edition has multiple serious errors and alterations from the original edition, all of which seem to be the result of an unrestrained publisher. In the 1811 edition, a second subtitle "An American Tale" has been added; an opening poem before the work has been added; and the name of the author is wrong. All three of these issues are on just the title page. So the 1811 edition is not a reliable one. I found the 1887 edition published by McKay that tried to return to the original, without all the intrusive additions from the 1811 edition. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:58, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @EncycloPetey Support. Thanks for the research! Languageseeker (talk) 16:47, 5 September 2022 (UTC)


 * EncycloPetey, Languageseeker: I’ve picked up a copy of what (I think) is the 1798 first edition; I will be able to find out tomorrow whether it is. If it is, I will try to scan it by the end of this month so it can be placed on next month’s Monthly Challenge list. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 14:07, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @TE(æ)A,ea. That would be amazing! Languageseeker (talk) 22:32, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Languageseeker: The copy I got was not the first edition (it was a modern reprint) and I was redirected here, which appears to be a copy of the first edition. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * TE(æ)A,ea. That's disappointing. I really appreciate the effort. Languageseeker (talk) 01:45, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

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Nihongi
Volume 1 has been completed, so volume 2 can be added for next month. Pinging Languageseeker for the trade-off. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:04, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @TE(æ)A,ea. Awesome work on Volume 1!! Volume 2 added for October. Languageseeker (talk) 22:28, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: Nihongi, vol. 1 has been proofread, but not validated. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:48, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Added. : This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 13:10, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

The Game of Life

 * The Game of Life and How to Play it (1925) by Florence Scovel Shinn
 * This section was archived on a request by Languageseeker (talk) 02:23, 20 October 2022 (UTC) Added for November.

Index:New lands - (IA newlands00fort).pdf
I've currently been working on transcribing this by myself, but work has been slow. Do you think a work like this would be appropriate for the Monthly Challenge? Lizardcreator (talk) 03:54, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Lizardcreator Of course! I'll add it for November. Languageseeker (talk) 13:11, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by Languageseeker (talk) 02:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC) Added for November.

How to Analyze People on Sight

 * How to analyze people on sight by Elsie Lincoln Benedict and Ralph Paine Benedict
 * How to Analyze People on Sight an audiobook by LibriVox

How to Analyze People on Sight ✅


 * This section was archived on a request by Languageseeker (talk) 20:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC) Added for November 2022

The Fable of the Bees
Can someone check the copyright and upload it to Wikimedia Commons

Mandeville  The Fable Of The Bees
 * This is not the page for requesting copyright information or asking for upload help. This page is for nominations of works to include in the Monthly Challenge.


 * In any event, the Penguin Books paperback edition of this translation should not be the first choice for inclusion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 2001:4450:8156:4900:18B0:C5AB:4E1F:F676, EncycloPetey: See his author page. There is a 1924 annotated edition and the original edition  (called The Grumbling Hive: or, Knaves Turn’d Honest). 02:39, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by Languageseeker (talk) 20:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC) Added for November 2022

