Wikisource:Administrators' noticeboard/Archives/2023

Minor edit to Module:Optional style
Hi! Please change  to. It creates errors when I use  in other modules that depend on this one. (Module:Optional CSS attribute is a fine workaround, but it would still be good to fix this.) —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 08:37, 18 February 2023 (UTC)


 * @CalendulaAsteraceae done Mpaa (talk) 18:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Mpaa Thanks! —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 23:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 23:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Roll back request... (resolved)

 * This section was archived on a request by: ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:48, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Over the past 24 hours I'd been boldly attempting to standardize links to works on Internet Archive from ext scan link and raw links over to an enhanced version of IAl (which is now documented}}, IA small link and IA small links.

However, a valid concern has been raised that there isn't a current consensus about updating or standardizing these:-

I'd already started to review the efforts, to check for typos/errors made in the process of updating the links, when some concerns were expressed on my talk page... I've therefore reverted the updates that were made manually early in the process.

I would appreciate an admin doing a mass rollback on the updates that were boldly undertaken with AWB, because I wasn't sure how to undo those en-masse.

Start of the updates not already reverted is - oldid=13023699 End of the updates is at -  oldid=13027142

With exceptions of : Page, Template namespaces as I've already made reverts there. and:- https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Xover&oldid=13023743 https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Scriptorium&oldid=13023193 https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Scriptorium&oldid=13023240 which are not related to the link update effort. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Alternatively does someone here have a fast undo for bold edits made using AWB? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Discussed and resolved elsewhere. I would however like the views of admins on standardizing links to IA and other sites. Please use the thread I started in the Scriptorum. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:47, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Access denied for WS-Export for users on a VPN
I'm not sure if this qualifies as a Administrator's issue or a higher tech issue, but I just found out that if you try to export a book while on a VPN, ws-export throws the error message Access denied. Seems that we shouldn't be banning people on VPNs from downloading books. Languageseeker (talk) 14:01, 2 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @Samwilson: This sounds like something which you might have insight on? Xover (talk) 15:35, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, this is likely because the VPN's IP address is (or falls within a block of IPs) used by bots. WS Export gets hammered by bots, and we block lots (by IP and user-agent) in order to maintain stability and only use resources for actual people. We can unblock specific IPs, so if anyone is finding themselves blocked they should send their IP to tools.community-tech-tools@undefinedtools.wmflabs.org (of course, only if they're happy sharing it; if not, I'm not sure there's much we can do). Sam Wilson 22:53, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:43, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Page:The Path to the Stars, by K. E. Tsiolkovsky, English transl., AD0644808.pdf/456
Hi, Please delete that page. A redirect was created where it shouldn't. Thanks, Yann (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


 * @Yann: ✅ For the future reference, the speedy template is sdelete ( is "unneeded redirects", is "author's request", the latter being the simple catchall when you're the only one that's edited the page). We generally process speedy deletion requests faster than we catch stuff at WS:AN (AN is pretty sleepy these days). Xover (talk) 19:47, 15 January 2023 (UTC)


 * This section was archived on a request by: Yann (talk) 16:25, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Index:Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music.pdf
Hi, Could someone please undelete this page? AFAICT, there is no reason to keep this deleted now. So then the public domain pages could be transcluded. We already have the plain text version. Thanks, Yann (talk) 17:38, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Yann: Please don't fork this discussion to (yet more) other venues. Undeletion discussions related to copyright happen on WS:CV, where there is already an open discussion about this and any action taken will happen when that discussion is closed (a discussion, incidentally, that I know you're aware of since you have commented in it, but which you didn't bother linking when posting the request here). I'm swamped IRL right now, but closing that discussion (and the rest of the backlog on WS:CV/PD) is at the top of my list when I get some available time. And as has been explained multiple times, we can't undelete that index while the file it's backed by contains copyrighted material. The compatibly licensed parts of the work have already been recreated. If you want to improve the formatting on Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music a more productive approach would be grabbing those from the pages in Special:PrefixIndex/Page:Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music.pdf/. Xover (talk) 18:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, that discussion is stalled, there is no new argument for a long time, that's why I request an admin to process it. Sorry if I was not clear enough. And you are the only one opposing the undeletion. Yann (talk) 19:59, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, based on the current stalled discussion it would be closed "not done" as the work as uploaded contains copyright material. So, I would encourage you to continue a reasonable conversation at WS:CV rather than this unreasonable request here. — billinghurst  sDrewth  21:15, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:03, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Rollback
Hi, Could I get rollback please? That would be useful revert tests and vandalism. Thank, Yann (talk) 20:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * We don't have standalone group with the rollback right per special:ListGroupRights. The last discussion about that would have been c. 2010 when I proposed it and the community determined that it was not a requirement. — billinghurst  sDrewth  20:54, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:02, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Block
FYI, I have blocked User:Stellahk99, see User_talk:Stellahk99. This is one of a group of new users who struggle to understand quality expectations. It is too much work to follow up what they are doing. Mpaa (talk) 21:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The issue is with marking pages as proofread or validated that have very clear and obvious errors (probably without even actually proofreading them). This user clearly does not understand what it means to proofread, so their contributions should not be trusted. To go a little further, just from checking a few contributions from this user, I can still see a massive amount of these errors in their "proofread"/"validated" pages. In fact, I haven't found any pages that don't contain significant amounts of errors; it would be a miracle to find even one. So, a mass reversion may also be due. PseudoSkull (talk) 21:53, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @PseudoSkull Several users have worked proofreading/validating each other on Index:What will he do with it.djvu and other works. From what I can see from their talk pages and contributions, some are following guidance, some are not. Even if we revert this single user's validations, we would probably fall back to Proofread pages with the same (poor) quality.
 * I am following up Index:What will he do with it.djvu, but this work is huge and not easy to fix (the text was probably copied by a different version, so it is full of those subtle punctuation and spelling variants).
 * BTW, the block will last one week. Mpaa (talk) 22:19, 5 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm working through Index:Elizabeth's Pretenders.djvu and re-validating and then transcluding. Reverting them on this one would get rid of my work. It's not just this user. Also User:SM DENIS, User:Mugumejudith, User:Njuba, User:Kalyamagwa, User:Pine12k, User:Atyang344, and User:Fiktube are involved in the same behaviour. The group is also working on Index:What will he do with it.djvu & Index:Caroline Lockhart--The Fighting Shepherdess.djvu with similar behaviours. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Good morning, Thank you message. Am sorry let me try to be keen and follow the guidance. Thank you Pine12k (talk) 06:55, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Surely it would be better to set the status to "not proofread" on every page touched by these users? That won't really help until someone (successfully) explains the situation to them, though. Or blocks the whole lot... 8582e (talk) 09:52, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  05:30, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Unblock 213.166.156.15
Valuable ip contributor who seems to have tripped an automatic block filter. Can someone unblock him. Languageseeker (talk) 06:38, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Just went to do so and the autoblock had already expired. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:31, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  05:29, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Dswsrc and Abuse filter
Please unblock the first user and block the second user; this just happened yesterday. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 01:31, 4 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, this keeps happening to me and I have no idea why, nor how to work around it. Here's the message:
 * The block was made by ‪Abuse filter‬. The reason given is
 * Automatically blocked by abuse filter. Description of matched rule: Continuing IP link spamming/vandalism.
 * Dswsrc (talk) 05:27, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  05:29, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Autopatroller Request for Seperation
Hi, I would love to request autopatroller status, if possible. I've been consistently making edits for over 3 years. I haven't had any complaints about major mistakes during this time. I just think it will be helpful to reduce the number of pages needing to be patrolled. Thanks! Seperation (talk) 10:03, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:50, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:50, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Threatening emails
I just received a threatening email from a user. I forwarded it to the Wikimedia Foundation. If anyone else received it, I'm not sure how else to deal with it without engaging the user further. (I've also blocked the user.) —Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:27, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It is most definitely this user: Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Projects PseudoSkull (talk) 02:06, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Wikisource: Constitution of Texas
I tried to make edits to add sections which aren't already included (due to recent amendments) but was prohibited with a warning that it was "automatically disallowed". How can this be fixed so I can make the edits? Quidam65 (talk) 18:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I have reverted your changes. Our documents are static as they are published versions of a time. The 2022 version should be its own version, and I will see if I can resurrect it separately from your contributions. It also looks s though there is a need for some general fixing anyway in that space. — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:02, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I was able to get a copy of the edits and create a 2022 version, and create versions. We should be looking for a scanned back version, or a complete electronic form and marking it as such. — billinghurst  sDrewth  21:53, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Moving all subpages in one click
Hi, Could someone move Above the battle and all subpages to Above the Battle. It seems special permission is needed to do so. Thanks, Yann (talk) 22:27, 13 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. Would be a good occasion to renane subpages from roman to numeral. Mpaa (talk) 08:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I didn't think about that. I guess that can't be done automatically. Yann (talk) 11:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Mpaa might be able to script it as a Bot request, maybe? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:56, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Not needed, I did it manually. Thanks for your answers. Yann (talk) 15:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

