Talk:Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900/Loder, George

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George Patrick Henry Loder 1816-1868]

George was born in Bath and baptised at St Mary's Chapel, Walcot, Bath in Somerset on 14 Nov 1816 as George Patrick Henry, male, to George Loder a Musician and mother Mary. Their abode was Kingsmead Terrace. File Number 15693 Register Number 1259. As he was born in 1816 his mother was not Fanny Philpot as stated by other sources but Mary Cook, his father's first wife who died in 1821 in Bath in 1816. He was described as being of short stature, with a magnificent beard.

He died in Adelaide, Australia on 15 July 1868 aged 52 of phthisis alcoholism, tuberculosis worsened by the consumption of alcohol. His father George Loder was a successful flautist in Bath and he was a nephew of the well-known John David Loder. Following in the family footsteps he gained recognition as a Musical Director and as an internationally famous conductor and composer. Working in England, the United States, and Australia he played many musical instruments including the piano, flute, violin and double bass.

The Times on 12 April 1832 recorded that George Loder (aged about 18) had received a medallion from the Royal Humane Society for rescuing a person from drowning.

New York Immigration records show that he arrived in America on October 8, 1838 on the Vessel Samson. “George Loder, 24yrs”. For articles describing his performances see http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Default/Skins/BEagle/Client.asp?Skin=BEagle&AppName=2&GZ=T&AW=1350223769187

Loder's music was perhaps more popular in America than in Britain. He had travelled to the USA with Madame Anna Bishop and Boscha, the harpist. Living first in Baltimore and then in New York he was prominent in the early years of the Philharmonic Society which was founded in 1842. He helped to establish the Philharmonic and Vocal Societies and wrote The New York Glee Book (1843) for the New York Vocal Institute of which he was Principal in 1844. This was reissued as “The Philadelphia and New York Glee Book” in 1864 and contained many of his original part songs. He also published The Middle Voice, Twelve Solfeggi (1860), and various individual songs and instrumental pieces both in England and America and arranged sheet music such as Oh! Boatman, Haste. http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=516

He played the double bass for five seasons, conducting and managing concerts with Catherine Hayes, and occasionally conducted the society's orchestra, notably at the first American performance of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony given on 20 May 1846 by the New York Philharmonic under George Loder. The sixth symphony of Beethoven was listed as a number five that night, but there was no confusion because the audience wasn't paying attention. Beethoven's original intent was that the scherzo and trio both be played twice before going on to the transitional section to the finale.

The Era (London) Sunday June 20, 1847 Musical Matters:

New York - Mr. G. Loder, a very clever English musician, who is settled in this city, gave a concert on the 27th of May, when he produced a new overture of his own, which was a most dashing, brilliant, and effective composition, and was decidedly successful.

On November 23, 1850, at the first concert of the Philharmonics ninth season, given in NYC, Loder conducted his own Marmion Overture and Niels Gades Symphony No 1 in C minor, works that he had introduced respectively, in 1846 and 1848. Appearing on the same program, the Philharmonic hornist Henry Schmitz. Sources: Henry Schmitz – http://www.rjmartz.com/hornplayers/schmitz/ Classical music almanac – http://cdexchang.blogspot.com.au/2010/11/november-23.html Composers Datebook: http://composersdatebook.publicradio.org/listings/datebook_20111121.shtml

George Loder Musical Director, Arranger, Composer, Writer. This site lists pieces by Loder and descriptions of the theatres in New York where they were performed. http://www.ibdb.com/person.php?id=412159

Pieces included: The Spirit of the Air [Original, Musical, Opera, Romance] Music by George Loder; George Loder Apr 7, 1851 - Apr 24, 1851 which starred his first wife.

The World's Fair [Original, Musical] Musical Director: George Loder Feb 10, 1851 - Mar 6, 1851

"The Andalusian" (or The Young Guard) which ran at Brougham's Lyceum Theatre, Broadway, New York, USA from January 15, 1851 until February 1851 Category - Musical, opera, original, Broadway Libretto and Music by George Loder, Musical Director.

The Bohea-man's Girl [Original, Musical, Burlesque, One Act] Music arranged by George Loder Mar 11, 1845 - Apr 25, 1845

The Cat's in the Larder [Original, Musical, Burlesque, Opera] Music arranged by George Loder Dec 23, 1840 - Jan 24, 1841

La Musquitoe [Original, Musical, Ballet, Burlesque, Comedy] Music has been begged, borrowed and stolen... in the most imprudent and free and easy style by George Loder May 21, 1840 - May 30, 1840.

