Talk:The Grand Panjandrum

Found the cite on Gutenberg here. Andrevan (talk) 23:32, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Andrevan cites the Randolph Caldecott picture book published in 1885. Other C19th editors use Grand Panjandrum. E. Cobham Brewer uses both :-). The earliest version I can find is in an 1860 book by John Forster called OLIVER CROMWELL, DANIEL DE FOE, SIR RICHARD STEELE, CHARLES CHURCHILL, SAMUEL FOOTE where he uses Grand Panjandrum throughout. I have accordingly amended the text quoted here. I believe Grand Panjandrum is the more commonly used modern expression, although the WWII device was definitely called the Great Panjandrum. --Dominic Sayers (talk) 13:53, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I've found an 1820 version here: http://www.archive.org/details/harrylucyconclud02edgerich which also quotes it as Grand Panjandrum. In the text of the novel itself the author uses both phrases (Great and Grand). --Dominic Sayers (talk) 16:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * This is a bit messy and really ought to have the scans to back up the text. Upload the book to Commons and use the relevant page to support this text.  I can show you how if you aren't familiar.  Best if you can log on to IRC: #wikisource.
 * Also, for future reference, you moved this by a copy-paste move, that's not generally the right thing to do. Although the text is PD so it's not a copyright problem like it is on en.wp, it's still much better to use the 'move' tab.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 16:12, 28 October 2011 (UTC)