[Oh I cleaned it up as it came up in a maintenance log.] We would not typically keep redirects as subpages, we have found that they become problematic. I moved to chapter specifically in the name, if we are moving we may as well update to the style. — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Yann (talk) 16:23, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Protected edit request
Can somebody have a look at the protected edit request at MediaWiki talk:Epub.css, please? -- Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Jan.Kamenicek: ✅ Xover (talk) 09:35, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Hyperion Index Corrupted
The index for Hyperion, a romance.djvu is hosed up. Scanned text and source image are 2 pages off. Don't know how to fix it and doubt I would have the permissions if I did. snafu22q (talk) 07:48, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a classic problem from that period of time when the IA-upload tool tried to convert pdf to djvu and didn't do it very well. Working on replacing the file. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:58, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Updated file and Index now available. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:18, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Move
Hi, Please move Confessions (Rousseau) and its subpages to The Confessions of Jean-Jacques Rousseau (Aldus, 1903) to make place for disambiguation. Thanks, Yann (talk) 11:21, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The work as reproduced says "The Complete Confessions of J.-J. Rousseau", isn't that suitable? I can see 1903 if the remainder of the title is the same, however, the work currently produced doesn't have Aldus on the title page. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:29, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * This is the title used in the scans: Index:The Confessions of Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Aldus, 1903, v. 1.djvu. Aldus is to disambiguate from other editions with the same name. Yann (talk) 13:41, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Although Aldus printed this several times, it is unlikely we will have several copies here, so the date could be omitted. Yann (talk) 15:32, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Moved. I have omitted the publisher as well for now, mere existence of more editions is usually not a reason to disambiguate, we usually disambiguate only when we host more editions of the same work. I have also omitted the hyphen from the Rousseau’s name in the title to follow the original. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 21:44, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * After I was shown that there are already two indexes for two different editions, I moved it to The Confessions of Jean Jacques Rousseau (Aldus). --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

File move right
Hi, Can I get the file move right please? Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Yann: So far as I know we don't use the filemover right on enWS (among other reasons, because the volume of them is not even a fraction of Commons'). Just drop your move requests here (or feel free to dump them on my talk page). Xover (talk) 17:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Report concerning 2001:448A:2022:B44C:8986:B6C4:DD7:99B6
The IP is vandalizing pages by adding non-sense content. Esteban16 (talk) 01:45, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks like spam to promote a publication. All deleted / reverted. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:42, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Report concerning 2001:448A:2022:B44C:2035:2238:F555:CDD2
Vandalism only IP. 20041027 tatsu (talk) 14:02, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Created pages now also resolved. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:45, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  02:47, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Odd unblock request
User:Toobigtokale sent me a Wikimail asking to be unblocked. As far as I can tell, they have a single edit (to their userpage, also asking to be unblocked), and their block log reads:


 * 01:46, 14 July 2023 Abuse filter talk contribs block blocked Toobigtokale talk contribs with an expiration time of 2 hours (account creation disabled, cannot edit own talk page) (Automatically blocked by abuse filter. Description of matched rule: Continuing IP link spamming/vandalism)

Their email said:


 * Hi, I just got autobanned while trying to make an index page (for the second time 😥)


 * Could you unban me? I'll post on Scriptorium/Help for help to see what I've been doing wrong.

I'm not sure what is going on here, as I only see the one block, and no deleted user contributions. BD2412 T 02:37, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Without knowing what Index page they were trying to create, or what content they were trying to put in, it's hard to evaluate. Perhaps they included some spammy or vulgar content in their attempt, so the creation was automatically blocked?  There's no way to know without additional information. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:44, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Their assertion that they were autobanned for a second time suggests a previous account. I am not inclined to lift a 2-hour block on that account. Just want to be sure I am not being scammed here. BD2412  T 03:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The block log bears out a second autoblock. Billinghurst unblocked the first time as a "false positive". Looking at their recent global contributions, my guess is that they were trying to create an Index: page for c:File:Cilley report kim koo background information concerning assassination.pdf. Not sure why that would trigger as spam/vandalism. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:05, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see it now. Thanks. BD2412  T 04:19, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @BD2412, @Beeswaxcandle, @EncycloPetey: For autoblocks by the AbuseFilter you need to check the Special:AbuseLog to find the entry for where the block happened: Special:AbuseLog/161938. This log also includes full details of the edit that triggered it. And check the filter that blocked: Special:AbuseFilter/52. @Jan.Kamenicek has been working on this filter lately and is probably best placed to easily see what triggered the filter. Xover (talk) 05:56, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Jan Kameníček (talk) 13:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:28, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

License update
With the license being changed to CC BY-SA 4.0 the info at MediaWiki:Wsexport_about, which gets included in exported e-books, should probably be updated. /Lokal_Profil 19:57, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:27, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:27, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Edit request: redirect Template:Dent/e to Template:Div end
Like the title says. Template:Dent/e is a duplicate of Template:Div end and it would be tidier to make it a redirect. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 02:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ PseudoSkull (talk) 03:01, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: PseudoSkull (talk) 03:01, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Please add domain to whitelist
Got my first spam filter notice. From what I can discern, I'm supposed to request that an administrator add the offending URL's domain to the site's whitelist. So here goes...

