User talk:Quillaja

In a Grove
Hi Quillaja. There may be a problem with your new contribution. You marked the page as a pre1923 work, but the translation has its own copyright. The work was included in the author's Rashomon, I strongly suspect that this is not in the public domain. I have listed it at Possible copyright violations, Cygnis insignis (talk) 12:29, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

As with Botchan, I recommend you respond and resolve this matter before proceeding. Cygnis insignis (talk) 12:42, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * botchan is from project gutenberg. i suspect there's no problem with that. is there some "official" way to list sources?


 * Please give the link to gutenberg? Cygnis insignis (talk) 12:53, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * sure, but where? on the work's main page? in the "description" part of the header template? Quillaja (talk) 12:55, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * On the talk or here, I'll help you sort it out. What about the first? it may have been a free sample rather than Help:Public domain. If either are available then they are very welcome contributions. Cygnis insignis (talk) 12:58, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * botchan:


 * Thanks. Cygnis insignis (talk) 13:06, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is where we are up to


 * 1) Botchan derived from Gutenberg see Talk:Botchan
 * 2) In a Grove currently being reviewed
 * 3) Rashōmon translation of gutenberg text (Japanese)


 * In a Grove: http://www.scribd.com/doc/3682435/In-a-Grove-by-Ryunosuke-Akutagawa They have it marked as "attribution non-commercial". of course, who knows where they got their text.Quillaja (talk) 13:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Rashomon: http://sites.google.com/site/renemalenfant/rashomon i think. i wanted to contact the guy, but there's no contact information on his page. he says his original source is gutenberg. common sense says that since he just has his translation laying around on some random site on the internet, then he probably doesn't care about copyright. but if that doesn't cut it, then do what you have to. Quillaja (talk) 13:25, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * On a related note, what about translations i do myself? I am presently working on a translation of "The Nose", and planned to put it up here when i finished. certainly, i'm no pro, but a translation is a translation. and if the given translations for Rashomon and In a Grove are no good, I suppose I could do a translation of them too, sometime.


 * It could be suggested that the translation of 3. Rashomon is beyond our scope, I'd agree based on the quick look I had at its publishing history, and is also likely to be disputed if Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 is given. However, Wikisource has featured texts that have been translated on-site, I replaced the page to start you off. Feel free to revert or change that and seek another opinion, it is merely suggestive … like my dodgy attempt at a 25 word synopsis. Providing a translation for 2 and 3 would be creative solution, perhaps heeding the note given on page 2 of 1 ;-) Cheers for 1. I don't see a problem, but I will get a second opinion on all this. Thanks for your understanding. Cygnis insignis (talk) 19:57, 2 October 2009 (UTC)