User talk:Jonas1015119

Marathon speech against ObamaCare
Hello. Although you have mentioned sources where the text of Marathon speech against ObamaCare can be verified, you have removed some parts of the text twice. Our texts should be faithful transcriptions of original texts and such removals are not acceptable. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 14:34, 26 December 2021 (UTC)


 * I noticed, my last edit is correct again. The version you reverted to contains a few sentences more at the end that dont belong there, the original uploader of the source copied from the congressional record PDF and didnt stop at the right point. It also contains various formatting issues from the PDF, just search for "VerDate" in the document. My last edit removed all of those and contains the full text, while being much cleaner. So I'm gonna revert to that one. My initial edit was based on the WaPo transcript and Part 1 of the Congress Records, but the speech was so long that they added the rest in a Part 2 that I missed. Sorry for that, but my last edit fixed that already. Jonas1015119 (talk) 17:13, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You keep saving a text with some parts removed. For example sentences "All across this country Americans are suffering because of ObamaCare. ObamaCare isn’t working.", which are present in the previous version of our text as well as in the original text recorded in the Congretional Records, are missing in the text after your edits. It is just an example, the same applies to more parts of the speech. So, I am going to revert it again, and if you think that it needs some editing, I suggest that you do it directly at Index:Congressional Record-Senate, September 24, 2013.pdf, beginning page 6701. This will enable you to be faithful to the original text both with the content and with its formatting, as you can check the original Congretional Records directly. After the transcription in the page namespace is finished we can transclude it to the main namespace instead of the current text. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 19:59, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I just checked, the part you mentioned seems to be missing in the WaPo transcript of the speech as well. Dont really know why, its not like a changed anything. Jonas1015119 (talk) 20:25, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * That is quite possible, so we should probably stick to the Congressional Records as the best source. You are absolutely right that the text needs improvement, so it would be really helpful if you transcribed it in the page namespace (which has recently been preferred to direct copy-pasting in Wikisource anyway). I will gladly help with anything needed. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 20:47, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * did a test run with one page based on the example, hows this? https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Congressional_Record-Senate,_September_24,_2013.pdf/3 Jonas1015119 (talk) 21:30, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks very good. Only the names should be written in small caps, which can be corrected easily. You can mark the page as proofread, tomorrow I will have a look at it in more detail and I will validate it. Thanks! --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:01, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * BTW: if you need any help or advice with editing in the page namespace, feel free to ask me any time and I will be happy to help! --Jan Kameníček (talk) 20:07, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * For an example see Address by His Excellency Vaclav Havel, President of the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic, which is transcluded from Index:GPO-CRECB-1990-pt2-4 (1).pdf --Jan Kameníček (talk) 20:22, 26 December 2021 (UTC)