The offending URL: https://XXX/492jILlPtlA?t=132 (replace XXX with the standard YouTube domain triggered by the filter)

Transcript file: https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Final_Report_of_the_Select_Committee_to_Investigate_the_January_6th_Attack_on_the_United_States_Capitol.pdf/271&action=edit&redlink=1

The link connects to a video that is reflective of the content.

Let me know what I need to do differently if I have to do this again. Thank you. Snafu22q (talk) 09:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ — you can go ahead and try it now if you'd like, see if that works. PseudoSkull (talk) 15:35, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It DID work. Thank you. Snafu22q (talk) 23:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The urls for youtube are easily modified to get through the blacklist component. Number one is don't use youtu.be and instead utilise the full youtube.com url. Secondly where we have blacklist components that are based on the variable after the question mark eg. youtube.com/?somebit=this&anotherbit=that, you can usually swap the variables around to youtube.com/?anotherbit=that&somebit=this The blacklist is a heavyweight hammer for domain only listings, though when we play outside of the domain name then we typically have plenty of play space. — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Plus if you are truly wishing to maintain the full look you can always do something like  and you get ZERO rejection. — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:37, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:51, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Another whitelist request
Hello, Admin types. I've been bitten by the spam filter so this message is to request adding the offending URL to the Spam-whitelist.

The file I'm working on is page 330 of: https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:Final_Report_of_the_Select_Committee_to_Investigate_the_January_6th_Attack_on_the_United_States_Capitol.pdf/

This is the string I was told triggered the filter: t.co/7JqTWYUgOr%22 (in item #272)

I was told in a previous request how to circumvent a YouTube URL from being activated, which I've used successfully now a number of times. If someone knows how to skirt this instance, I'd be interested in learning how.

Thank you. Snafu22q (talk) 08:21, 17 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Is there a form to submit requests to admins, like a ticket system? I asked for the above whitelist edit 9 days ago and nothing has been done as far as I know. I have no idea what their workload is, nor am I attempting to complain in any way, but now I have a couple of additional whitelist requests as well from the same work, and I just want to make sure I'm not making this harder than it needs to be.
 * In the event an admin reads this, the additional edits: (1) the first is like the original request ... though the string at the end is different, it starts the same: t.co/ and (2) from page 543, the string infowars.com is preventing the file from being saved.
 * Thank you. Snafu22q (talk) 09:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The slavish replication of the link is not required, feel welcome to have a twitter.com url, if you do want a replica looking link, then feel free to follow the link, then put, re the infowars link, just wrap it in  , no issue that it won't wikilink. — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:51, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:51, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Page protection?
Namely the following templates, which are widely used, assuming they do not have errors.

Internet Archive link,IAl,GBS,HTl, HathiTrust link, IA small link and ext scan link ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:52, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Though as a comment, we should have some rigour and stopped the proliferation of forked templates. If we need smaller text either just wrap it in {tl|smaller}} or if we need it as a template, then we should nest the parent template, not create yet another variation. If we have improvements, then we can have that flow through. — billinghurst  sDrewth  14:06, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Agreed, and there are efforts by others at the moment to consolidate certain templates as I understand it.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This is not about forcing to one template, I am talking about either having a base template and nesting that into parent template rather than all being done as a different construction. — billinghurst  sDrewth  21:59, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:50, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Edit requests for Template:RunningHeader
I've been working on migrating this template to Lua, and I'd like to implement my edits. I'm pretty happy with where it's at now, although I certainly welcome feedback.

Notes:
 * The logic for RunningHeader is at Module:RunningHeader/core. Implementations of other running header templates are at Module:RunningHeader. This will allow Module:RunningHeader/core to be protected while still making it easy to edit the other templates.
 * I've added support to RunningHeader for specifying the number of cells, meaning we won't need separate templates like Rh/5.
 * I've added the styles for RunningHeader-centered, Rh/1, Rvh/header, Rh/1rv, and Rh/3 to the stylesheet. (With the Lua module, the extra styles are the only reason we would need Rh/1 and Rh/3.)
 * Test cases: Template:RunningHeader/testcases.

Previous discussion:
 * WS:S#Code review for RunningHeader templates
 * Template talk:RunningHeader and Template talk:RunningHeader

Specific edit requests:  Replace the contents of RunningHeader with   Replace the contents of Template:RunningHeader/styles.css with  

Thanks! —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 03:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Still interested in this. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 04:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @CalendulaAsteraceae: Let's centralise the discussion to Template talk:RunningHeader. I'll follow up there. Xover (talk) 09:17, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:49, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Index:Rousseau - Profession of Faith of a Savoyard Vicar, 1889.pdf
Hi, Please delete this and all pages. I moved everything to Index:Rousseau - Profession of Faith of a Savoyard Vicar, 1889.djvu. Thanks, Yann (talk) 17:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Yann: ✅ Xover (talk) 20:14, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You can also mark such files for deletion with, just noting that it applies to all the subpages too. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:49, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Edit request for Template:Greek
I've implemented this template in Lua. Code at Module:Greek, template at Greek/sandbox, test cases at Template:Greek/testcases. The Lua implementation is a significant improvement w.r.t. template include size. 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Hydraulics has problems due to heavy use of Greek, but User:CalendulaAsteraceae/Staging, which contains the same content but using Greek/sandbox, can be transcluded to Sandbox without issue.