Thirty seven other hits for him from 1846 are listed on: http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Default/Skins/BEagle/Client.asp?Skin=BEagleandAppName=2andGZ=TandAW=1250201126625

The 1850 USA census lists him and his family in 5th Ward, New York. George P. H. Loder, 25yrs, musician Harriet N. Loder, 30yrs Richard B. Loder, 11yrs George A. Loder, 8yrs Frank Loder, 4yrs Ellen Ward, 25yrs (no occupation shown, born Ireland)

No further records have been found to confirm the sons in the census except for one entry in 1880 at Oakland, Alameda in California for Frank Loder born circa 1846 in New York, father born England, mother born New York. Occupation: Bill poster.

San Francisco had its first taste of opera in 1853, when "Ernani " was given under his management.

The Era (London) Sunday June 5, 1853 Theatricals in America From our Correspondent New York, May 16 - Mr. George Loder took his benefit at the San Francisco on the 6th, and played the Gipsy Chief in Guy Mannering.

The Era (London) Sunday October 2, 1853 Theatricals in America. From our own Correspondent New York, Sept 12 - The Pacific Musical Troupe, under the management of George Loder, has been performing at the New Concert Hall, San Francisco, with great success.

After his wife died in November 1855 he then travelled from San Francisco to Australia on the Horizant, departing on 25 April 1856 (Brooklyn Daily Eagle 30 May 1856) He went with the soprano Anna Bishop and Boscha the harpist, settling in Adelaide as conductor of William Saurin Lyster's Opera Companies. The newspaper article from which this is taken mentions that he had only one living relative, Kate Fanny Thompson née Loder the pianist who married Sir Henry Thompson (see online tree.) Newspapers here place him in Melbourne Sept/Oct 1856, Tasmania Jan/Feb 1857 and Melbourne in March to June 1857. George Loder took over as musical director in October 1856 for the remainder of Bishop's tour, joined by flautist Siede (Germany 1825-1903) {1856-1903} as associate artist. Again, both came to Australia direct from working in the United States. Loder was already known in Australia as a composer; in 1851, Sara Flower and John Howson had sung his duet Peace to the Dead in Sydney http://ses.library.usyd.edu.au/bitstream/2123/7264/1/ga-skinner-2011-thesis.pdf

He briefly returned to the UK where he was once more active in London as an organist, singer, conductor, and composer. Here, on 11 June 1859, he conducted the revival of the opera Raymond and Agnes by his cousin Edward Loder. Records show that he married in London, confirmed by the 1861 census which shows him living with a new wife, Emma Jane, at 42 Mornington Road, Pancras, Marylebone. George Loder, 42yrs, Composer of Music and Emma Loder, wife, 28yrs, Singer and comedienne with Sarah Flindell, servant, 54yrs. In 1860 he composed Pets of the Parterre, The Love in a Garden, a comic operetta, author Coyne, Joseph Stirling, Mr., 1803-1868, which had been produced at the Lyceum and Adelphi theatres and was first performed on 5 Nov. 1860 at the Royal Lyceum Theatre. Source: Victorian Plays and Playwrights.

He and Emma then travelled to New Zealand, arriving in Wellington on February 26, 1863. Arrival of Miss Neville. We are happy in observing that those talented artistes, Miss Neville and Mr. George Loder, have now arrived in Wellington, and will give their celebrated drawing entertainment "The old House at Home" on Monday next, in the Odd Fellows Hall. Performed by Miss Emma Neville and Mr. George Loder.” This was reviewed in the Argus, 3 February, 1862, p. 5.

In 1863 he returned to Australia, conducting the first Australian performance of Les Huguenots in Melbourne that year.

The Courier newspaper in Brisbane (Qld) on Thursday 27 August, 1863 page 2 reports on the brilliant performance by George Loder and Miss Neville at the School of Arts on the previous evening. There was a more brilliant and numerous assemblage at the School of Arts last evening to hear Miss Neville and Mr. George Loder, than had filled the same building on any former occasion. It has often been said, that if artistes of talent visited Brisbane they would not be properly appreciated by the public, but after last evening we think that such a statement will henceforth be looked upon as erroneous. Ugly as the School of Arts is, on ordinary occasions, last evening it looked at what we imagine must be its best. In honor of the patronage of his Excellency Sir George and Lady Bowen, everybody in the lower part of the house appeared in full dress, and the scene presented was one worthy of a far larger building. The vice-regal party arrived a few minutes before eight o'clock, and upon their entrance Seal's band played the National Anthem. The programme was slightly altered. Miss Neville singing that beautiful song from the opera of Lurline, "Sweet Spirit hear my Prayer." At first she did not appear in good voice but it was only for a short time as both she and Mr. Loder surpassed "even themselves," if such a thing is possible and were unusually happy in every item of the programme. Shortly after the doors were opened, it was impossible to obtain unreserved seats, 'and many had to go away disappointed. It is seldom the people of Brisbane have a musical treat, and therefore we hope that Miss Neville and Mr. Loder will not be in a hurry to leave this part of the colonies.

