User talk:Duckmather

SnowyCinema (talk) 04:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Taming of the Shrew
The Yale Shakespeare series requires some seriously advanced formatting, even many of our experienced editors here find such a volume challenging. It is also part of a series with an established formatting, so the formatting must match the other volumes in the series. It may not be a good option for a new Wikisource editor. I recommend trying works from the Monthly Challenge first. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:40, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Royal Book of Oz
Thanks for your help on this transcription project! I really appreciate all of the help that you've been providing with the bot and your own manual checking. It felt so daunting to do all on my own that I had given up a bit, but I've got some renewed energy to keep working on it since you're helping! Thanks, and do let me know if there is anything I can help with.

Best, SDudley (talk) 13:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi! Could you please run your SodiumBot again to populate more of The Royal Book of Oz? It really helps me in filling it out. Thanks! @Duckmather SDudley (talk) 02:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I just did it again for chapter 16, chapter 17, and chapter 18; have fun! Duckmather (talk) 17:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! This is extremely helpful. SDudley (talk) 17:28, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Match and Split
The text you are loading into the Page namespace is quite seriously different from the text of the scan. Look for example at all of the linked Biblical passages in Page:04.BCOT.KD.PoeticalBooks.vol.4.Writings.djvu/34. Match and split should only be done when the texts closely match, not when the two texts are radically different from each other. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

I also see pages like Page:04.BCOT.KD.PoeticalBooks.vol.4.Writings.djvu/579 that are missing chunks of sentences, and none of the in-text Hebrew has the vowel markings from the original. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Group Messaging Encryption
Why is this the title for the article? That's not the title of the article. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:34, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * That was the title of the page onwiki (which I had assumed was a short form of the title of the article). If you want, I can move the page to the actual title and ask to get rid of the resulting redirect. Duckmather (talk) 00:46, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Which wiki? I am still confused. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * English Wikisource, duh. By the way, I just boldly moved the page to its correct title, Efficient and Secure Group Messaging Encryption. Duckmather (talk) 20:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

USA PATRIOT Act
I saw that you were doing a match-and-split to a separate index. That index is for the bill, not the law as enacted. For that, we already have an index here (starting on p. 272). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Also, please put the license template and categories at the bottom, instead of at the top of the page. It will help other editors if content is placed consistently in works, and placed in the locations where they are displayed. The license is always displayed at the bottom,. with the categories below it. So it is best practice to place the templates and categorization at the bottom as well. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for noticing! Now that I think of it, I'm actually thinking of making the base title into a versions page that lists the bill version vs. the enacted version (and transcluding + proofreading from the enacted index as is for the enacted version, but matching-and-splitting for the bill version). Duckmather (talk) 03:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Problematic
I see you marked this page as problematic but you did not elaborate. What is the problem that requires unusual action? --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:11, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * There's a table in the text. I just haven't gotten around to adding it yet. Duckmather (talk) 04:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * A table doesn't make the page problematic. Problematic pages are missing the scan page, have a tear or damage resulting in lost text, or need an image file process.  If the issue is simply that table formatting hasn't been applied, then the page is just "not proofread". --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @EncycloPetey Are you sure Wikisource's current documentation agrees with this? In the problem templates section of Help:Beginner's guide to proofreading, it seems to indicate marking pages problematic when they are missing "something". I believe this practice is at least typical in the MC, and I find it more helpful than having the pages marked not proofread. Maybe that is just me. Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 21:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It appears not to be current. That advice was added in 2012 by AdamBMorgan, who last edited here in 2015.  The advice appears to be outdated with regard to tables (which are formatting), but is correct for the other templates (which apply to content). --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Em and pline
Hi @Duckmather,

I am not sure why you changed " s to ":s in Index:Slavery, a poem.pdf, as the left indent provided by each should be identical, but the ":"'s do not work properly with  (they do not align right properly). Was there some benefit to ":s that I was missing, and was the right alignment issue somehow not visible on the device you were using? At any rate, I have switched back to " s.

Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 20:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Color me mystified. I think the reason I was trying to do it was because I wanted all indentation to use the ":" symbol for consistency, because I thought the two were equivalent; I didn't know that they weren't. (A quick look at the web developer tools in Firefox suggests that when I add a ":" symbol, the Poem extension wraps it in a  tag.) In any case, the em tag is fine for now.
 * Maybe the Poem extension has something wrong with it instead. I've also thought about creating a variant of pline that uses a div tag (since Help:Poetry says that putting a span tag inside a poem will cause a lint error) but I'm not sure how useful that would actually be.
 * Duckmather (talk) Duckmather (talk) 21:53, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Duckmather I don't think I can be of much help identifying the root cause of the issue, although it may not effect both poem and ppoem (I haven't tested both). At any rate, I probably wouldn't go creating a new template just to fix this "issue", as the workaround is simple enough, and if pline was causing lint errors, ShakespeareFan or Beardo would probably be all over it. Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 00:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)