Edit request: replace the content of Greek with

Thanks! —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 07:12, 14 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @CalendulaAsteraceae: Sorry about the lame response time. Do feel free to contact me directly for stuff like this; and have no compunction about nagging on me if you think I've forgotten about it. The new implementation mostly looks awesome, but it's a good idea to make sure you have test coverage for all (major) code paths and features: Template:Greek/testcases. Xover (talk) 17:27, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Xover: Thank you! I've fixed the error, and I'll feel free to bug you more often in the future :) —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 05:47, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @CalendulaAsteraceae: ✅. Note that the improvements in runtime and memory use appear to be marginal, so 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Hydraulics may still show up in various error categories intermittently. The big remaining time-sink there is ts, and it's got some inherent expensive properties that I'm pondering optimizations for (optimizing it comes with tradeoffs in usability that aren't straightforward). Xover (talk) 09:05, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Xover, thank you, and good to know! —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 18:33, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

@User:CalendulaAsteraceae The Module implementation is not functioning correctly. I've posted a thread in the Scriptorium. I hope this can be solved quickly, because it affects the rendering of a LOT of Greek texts. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:10, 29 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @EncycloPetey: At first blush this appears unlikely to be caused by any changes in the module (or the template for that matter). Most likely it's related to the actual font and its treatment of ligatures, or the WebFonts module in MediaWiki. Xover (talk) 09:47, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:49, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Categorisation of works in the Monthly Challenge - bot blocked
User:InductiveBot has been blocked for adding Category:Monthly Challenge (June 2023) to the index Index:A Compendium of Irish Biography.djvu. It was doing this because the work was to the Monthly Challenge. After reverting the bot a few times, Billinghurst gave me about 1 hour's warning (at 3am my time) and then blocked it.

I maintain that representing the accurate current state of the MC in the relevant category is a fair task for the bot to do, regardless of how strongly a user feels that the work should or should not be in the MC. Notably, this function has been added because manual categorisation has been spotty.

While I can add a feature to avoid re-adding reverted works (hough this is non-trivial technically, so I'd really rather not), or, indeed turning the function off entirely if feelings about adding technical categories to Index are really that strong, I don't see that the bot's actions are harmful or unreasonable in that the category itself is designed to be merely a convenient collection of current MC state, and the bots actions are consistent with 2 year-plus practice using Pywikibot to assign categories automatically but on a manual schedule.

Another option is to remove the categorisation in the MC entirely, if it's deemed offensive. It is no longer required for technical purposes, other than as a convenient source of "which works are in the MC" for use by other tools as needed.

Anyway, as a bot has in fact been blocked, for avoidance of doubt and to play by the book, the function is now disabled pending a consensus decision on how (or if) this bot should work. The MC statistics function will, as currently configured, resume when the block expires. If this is not wanted, let me know. As this will be at 4am my time, the block could be extended to prevent it if needed (the bot has no other scheduled functions, so this will only inhibit the MC stats). Thanks, Inductiveload— talk/contribs 18:52, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I have addressed the specific points on your user talk page. In short, the documentation of your bot's activities is insufficient and there was neither information nor evidence to how else to resolve it. Noting that any admin should be able to stop a bot for performing problematic tasks without the sky falling in, AND without having to dig through reams of paperwork or contributions to understand what is happening. Bots I know that we have a casual process with regards to bot approvals/operations, however, we seem to have fallen right away with processes and the rigour to ensure that we have good clean bot activity clarity. — billinghurst  sDrewth  21:55, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * In general, the policy regarding bots is very laissez-faire, especially given the lack of monitoring of Bots, which is mainly used for specific bot requests rather than general authorizations. However, in this case, the block was entirely done because the administrator didn’t agree with a human-made decision which the bot implemented. The move was clearly protectionist, in violation of the general principles of English Wikisource regarding open collaboration, and was a clear abuse of power. This discussion should have been brought by billinghurst to ban the bot, not by Inductiveload to fix billinghurst’s action, in my opinion. This is especially the case because the block has severely impaired the major contributive project here. The bot should be restored to activity, and bans of this sort, common at Wikipedia, should not be perpetuated here. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 01:08, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * BS, please dismount your horse. You presume! I don't follow the project and had zero idea how it got into the list, all I saw was the bot operation. FWIW, the block was temporary and removed by me after Inductiveload explained the process and documented his bot's actions. There was no ban. There was no permanent impairment to the bot's activity. — billinghurst  sDrewth  06:10, 7 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I am fine with the bot, it is only meant to keep alignment and consistency. The task was seen as problematic only because billinghurst did not agree with the work being part of MC.Mpaa (talk) 19:07, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The bot was seen as problematic as it dumbly repeated its actions, and there was no explanation of the bot's actions, nor how to prevent them reoccurring. — billinghurst  sDrewth  01:16, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:48, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Speech at Prayer Meeting, Sabarmati Ashram
Hi, I raised an issue about the copyright of this page 2 months ago, and nobody has even cared to answer. See Copyright discussions. Thanks, Yann (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Without more information, I can't make a meaningful judgment. Based on your comments, you seem to know the date of first publication, but have not provided that information. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:31, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I don’t know the date of first publication, but supposing it was published shortly after being delivered, it won’t be in the public domain in USA before 2026. Idem for the other works I mentioned in my post. Yann (talk) 15:30, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:46, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Can someone please help restore an old page?
In this discussion:
 * Wikipedia:Talk:List_of_Eagle_Scouts

Which then leads to:
 * Erroneous Eagle Scouts,
 * File:CronkiteFondaStewartNOTEagles.jpg, and
 * Proposed_deletions/Archives/2007-12

Could someone please give me the deleted text? Perhaps here: User talk:Evrik/Erroneous Eagle Scouts

Thanks. Evrik (talk) 19:55, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * That data is very likely under US copyright—but only by technicality and I don't think anyone would care enough to sue—but still, we can't host copyrighted content here. According to the discussion linked, the work provided and the transcription provided had good reason to be deleted here at Wikisource. But, I'll send you the content of Erroneous Eagle Scouts to you over email, but I'm not sure how I'll be able to get the image to you. I guess you need it for a Wikipedia reference, and in that case, I don't think Wikisource is a good outlet to host the letter. PseudoSkull (talk) 20:14, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I often upload those types of images to phabricator:file/ as that can handle things differently, and does not stop fair use. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:39, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, I don't foresee the page itself being a copyright issue at all, because that was implicitly released as CC BY SA in the 2000s. So I'll also create it in your userspace as requested. The file linked, however, will have copyright issues most likely. PseudoSkull (talk) 20:20, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * See User:Evrik/Erroneous Eagle Scouts. I added a note that I don't even believe it is eligible for copyright in the first place, but even if it was, fallback license is CC BY SA. PseudoSkull (talk) 20:22, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Evrik (talk) 20:23, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:45, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Template:=
Can somebody check the speedy deletion request at Template:=, please? -- Jan Kameníček (talk) 11:52, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Jan.Kamenicek: ✅. This was announced in TechNews last year. Xover (talk) 13:51, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:43, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Volhynia Massacre
IM trying to note who was responsible for it and every word is blacklisted, why are so many words blacklisted... there are no new members here in very long time... WHAT GIVES? WolynMassacres (talk) 01:40, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * May I ask what page you were trying to add this to, and what information you were trying to add? (If it blacklists you while trying to respond here, try emailing me or another admin.) PseudoSkull (talk) 02:39, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:42, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Request to move the index "Report of the commission of enquirynorth borneo & sarawak & igc 1962.pdf" to "Report of the Commission of Enquiry North Borneo & Sarawak.pdf"
To reflect the name change and content of the document after adding placeholder for missing pages and splitting "two in one" pages into two pages. The name has been changed for the Wiki Commons file "Report of the Commission of Enquiry North Borneo & Sarawak.pdf" as seen in the link below:

Original index on the wikisource: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Report_of_the_commission_of_enquirynorth_borneo_%26_sarawak_%26_igc_1962.pdf

Any help is very much appreciated. Thank you. Cerevisae (talk) 09:31, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Request to move transcribed content from "Index:Report of the commission of enquirynorth borneo & sarawak & igc 1962.pdf" to "Index:Report of The Inter-Governmental Committee, Malaysia.pdf"
I have uploaded a clearer (reprinted) version of the Inter-Government Report (without squeezing "two pages in one page" problem and illegible words) on Wikicommons and created a new index file for this. The previously transcribed content of this file was located on pages 92 to 115 of the "Index:Report of the commission of enquirynorth borneo & sarawak & igc 1962.pdf". However, when I tried to link the page "Malaysia, Report of the Inter-Governmental Committee, 1962" to the index "Index:Report of The Inter-Governmental Committee, Malaysia.pdf", all previously transcribed content was not found. Would greatly appreciate your help in this matter. As long as all previously transcribed content are found in the index pages, I will adjust the page differences by copying and pasting later. Cerevisae (talk) 11:30, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Both migrations in progress... PseudoSkull (talk) 12:57, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * First item pretty much ✅. All the proofread pages are in the right places, but the not-proofread (red) pages are a confusing situation... It still seems like a lot of the pages are missing... Page:Report of the Commission of Enquiry North Borneo & Sarawak.pdf/80 is supposed to go on 84, etc. Do you mind elaborating what's going on with this? Since the pages aren't proofread, I'm wondering if it's better if the proofreaders just ignore that those pages are out of place, or if I should delete some of the non-proofread pages, if it's more trouble than it's worth? They're just an OCR layer it appears. (But they've been around since 2013 with extensive edit histories, so I'm reluctant to just delete them, you know?) PseudoSkull (talk) 13:23, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Second item ✅ as best I can. But, It looks like the content of each page bleeds over into the next page's contents which is causing some page offsetting that cannot be fixed with the page move tools alone... Is it possible you were proofreading a different version of the same document before? This is something the proofreaders can fix I think, I've moved the pages the best I can. PseudoSkull (talk) 13:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks PseudoSkull for your help! The index page "Malaysia, Report of the Inter-Governmental Committee, 1962" is done. There are extra pages this time because the previous version of the file squeezed two pages into one page, and this time I separated the two pages into their respective pages. Thus, the extra pages are expected.
 * Regarding the index "Report of the Commission of Enquiry, North Borneo and Sarawak, 1962", I can be sure of is that the pdf file definitely has 109 pages. In the original file, the initial pages goes as planned but in the second half of the pdf file, it started to squeeze two pages into one page, affecting the page numbering and results in a duplicated page. In the revised file, I separate all the pages out, thus increasing the original 92 pages to 109 pages. Although the extra non-proofread pages are the OCR layers, no need to delete anything since it corresponds to page numbers of the uploaded file.

The only problem is that Wiki Commons is unable to give a preview for the index "Report of the Commission of Enquiry, North Borneo and Sarawak, 1962". When I tried to edit the page, it says "Failed to initialize OpenSeadragon, no image found." I think this problem is because I uploaded a new version of the file over the existing one on the Wiki Commons, causing it to misbehave? Link: File:Report_of_the_Commission_of_Enquiry_North_Borneo_%26_Sarawak.pdf. Any way to solve this problem? The "Report of the Commission of Enquiry, North Borneo and Sarawak, 1962" does not have this problem because I created a new file on Wiki Commons instead of overwriting the existing one. Cerevisae (talk) 21:14, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: all files seem to have got through whatever problem existed at the time — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:37, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Request to upload c:File:Where Angels Fear to Tread.djvu locally
Hi! c:File:Where Angels Fear to Tread.djvu is not OK for Commons (not free in the UK), but it is free in the U.S. (the templates for the file page are, I think, ). Could an admin (or other person with the reupload-shared right) please reupload it here under the same name, and ping me when done so I can delete it from Commons? Best, —&#8205;Mdaniels5757 (talk &bull; contribs) 18:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ and deleted at Commons. Thanks for the heads up, very much appreciated. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:17, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:33, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

File:Daedalus; or, Science and the Future (1924, E.P. Dutton & Company).pdf
This is in the public domain in the United States, but owing to having been previously published (in 1923) in the U.K., it is not allowable on Wikimedia Commons. Could this file please be locally transferred? Thank you. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:20, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

How to close discussions (template changes)
I got tired of fixing broken closed templates, so I've done some technical and doc cleanup there. The upshot is that there's now closed/s and closed/e variants of this template. Throw the first at the top with the usual params, and the latter at the bottom, and otherwise it should work as it always has.

The upshot is that with the /s and /e versions there's no longer any need to escape |, =, and similar inside a closed section. The old single-temple version still exists and works as it always did for compatibility reasons, but the /s + /e variant is now definitely preferred.

NB! As always you still need to use section resolved to make the section eligible for archiving. closed just closes the discussion, and section resolved tells the archive bot it's eligible for archiving, so you need to use both. Xover (talk) 17:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Disallowed edit of my user page
Hi. I tried to add a link to a subpage of my Wikispecies user page containing my public PGP key, however that wasn't allowed due to "Continuing IP link spamming/vandalism". Please explain what I did wrong. Note that my Wikisource user page contains a link to Wikispecies official X account, since I'm the sole administrator of that X account. That link was in my Wikisource user page already prior to the above mentioned edit attempt (and still is), but I tried to change the layout of how it is presented. Also, the PGP subpage at Wikispecies contains a link to an external, official OpenPGP key server. Maybe that was the issue?