They were mentioned in NZ again in November and December of 1864. In May 1866 he left the Lyster Theatre in Sydney just before the court case against Emma in June 1866 in Sydney. Lyster's Opera Company. We observe that Mr. George Loder, who was the leader, left Lyster's Opera Company, lately, in Sydney, and was succeeded by Mr. John Hill. A new basso was engaged. Wellington Independent Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle, Volume XXV, Issue 62, 19 May 1866, Page 2 The first reference of them being Mr & Mrs Loder is in an article in 1866. Mr. and Mrs. Loder. — Mr. Loder and Miss Emma Neville are in Adelaide where they intend to establish an academy of music. August 21, 1866 in NZ, Wellington Independent, Volume XVII, Issue 1835, Volume XXI, Issue 2404, 21 August 1866, Page 4 Reference of their being Mr. and Mrs. Loder was also in an article in the Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle, Vol. XXVI, Issue 17, 7 February 1867, Page 3 Thatcher. We learn from the Wellington Evening Post that Thatcher is at present in Adelaide, performing in his usual style, making "hits," and caricaturing local celebrities. He is accompanied by Mrs. G. Loder (Miss Neville that was) who sings ballads, and Mr. Pappin, who is also a vocalist, Mr. George Loder acting as pianist. The performers are drawing good houses. Articles published after his death also confirm this.

In Nov 1867 George conducted the orchestra in Adelaide for the visit by the Duke of Edinburgh. After his death in 1868 one article in NZ notes that "he had arrived in Australia some years ago".

Otago Witness, Issue 761, 30 June 1866, Page 11 Emma Loder, alias Neville, appeared in the Police Court, Sydney, on the 20th ult., to answer an information, made by William Arthur Hellyer, for having, on the 25th April, unlawfully assaulted him. The complainant said that on the day named he went, at the instance of his father, to defendant's lodging, in Jamison street; he asked to see Mrs. Loder, and on proceeding upstairs, found his father with the defendant and her husband; after a few minutes, he said to his father, " You wished for this interview, did you not? ' his father replied in the affirmative, and Mrs. Loder said, “Wait until the servant has cleared away." They had been taking luncheon. As he sat on a chair, Mrs. Loder passed him, saying as she passed, “You are a liar;" to which he (witness) responded, " You are a ---_____;" she then struck him on the face with a paper. Other words took place, in the course of which he repeated the epithet to Mrs. Loder, and told Mr. Loder that he was a "contemptible thing” to allow his (witness's) father to run after his wife's heels as he did. The defendant then struck him with her hand on his head, and with her fist, upon his face- the latter blow of such violence as to raise a lump. Mr. Hellyer and Mr. Loder then interfered, and the witness said that if she struck him again, he would floor the whole lot of them. She had no conversation with defendant until she called him a liar; he said he would make Sydney stink for all of them, and then Mr. Loder ordered him out of the room. Mr. W. Hellyer cross-examined the witness at considerable length for the defence, and for the defence gave another version of the affair. The Bench found the assault to be proved, and ordered the defendant to pay a penalty of 1s, with costs, or to be imprisoned twenty-four hours.

A google search for Madame Carandini states she performed in Adelaide in the 1860s and 1870s, which corresponds with George and Emma being in Adelaide at that time. The Apollo was on the first floor facing Bourke Street (the theatre itself was further back on the site, behind a hotel and an open courtyard). There was a balcony over the Apollo's hall section and a Saloon at right angles to the hall. Admission to these parts was two shillings while the hall cost one shilling. The first performance reflected Coppin's claim in advertisements that the Music Hall would present only 'respectable entertainment'. Local singers Madame Marie Carandini and Walter Sherwin and the Missies Royal performed excerpts from the opera Il Trovatore to the accompaniment Mr. Loder's orchestra. Catering for other tastes, Mr. R. Barlow, a popular minstrel-show singer, sang 'The Blue Tailed Fly.'

