User talk:Pinguinpublications

--Jan Kameníček (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Robert Donald Locke
Hello I hace created this two pages 12 hours ago https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Robert_Donald_Locke https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Next_Door,_Next_World I want to know are they correct or if not can anybody check them? Usually how long it takes to be check bt wikisource?
 * Hello. Looking at Next Door, Next World, I am afraid that the page is not in our scope. We do not create pages about books here, we create pages containing the text of the original books which are in public domain in the United States. So if the book is in the public domain in the US, you can upload its scans to Commons and transcribe the text here. I am going to delete the page for now, if needed, it can be recreated later.
 * As for the author page of Robert Donald Locke: We keep author pages of writers whose texts are already in the public domain in the United States and so can be potentially hosted in WS, which does not seem to be the case of this author, I am sorry. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 09:28, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * To see what is in our scope have a look at WS:What Wikisource includes. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello again. You have recreated the page Author:Robert Donald Locke which I have deleted. Do you have any information about some of the books of the author being in the public domain? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 11:17, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?13414
 * I have just had a look at the linked page but I did not find there anything about the licence of the works. If the author wrote anything which can be added to Wikisource, we can keep the page, but I am afraid the linked page includes only a list of copyrighted works. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 11:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I have again deleted that page, there is no evidence of that author having work in the public domain. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:59, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You have not only recreated the page after it was deleted by billinghurst from IP address, but after it was deleted again and locked you recreated it under the name Robert Locke, using a different account. I have deleted the page again and blocked the new account. Please stop adding the content which is beyond the scope of this project unless you are able to prove that it is in our scope. Thanks for understanding. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 16:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/31862 check this link all his works have public domain status in usa in gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/29194 http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32531 http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26205


 * When you have content to come in, then we can talk about it. There is no particular purpose in creating pages when we don't have works onsite to list, or have links to the author or the works. Author pages are typically to support works of the authors in the main namespace, or mentions of either the author or their works in the main namespace. That you repeatedly just re-create something which administrators have deleted makes no sense to me. — billinghurst  sDrewth  04:02, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

OK. You are right and that was a wrong job from me. Everybody can do mistake and that was a wrong mistake from me. there is no insist on this page anymore. Just I'm apologizing from you. And I have a question: in this time it is specified to you that he does'nt have any public domain work or there is some other reason like: "we don't have works onsite to list, or have links to the author or the works"? because I thaught that Gutenberg always insert public domain works on it's site. this is just a question and again I'm telling you there is no insist from me to creating this page again.
 * General rule is that in the United States works get into the public domain 95 years after their publication. However, some works published before 1963 may got into the public domain earlier, if their copyright was not renewed, which is probably the case of some works of Robert D. Locke. Unfortunately, although Gutenberg says that some of his works are in Public Domain, it is very difficult to find their scans so that we could transcribe them in Wikisource. We do not accept copydumps from Gutenberg as there is little value in them: they are already in Gutenberg, so why should they be here too? But if you have any of his books available and are willing to scan it, we can help you to upload the scans and to proofread them. Once there is a good chance that Wikisource will host a work of Robert D. Locke, we can also found him an author page. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 18:39, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes I have one of his book available and transcribed. and this version is absulutely different from gutenberg version. how can I upload it for you to check?
 * What is the title, publisher and year of publishing? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:08, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

title: Next Door, Next World publication date: 1961 Produced by Greg Weeks, Dave Lovelace, Stephen Blundell and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at http://www.pgdp.net


 * Are you sure that the "Online Distributted Proofreading Team" published it in 1961? I am afraid that you have got some modern edition of the work, while we prefer proofreading original editions. I am quite hesitant about it, we would probably need to know much more details about it, such as the year of publishing this particular edition, if it contains any added modern texts (such as a foreword etc.), if the publisher or editor claimed any rights to it or if there were any other conditions under which it was published, and so on. After we have all this information, I can try to ask the rest of the Wikisource community if such a work would be acceptable. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 23:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

No, they where the transcribers I think. I'm searching for the original scan book and then I would inform you


 * BTW, I have understood that you are a volunteer proofreading books for the Online Distributed Proofreading Team. Would you consider to proofread a book directly for Wikisource? There are many scans of public domain books in archive.org, hathitrust.org or elsewhere, I would gladly assist you with learning how to do it. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 23:38, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

It is an honor to me. Please tell me how to start

Other user account
You originally created the account user:Pinguinpublictions which you have now abandoned for this account. I have blocked that other account, and moved the talk page information from there to here—it follows. — billinghurst  sDrewth  11:57, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Author creation
Hi. English Wikisource has a philosophy of only creating authors where we can host their works, which would mean that the works are in the public domain, so out of copyright, or released with a suitable licence for public domain. Some of the author pages that you have created do not meet that criteria and will be deleted. Also please check Help:Author pages for the creation process. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:31, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

author:Katherine Keene Galt
Would you please tell me the source for the years of life for this author. I don't see them in any obvious space, and nothing obvious in genealogical records. It seems more likely that this is a pseudonym author. Thanks. — billinghurst  sDrewth  22:47, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Please can you address this question. I am needing what to do with this work, and without your source information for the dates of life, I cannot confirm the information. Thanks. — billinghurst  sDrewth  13:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Proofreading
Reacting to your question on how to start proofreading:

To learn proofreading, I personally suggest to start with validating works. Once a page of a book is marked as proofread, another editor can check the work, correct mistakes and typos if there are any, and then mark the page as validated, which means that at least two editors checked it that it is OK. If you look e. g. at Index:R U R Rossum s Universal Robots.pdf, you can see that some of the pages are green (these have already been validated) and some are yellow (these have been proofread but not validated yet). If you click any of them, you will see the scanned page on the right and the proofread text on the left. If there are some mistakes, you can click Edit and correct them. In the editing mode, you will also see five coloured buttons at the bottom: grey, red, purple, yellow and green. After you are sure that there are no mistakes, you click the green button (validated) and save the page.

In this way you will learn some basics of the proofreading extension. In the Category:Index Proofread there are thousands of works waiting for validation :-)

After you learn the basics, you can try the proofreading itself. You can either upload brand new scans of the work (e. g. from archive.org or hathitrust.org) or you can choose some from the 12 thousands of indexes in Category:Index Not-Proofread. An example is Index:A Dreamers Tales and Other Stories.djvu. The proofreading is done in a similar way as validating: when you open a page which is not proofread, e. g. Page:A Dreamers Tales and Other Stories.djvu/22, you will see the scan on the right, and raw OCR text on the left. If there is no OCR text or if it is too bad, you can click the OCR button to recieve new OCR text. After proofreading and correcting it, you save it. We usually try not only correct various typos, but also keep the original formatting of the text, if technically possible. If you have some formatting problems, do not bother about it, I can check it and correct it. Once all the book is proofread, it can be transcluded into the main namespace, which I would help you with then. You do not have to proofread this particular book, if you know of any scans of any other Public Domain work, I can upload them for you and found the index page too.

For details you can have a look at Help:Proofread.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for your attention. I have just one question: How much is the income?

Hell. I'm waiting for your answer
 * I’m sorry, I did not notice the question. However, the impolite reaction has quite disappointed me…
 * There is no income, all WS contributors (myself included) are volunteers. They do it only because they want to and because they like it. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 16:32, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your attention again. You know I'm not English and my speeking and writing is beginner. And also because of this my question was got as an impolite question. I will do this soon and I would be glad.
 * OK, no problem :-) I am looking forward to your contributions. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 21:34, 22 April 2021 (UTC)