For reference, I'm an administrator, bureaucrat and interface admin at Wikispecies. My global account information for all of Wikimedia can be found here. Thanks beforehand. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 12:13, 9 September 2023 (UTC).
 * Without more detailed information, I'm guessing this was caught by an automatic filter to restrict external linking associated with spamming, which we get a lot of. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Have you tried since the previous occasion that I noted on your talk page? I am not seeing it here, and it was related to the issue that I mentioned, which a fellow admin has resolved. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I tried it again just a few minutes ago, and still gets the same error message: Actions taken: Disallow; Filter description: Continuing IP link spamming/vandalism. The actual code that I'm trying to enter to my user page can be found [] . –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 10:26, 11 September 2023 (UTC).
 * ^^^^ — billinghurst  sDrewth  10:58, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Jan Kameníček (talk) 12:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you all. Now everything works as expected, and without any errors. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:14, 12 September 2023 (UTC).
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

File:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14 (2022).pdf
This file was originally uploaded in two parts, File:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14- 2022 (1).pdf and File:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14- 2022 (2).pdf. The first part was started here, and I would like those pages moved under the complete index. The second part was started at old Wikisource, and those pages need to be imported to here. Then, all of the old pages and indexes need to be deleted, and after that the files on Commons. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:37, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Locally the Index/Page ns pages have been moved Index:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14- 2022 (1).pdf => Index:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14 (2022).pdf. We need to map the import regimen for mulWS to enWS, to get that done. (We could do it for mul:Special:Export xml though if there are not a lot of pages then it probably isn't worth the effort, and we can do Special:Import). The mapping is needed either way. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Request deletion and move of duplicated pages
I created a few pages without realising that the texts were already in the mainspace: The Scientific Monthly/Volume 3/November 1916/Eugenics is already posted at Eugenics and The Scientific Monthly/Volume 3/October 1916/The Development of Folk-tales and Myths is already posted at The development of folk-tales and myths. Could someone delete the duplicates and move the older pages to the newer ones? Arcorann (talk) 07:40, 21 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Arcorann: Nice catch. Texts on Wikisource should live within their containing works, so all these articles from TSM and similar should live on a subpage of the magazine. There can then be redirects or versions pages at the top-level name pointing to the subpage.In any case, for this reason I've moved the original top-level pages over your duplicate transclusions, leaving a redirect in place at the old page name. Xover (talk) 06:27, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Creating Affidavit in Support of a Criminal Complaint and Arrest Warrant: James Gordon Meek
This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. What to do? If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do by leaving a message at Wikisource:Administrators' noticeboard (you do not need to include all the content as that may set off the filter again: admins can see the attempted edit in the filter logs).

Tried to paste contents of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:James_Gordon_Meek_Affidavit.pdf - guessing since it's sexually graphic it tripped some precaution? Virginia Courtsesan (talk) 04:58, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Virginia Courtsesan: Your edit is being blocked by a global filter, and, yes, the content is the likely reason.But why would you try to copy&paste the contents of a PDF file that is already on Commons into a wikipage here? Please see Help:Adding texts for information on how to properly add texts on English Wikisource. Xover (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I added the line "&!wiki_name contains "source" " because the troll against which the filter is directed is not active here. WikiBayer (talk) 07:12, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Virginia Courtsesan: See United States v. Meek (affidavit). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:55, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Page:A Failure to Communicate? How Public Messaging Has Strained the COVID-19 Response in the United States.pdf/9
This is another filter: the three Twitter hyper-links replaced with “ ” need to be added to the filter and replaced. Thank you. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:13, 27 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @TE(æ)A,ea.: ✅ Xover (talk) 10:32, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

How to close discussions (template changes)
I got tired of fixing broken closed templates, so I've done some technical and doc cleanup there. The upshot is that there's now closed/s and closed/e variants of this template. Throw the first at the top with the usual params, and the latter at the bottom, and otherwise it should work as it always has.

The upshot is that with the /s and /e versions there's no longer any need to escape |, =, and similar inside a closed section. The old single-temple version still exists and works as it always did for compatibility reasons, but the /s + /e variant is now definitely preferred.

NB! As always you still need to use section resolved to make the section eligible for archiving. closed just closes the discussion, and section resolved tells the archive bot it's eligible for archiving, so you need to use both. Xover (talk) 17:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Disallowed edit of my user page
Hi. I tried to add a link to a subpage of my Wikispecies user page containing my public PGP key, however that wasn't allowed due to "Continuing IP link spamming/vandalism". Please explain what I did wrong. Note that my Wikisource user page contains a link to Wikispecies official X account, since I'm the sole administrator of that X account. That link was in my Wikisource user page already prior to the above mentioned edit attempt (and still is), but I tried to change the layout of how it is presented. Also, the PGP subpage at Wikispecies contains a link to an external, official OpenPGP key server. Maybe that was the issue?

For reference, I'm an administrator, bureaucrat and interface admin at Wikispecies. My global account information for all of Wikimedia can be found here. Thanks beforehand. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 12:13, 9 September 2023 (UTC).
 * Without more detailed information, I'm guessing this was caught by an automatic filter to restrict external linking associated with spamming, which we get a lot of. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:43, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Have you tried since the previous occasion that I noted on your talk page? I am not seeing it here, and it was related to the issue that I mentioned, which a fellow admin has resolved. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I tried it again just a few minutes ago, and still gets the same error message: Actions taken: Disallow; Filter description: Continuing IP link spamming/vandalism. The actual code that I'm trying to enter to my user page can be found [] . –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 10:26, 11 September 2023 (UTC).
 * ^^^^ — billinghurst  sDrewth  10:58, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Jan Kameníček (talk) 12:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you all. Now everything works as expected, and without any errors. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:14, 12 September 2023 (UTC).
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

File:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14 (2022).pdf
This file was originally uploaded in two parts, File:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14- 2022 (1).pdf and File:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14- 2022 (2).pdf. The first part was started here, and I would like those pages moved under the complete index. The second part was started at old Wikisource, and those pages need to be imported to here. Then, all of the old pages and indexes need to be deleted, and after that the files on Commons. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:37, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Locally the Index/Page ns pages have been moved Index:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14- 2022 (1).pdf => Index:Urbiztondo Ordinance No. 14 (2022).pdf. We need to map the import regimen for mulWS to enWS, to get that done. (We could do it for mul:Special:Export xml though if there are not a lot of pages then it probably isn't worth the effort, and we can do Special:Import). The mapping is needed either way. — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Request deletion and move of duplicated pages
I created a few pages without realising that the texts were already in the mainspace: The Scientific Monthly/Volume 3/November 1916/Eugenics is already posted at Eugenics and The Scientific Monthly/Volume 3/October 1916/The Development of Folk-tales and Myths is already posted at The development of folk-tales and myths. Could someone delete the duplicates and move the older pages to the newer ones? Arcorann (talk) 07:40, 21 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Arcorann: Nice catch. Texts on Wikisource should live within their containing works, so all these articles from TSM and similar should live on a subpage of the magazine. There can then be redirects or versions pages at the top-level name pointing to the subpage.In any case, for this reason I've moved the original top-level pages over your duplicate transclusions, leaving a redirect in place at the old page name. Xover (talk) 06:27, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Creating Affidavit in Support of a Criminal Complaint and Arrest Warrant: James Gordon Meek
This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. What to do? If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do by leaving a message at Wikisource:Administrators' noticeboard (you do not need to include all the content as that may set off the filter again: admins can see the attempted edit in the filter logs).

