User talk:ProduceOrPerish

--EncycloPetey (talk) 01:14, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. ProduceOrPerish (talk) 04:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Line breaks
Thanks very much for your contributions. I would just like to ask you to remove all the line breaks (i.e. join the lines of a paragraph) before tagging it as proofread, such as e. g. here. Thanks very much again and happy editing! --Jan Kameníček (talk) 18:50, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * BTW, Help:Beginner's guide to typography might be also useful :-) --Jan Kameníček (talk) 18:53, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I found the line breaks to be useful for me to compare with the source text. I noticed that they were not rendered in the final output, so I decided to keep them. Is there a reason to remove them? ProduceOrPerish (talk) 19:05, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Sometimes the line breaks are problematic, especially in cases
 * when a word is divided at the end of the line with a hyphen, which we do not do, we always join the words together; or
 * when a part of a text from the end of a line and the beginning of the following line is linked (typically when somebody's name is divided with the first name at the end of the line and the surname at the beginning of the next line). It is not possible to place a link on such part of text without joining the lines.
 * I do not know whether there are some more reasons, but general rule is that we join the lines. To make it easier, you can also use a tool we have, see Tools and scripts. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 19:17, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * For the first case, I was joining the word on the line that it started on, placing the line break afterwards.
 * I have not run into the second case, but I would treat it similar to the first case.
 * Preserving as much of the linebreaks in the source, given those caveats, makes it much easier to proofread. Is it okay to keep them as I've been doing? I don't see an issue with doing so, but it would make it harder if I couldn't. ProduceOrPerish (talk) 19:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I did find one issue. When including a footer, the last line is formatted differently in the output. In this case I'm also combining all the lines. ProduceOrPerish (talk) 20:05, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, if you leave them, you leave them, but it is not a preferred way and if somebody undertakes to validate your work, they will have to remove them anyway. After some searching I found also discussions where people say line breaks may "cause problems in mediawiki", such as here. If you wish, you can also start a discussion about it and challenge it, but previous discussions I saw always ended in favour of line breaks removal. You can also join the lines as the last step after you finish with proofreading the page. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 20:16, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll remove them as the last step. Thanks. ProduceOrPerish (talk) 20:19, 18 December 2023 (UTC)