Civil Disobedience

 * On The Duty of Civil Disobedience by Henry David Thoreau
 * This is already available at Aesthetic Papers/Resistance to Civil Government
 * As part of Aesthetic Papers but this one is only 39 pages and can be reference as separate topic
 * There is also Man or the State?/On the Duty of Civil Disobedience. I'm heavily disinclined to run another reprint of a work where two good copies exist unless there is a compelling reason. 209.150.34.248 12:36, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * In wikipedia article Civil Disobedience you can see there is an Infobox book Template which has a field for wikisource to that topic only 213.166.147.224 13:17, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: The IA scan is for a modern reprint, but an individual printing of Civil Disobedience was proofread at Index:Thoreau - Civil Disobedience.pdf. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 01:28, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Monthly short work(s)
A while ago, I set out to look for short, public-domain works for another project, and I thought that those might be an interesting little addition to the MC. They are as follows: Any of these works, some more than others, may serve as interesting new works to be added. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Loves Garland (102 pp.) ✅
 * Produced by the “Odd Volumes” society—an interesting pseudo-alchemical/romantic work
 * Done at Index:Medical Heritage Library (IA b29007239).pdf.
 * “Muscles and Regions of the Neck” (25 pp.) ✅
 * some nice images
 * Done at Index:Muscles and Regions of the Neck.djvu.
 * “Notes Upon the Owners of the ‘Sancy’ Diamond” (44 pp.)
 * by William Waldorf Astor, one of the richest men in America at the time; very simple
 * Done at Index:Notes Upon The Owners Of The Sancy Diamond.djvu.
 * “Notices … of Roman Inscriptions Discovered … in Northumberland” (28 pp.+images) ✅
 * personally, I like looking at the inscriptions, like these
 * Done at Index:Notices by the Rev. T. Surridge ...of Roman inscriptions discovered at High Rochester, Risingham and Rudchester, in Northumberland ... (IA noticesbyrevtsur00surr).pdf.
 * “On the Character, Properties, and Uses of Eucalyptus globulus and Other Species of Eucalyptus” (14 pp.) ✅
 * a short lecture
 * Done at Index:On the characters, properties, and uses of Eucalyptus globulus and other species of Eucalyptus.djvu.
 * “A Physical and Topographical Sketch of the Mississippi Territory, Lower Louisiana, and a Part of West Florida” (34 pp.) ✅
 * an interesting early work
 * Done at Index:A Physical and Topographical Sketch of the Mississippi Territory, Lower Louisiana, and a Part of West Florida.djvu.
 * A Prospect of Manchester (35 pp.+a humorous number of blank pages) ✅
 * probably a better scan required
 * Done at Index:A Prospect of Manchester and Its Neighbourhood.djvu.
 * @TE(æ)A,ea. Awesome list. I've added Muscles and Regions of the Neck and A Prospect of Manchester for August. Languageseeker (talk) 15:09, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 01:22, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

How to Show Pictures to Children
The first suggestion for this little book came from Miss Elizabeth McCracken, editor of Home Progress, whose enthusiasm and sympathy have been a constant inspiration.
 * Added for December Languageseeker (talk) 00:14, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Languageseeker (talk) 03:03, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Jose Rizal
Famous author from the Philippines. Either of his two novels in translation would be good candidates: The Social Contract or  The Reign of Greed []. MarkLSteadman (talk) 15:41, 13 June 2022 (UTC)


 * very good proposal in my opinion.--Tylopous (talk) 16:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Ciridae (talk) 05:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Let's run them both. Index page for The Reign of Greed now exists. Languageseeker (talk) 13:44, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Ciridae (talk) 05:34, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

 * Index:Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire vol 1 (1897).djvu - we have only volume I of this seminal work. It would make another good long-term work.  Note that there are multiple possible editions, but we have none of them. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:42, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe this is an important work. Sure, we can definitely try the first volume; there are not many pages left to proofread. (The Appendix. Hmm, not really sure how I would format these braces...) I'll add the first volume for April. After that, I guess we just have to see how the work progresses. --Tylopous (talk) 18:52, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Managed as a long-term series. MER-C (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Jan 6 Committee materials
Should be easy but the transcripts have no OCR layer. Current affairs, clearly notable. MER-C (talk) 19:17, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Index:Introductory Material to the Final Report of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol.pdf
 * Index:Final Report of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol.pdf
 * c:Category:Depositions of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack
 * other supplementary materials
 * @MER-C Absolutely! Languageseeker (talk) 18:35, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I started uploading the interviews here: c:Category:Depositions of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack. MER-C (talk) 11:42, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * All 271 depositions uploaded. MER-C (talk) 10:01, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: Managed as a long-term series. MER-C (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

The Black Tulip
The Black Tulip by Alexandre Dumas
 * Are you still interested in this text? Languageseeker (talk) 08:45, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Maybe, but I don't have time for it. 86.60.40.58 11:29, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Would December be a better month? Languageseeker (talk) 12:37, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Holidays 213.166.147.224 13:31, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, let me know when you would like me to run it. Languageseeker (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The Black Tulip 86.60.40.58 11:38, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ready 86.60.40.58 09:51, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * https://librivox.org/the-black-tulip-by-alexandre-dumas/ 86.60.40.58 10:18, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Listed for July 2023. MER-C (talk) 19:31, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * how about upload the link below:
 * https://librivox.org/the-black-tulip-by-alexandre-dumas/ 82.167.161.243 15:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * You would need to pull .ogg files for the audio and upload them to a suitable category at Commons. We don't host audio files here at Wikisource.  But once the files exist at Commons, we can link the audio files.  However, please first check that the audio recording match the specific translation here.  The audio may come from a different translation. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:01, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:26, 8 January 2024 (UTC)