Tried to paste contents of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:James_Gordon_Meek_Affidavit.pdf - guessing since it's sexually graphic it tripped some precaution? Virginia Courtsesan (talk) 04:58, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Virginia Courtsesan: Your edit is being blocked by a global filter, and, yes, the content is the likely reason.But why would you try to copy&paste the contents of a PDF file that is already on Commons into a wikipage here? Please see Help:Adding texts for information on how to properly add texts on English Wikisource. Xover (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I added the line "&!wiki_name contains "source" " because the troll against which the filter is directed is not active here. WikiBayer (talk) 07:12, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Virginia Courtsesan: See United States v. Meek (affidavit). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:55, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Page:A Failure to Communicate? How Public Messaging Has Strained the COVID-19 Response in the United States.pdf/9
This is another filter: the three Twitter hyper-links replaced with “ ” need to be added to the filter and replaced. Thank you. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:13, 27 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @TE(æ)A,ea.: ✅ Xover (talk) 10:32, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

missing pages
WRT Index:The history of medieval Europe.djvu, two pages appear to be missing: xvi and xvii. No idea how to deal with this and doubt I have the needed permissions anyway. And while I have an Admin's attention, I have a general question regarding the drop down menu in the editing window—the one with Insert, Wiki markup, etc. There is a User option available at the end that seems to imply we could determine what is available to us. Does this work? If so, how can I populate it with my tags of choice?

Thank you. snafu22q (talk) 03:11, 14 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I can't help with the missing pages, but the User option is done through your common.js subpage. Have a look at mine (User:Beeswaxcandle/common.js). Line 9 is where I've got my special character set. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The Scan Lab should be able to help with inserting the missing pages, uploading a new version of the file and then coordinating the bulk move of pages to adjust to the new file. MarkLSteadman (talk) 06:45, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

did this end up in scan lab? — billinghurst  sDrewth  23:44, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I just made the request. I remember looking at the ScanLab page and not quite knowing what to do when this was first posted. When I saw your question, I looked again at the page, and still wasn't sure what to do. But I did it anyway. You might want to check my work. ;)
 * snafu22q (talk) 04:25, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Just removed the 'section resolved' template—I don't see any changes to the index. What am I missing? snafu22q (talk) 02:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Snafu22q: Your request here on the Administrators' noticeboard has been resolved: Beeswaxcandle answered your question about the "User" option in the edit dropdown, and MarkLSteadman directed your request for assistance with a scan to the Scan Lab (which is the best venue for such requests). Nobody at the Scan Lab has addressed your request yet, but it's there and someone will get to it eventually. Xover (talk) 07:07, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

New special page to fight spam
Hello, We are replacing most of the functionalities of MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist with a new special page called Special:BlockedExternalDomains. In this special page, admins can simply add a domain and notes on the block (usually reasoning and/or link to a discussion) and the added domain would automatically be blocked to be linked in Wikis anymore (including its subdomains). Content of this list is stored in MediaWiki:BlockedExternalDomains.json. You can see w:fa:Special:BlockedExternalDomains as an example. Check the phabricator ticket for more information.

This would make fighting spam easier and safer without needing to know regex or accidentally breaking wikis while also addressing the need to have some notes next to each domain on why it’s blocked. It would also make the list of blocked domains searchable and would make editing Wikis in general faster by optimizing matching links added against the blocked list in every edit (see T337431 for some measurements).

If you want to migrate your entries in MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist, there is a python script in P49299 that would produce contents of MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist and MediaWiki:BlockedExternalDomains.json for you automatically migrating off simple regex cases.

Note that this new feature doesn’t support regex (for complex cases) nor URL paths matching. Also it doesn’t support bypass by spam whitelist. For those, please either keep using MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist or switch to an abuse filter if possible. And adding a link to the list might take up to five minutes to be fully in effect (due to server-side caching, this is already the case with the old system) and admins and bots automatically bypass the blocked list.

Let me know if you have any questions or encounter any issues. Happy editing. Amir (talk) 09:41, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Protected edits to Beatrix Potter works
These works are linked to Wikidata items which (correctly!) list the publication date for the specific edition. However, now that PD-US can get a work's publication date from Wikidata, it's categorizing the works in Category:PD-US-possible-copyright-violations because the publication year is greater than 1927. To fix this, I would like the following edits:
 * Change the license in Appley Dapply's Nursery Rhymes to
 * Change the license in The Tale of Timmy Tiptoes to and the year in the header to 1939
 * Change the license in The Tale of The Flopsy Bunnies to
 * Change the license in The Tailor of Gloucester to and the year in the header to 1931

Thanks! —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 03:25, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅, and thank you! —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:48, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 20:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Transwiki request
Can someone transwiki File:The Great Detective Stories, a Chronological Anthology (1927).djvu to here? It will have to be deleted on Commons, since it has English authors who died post-1953, but it's over 100 MB and I don't know how to get upload it here. Prosfilaes (talk) 22:15, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Prosfilaes: ✅ Xover (talk) 16:00, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:52, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Eyagi
Would anyone examine what to do with mul:Collection of Imperial Japanese Military Comfort Station Regulation? For Translation:Licensed Prostitutes Regulation Order and Translation:Licensed Brothel and Prostitute Regulation Order, am I right to assume that mul:User_talk:Eyagi would license the user's translations under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and the GFDL?--Jusjih (talk) 01:10, 17 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Jusjih: It sounds more like they are aiming for CC-zero (the public domain dedication).But also note that user translations on enWS are required to be scan-backed and for the original to be already proofread on the appropriate Wikisource (in this case presumably jpWS). Xover (talk) 15:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Requesting autopatrolled
Hello! Recently I have been tagging hundreds of 'without text' pages and noticed it was flooding unpatrolled Recent changes, so I tought of requesting autopatrolled as I believe I meet the criteria. I've worked on many pages across almost all steps of Wikisource, from improving transclusions of pages to doing their initial transcriptions, formatting complex title pages, extracting, restoring and inserting images, etc. YuriNikolai (talk) 05:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @YuriNikolai: Autopatrolled is applied by an admin when they get tired of seeing your edits on recent changes. We don't assign it on request. Xover (talk) 15:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Xover: No problem, but this leaves me a bit confused. Autopatrolled currently says "If you wish to request Autopatrolled rights for yourself or another user, please place a request at Wikisource's administrators' noticeboard.", with a link to this page and another to the discussion that led to the Autopatrolled group being created. And on that discussion, the proposals/proposal supports either mention people being able to request or don't mention the procedure at all. Is there another policy page/consensus from a different discussion for the fact that you can't request it here or is this just undefined right now? YuriNikolai (talk) 00:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Edit, forgot to add a sentence: The Autopatrolled info page should probably be changed after a discussion is opened if so, as it currently states otherwise YuriNikolai (talk) 00:55, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @YuriNikolai: Yeah, that's a bit confusing. It says you can request it here, but over the years the practice has become that we don't grant it on request. Admins patrolling recent changes will notice accounts they feel it is more efficient having autopatrolled and assign the right. Posting a request here might make an admin take an extra look, but in general not. Xover (talk) 07:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, the wording on that page was quite obsolete and confusing, I have changed it to comply with current practice. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 00:06, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

