User talk:Wenku-organism

— billinghurst  sDrewth  13:22, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Moving author pages
Please don't move author pages to contentious names. It has been explained that a page title with rank is not within our nomenclature framework. We don't do it for Kings, Queens, nobles, or religious figures, and they regularly have role names. If you wish to have a more in depth conversation, then please start a discussion at WS:S. — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:22, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * All of these are being moved back to the previous names without the terms Emperor. It may not be correct for your nomenclature, however, it aligns through Wikidata, so we can all be wrong together. It is just going to be confusing otherwise. — billinghurst  sDrewth  00:57, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

re: Category:Chinese emperors

 * Before my first move, the naming pattern was inconsistent. Some included "Emperor", some not but using wrong names.
 * After discussion, my last move was to move them to real and full personal names (surname + given name, as in their original surname-first order) without titles.

Now, why did you move them back to some wrong names? They are grammatically wrong, non-human names, or actually including title?

Han dynasty (surname Liu)
 * Author:Gaozu (temple "name", actually title) of Han
 * Author:Wen (adjective) of Han (Emperor Wen was his title), wrong in grammar
 * Author:Wu (adjective) of Han (Emperor Wu was his title), wrong in grammar

Ming dynasty (surname Zhu)
 * Author:Chongzhen (era name, not human name)
 * Author:Zhu Yuanzhang (CORRECT personal name)

Qin dynasty (surname Ying)
 * Author:Qin Shi Huang (= "Qin First Emperor", a title)

Qing dynasty (surname Aisin Gioro)
 * Author:Guangxu (era name, not human name)
 * Author:Jiaqing (era name, not human name)
 * Author:Kangxi (era name, not human name)
 * Author:Shunzhi (era name, not human name)
 * Author:Tongzhi (era name, not human name)
 * Author:Wenzong (temple "name", actually title) of Qing

Tang dynasty (surname Li)
 * Author:Li Yuan (CORRECT personal name)
 * Author:Wuzong (temple "name", actually title) of Tang
 * Author:Xuanzong (temple "name", actually title) of Tang

Wei dynasty (surname Cao)
 * Author:Cao Rui (CORRECT personal name)

Yuan dynasty (surname Borjigin)
 * Author:Ghengis Khan (Khan is a title)
 * Author:Kublai Khan (Khan is a title)

Didn't/Don't you agree to move them to real personal full names without titles?

Wenku-organism (talk) 03:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Author:Aisin Gioro Yizhu
Is this Emperor the author of any works? Ratifying and presiding are not the same as being the Author. English Wikisource hosts Author pages for Authors only, and if this Emperor did not write anything himself, we would delete this page. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:43, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Likewise for Author:Ying Zheng. Did he write any works? --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I have no idea about what to do with works like edicts or treaties in their names. I did not list them. I just tried to fix wrong names. Thanks. Wenku-organism (talk) 03:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Since they do not appear to be Authors of any works, I have nominated these Author pages for deletion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:36, 15 January 2020 (UTC)