WS:CSD F8 - Updated/deleted source file
@Jan.Kamenicek has brought to my attention that there is no criterion for speedy deletion called "F8 - Updated/deleted source file" in our deletion policy. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 04:17, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Would someone with the requisite technical know-how please remove this option from the page deletion form?
 * 2) I have speedied countless outdated textinfo pages over the years based on this rationale  - should I go through and undelete them all? Is that even a feasible task?
 * While I think that we should not delete such talk pages for historical reasons (the overwritten version which the text info refers to is still preserved in history, and so this text-info should not be deleted either, otherwise we would lose the information about the source of that version), I do not think it is necessary to spend time with searching for those already deleted and with their undeleting. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 14:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Beleg Tâl: ✅. It was added by in 2011 and has been in use since without anyone noticing. We've never had any F speedy criteria (we call our file-related criteria A for some reason), so this was likely an enWP import.That being said, there may be a need for an equivalent criteria because we frequently (and uncontroversially) delete various pages specifically because they are no longer accurate / relevant after a source file update. textinfo is an edge case (removing it will often leave a completely empty talk page behind; I could argue that either way), but things like overshooting Page: pages after changing the DjVu is common. A lot of these can be covered by M1, but it's usually better to have a more specific criteria. Xover (talk) 20:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

"The Jesuit Relations and Allied Documents" submission blocked
Hi, I have an abridged and translated-to-modern-english version of the massive "The Jesuit Relations and Allied Documents" that I am trying to create a page for. I tried submitting as one page and it was too big, so I broke it into 4 parts. Upon submitting the first part, I received the following message:

"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. What to do? If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do by leaving a message at Wikisource:Administrators' noticeboard ... A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Crosswiki abuse and Anti-harassment."

I do not understand what I did wrong, if anything. Can anyone help me? Thank you Jswap (talk) 16:29, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I also got the same false positive a while back when trying to submit a transcription document; I can't remember which one though. This is a global filter, meaning that Wikisource administrators (like myself) can't necessarily fix it. If I had to guess, the filter is probably watching out for very large edits with some specific keywords in them related to a vandal. Pinging who I know is an active steward. Tegel, maybe you know what the issue is here? Can it be disabled for enws? We tend to deal with very large volumes of text, so maybe an exception can be made? PseudoSkull (talk) 21:25, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The filter was last edited by User:WikiBayer. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 21:49, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Looking at the text that you were prevented to add by the filter, it is a new translation from 2016, and contains also some introduction writen in 2016. Are you sure that the translation and the introduction are not copyrighted? What is the source of the whole text? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 21:56, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * (Comment: regardless of the copyright status or the respect to Wikisource conventions of the text trying to be submitted, the filter problem is definitely a false positive, and I am still interested in getting that fixed either way) PseudoSkull (talk) 22:15, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The edit of yours, which was also prevented by the filter, was probably this one. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @PseudoSkullI can't Answer Special:AbuseLog/164432 WikiBayer (talk) 06:07, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reply. The added 2016 content was added by me.  I am relinquishing any copyright. Jswap (talk) 19:32, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am not able to see the edit history of the Meta abuse filter because I don't have the rights to view it, but is it now at least keeping administrators of wikis from getting triggered by it at least, if not also autopatrolled? PseudoSkull (talk) 06:12, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. The filter no longer captures any edits from active Users. The above-mentioned error was also triggered by an incorrectly set (. WikiBayer (talk) 06:18, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I am sorry for previous edit being caught too, quite similarly it was because of unfortunate combination of "death" with some words. Filter adjusted and below I am copying the original answer of User:WikiBayer:
 * @Jan.Kamenicek This error is already fixed since days. After this problem, I completely rewrote the filter and structured it differently in order to exclude such errors in the future. The problem has nothing to do with the false positive.
 * @PseudoSkullTo JSwap: The rule that prevented the post is there to prevent death threats from IPs and new users. In the text there are terms like "will die" and other terms that I don't mention for obvious reasons, these caused the filter to hit.
 * So far, this rule has not had any false positives, except for this one, but I have now defused the rule somewhat.
 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/history/300/diff/prev/5479
 * Copied by --Jan Kameníček (talk) 09:49, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I just retried submitting and it went through successfully. Thank you all for your help. Jswap (talk) 19:47, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Move request
As per c:Special:Diff/758458708/prev, move Index:American Medical Biographies - Kellly, Burrage.djvu to Index:American Medical Biographies - Kelly, Burrage.djvu. This should include its subpages like Index:American Medical Biographies - Kellly, Burrage.djvu/styles.css as well as all the stuff in     ns. The bigger problem might be changing all the  tags under subpages of American Medical Biographies. Thanks —Uzume (talk) 21:12, 3 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Xover (talk) 08:36, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Xover (talk) 11:13, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Xover: You seem to have a PAWS script for such renames. Is that a Pywikibot script? Thanks, —Uzume (talk) 16:32, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Uzume: It's User:Inductiveload/Scripts/Page shifter.py. Xover (talk) 17:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Xover: Thanks, I didn't realize there was a  package even. —Uzume (talk) 17:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * This section was archived on a request by: — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:53, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Edit request for Template:Header2

 * This section was archived on a request by: —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 03:52, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Please change

to

so I can merge deprecated template and deprecated. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 04:17, 8 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @CalendulaAsteraceae: ✅ Xover (talk) 08:28, 8 November 2023 (UTC)