The State Library NSW website shows a PDF of the cover of "The Prince Alfred Waltz" composed by George Loder for the visit to Australia by the Prince. This confirms that he was in the town where he died seven months later and the facts in the article about Carnadini: Quintette : written and composed in honor of H.R.H. the Duke of Edinburgh, upon the occasion of the grand banquet given by the Mayor of Adelaide, 9th Nov. 1867 (by George Loder). Finnigan's wake polka [music] composed by Th. Heydecke ; arranged for the pianoforte by George Loder. Published in Adelaide in 1866, author Thomas http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/ebindshow.pl?doc=music_file/a1074;thumbs=1

http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/catalogues/index.html Held in Victorian state library:

Oh! boyhood's days [music] words by Frank Younge ; music by George Loder. Creator Loder, George, 1816-1868. Other Creators Younge, Frank. Published Melbourne : W.H. Glen and Co., [188-?]

"Plays and Players" a book by Laurence Hutton, published in New York in 1875 records the death of George Loder in Adelaide and notes "also of Mrs. Loder, his wife, who died in San Francisco in 1855." Unfortunately the records for San Francisco were mostly lost in the fires after the 1906 earthquake. Strong on Music, vol 2, Reverberations 1850-1856 (a book about the music in New York) lists "Mrs. George Loder, a singing actress". The reference is for the year 1850 and concerns his first wife.

Death in 1868 George's death was announced in the Government Gazette. The following obituary notice appeared in an Adelaide newspaper on 16th July 1868. On 11 June he conducted the revival of his cousin's opera Raymond and Agnes. In 1861 he published Pets of the Parterre a comic operetta, which had been produced at the Lyceum and Adelphi theatres. Then in 1862 wrote 'The Old House at Home', a musical entertainment which was staged at the Adelphi. The following obituary notice appeared in an Adelaide newspaper on 16th July 1868: Our readers will regret, if they are not surprised, to hear of the death of Mr. George Loder, the musician, in the prime of life. The event took place on Wednesday morning at about 11 o'clock. The immediate cause of his death was phthisis, but Mr. Loder has suffered a great many months from general debility and the prostration of his ordinary physical powers. It will be remembered that he was formerly of Lyster's Operatic Company. Few men, comparatively speaking, to be able to wield the baton with equal skill. His accomplishments as a pianist were also of a very high order. Unquestionably the secret of his success was the fact that he was a lover of music for its own sake. His taste was refined and highly cultivated, and he entered into the study of music as a science and its practice as an art - not merely intellectually, but with the entire force of his being. He detested the charlatan. He could not endure to witness the slaughter of the creations of genius so often effected by incompetent performers. He had not sympathy for the mere cold-blooded mechanical manipulator. To his cultivated ear the voice of music spoke to life and beauty, and his heart beat responsive to its utterances. We refer to him now, as he was before the death of his accomplished wife, which occurred December 5th 1867. Since that event Mr. Loder has been the shadow of his former self. He has now "joined the great majority." We here repeat the sketch of his great professional career, which we published about a month ago as follows: - "Mr. Loder was born in 1816, and is the brother of a famous lady formerly known in England as Kate Loder, the eminent pianist; but now the wife of Sir Henry Thompson. Mr. Loder was the chosen accompanist of Madame Bishop in her ballads at Julien's concerts many years ago. He also conducted her and Bochsa in New York at the entertainments entitled "Boscha's voyage Musicale". At these concerts Madame Bishop was the principal vocalist, Boscha the harpist, and there was a full band and chorus. At San Francisco Mr. Loder was conductor of the opera company with which Miss Catherine Hayes and Miss Thillon were associated. Subsequently he had been professionally engaged in the Australian colonies, where his abilities are appreciated by those best able to form an opinion upon the subject". We may add that Mr. Loder was one of the originators of the Musical Society of London and subsequently the conductor to the New York Philharmonic Society. We understand he has no relations in the colonies, and that the sister already mentioned is his only surviving relative."

Nelson Evening Mail, Volume III, Issue 203, 27 August 1868, Page 2 The Adelaide correspondent of the Hamilton Spectator, in referring to the death of Mr George Loder, writes as follows: Another well-known name has been struck by death from the citizenship of Adelaide. Mr. George Loder, the clever composer and musician, has taken his departure for the ' undiscovered bourne.' He was a man who had once almost a cosmopolitan reputation as a rare musician, having conducted some of the grandest opera companies in the world, and being associated with names of the most sterling note. His sister was Kate Loder, the eminent pianist, who afterwards married Sir Henry Thompson. Some six months ago Mrs. Loder (well known through all the colonies as Emma Neville) died suddenly, leaving a blank among public vocalists; and ever since that time Mr. Loder's name has been less and less heard of. He died on a lonely bed in the hospital, with no relation near to close his death-glazed eyes, or drop a kindly tear over his pillow. What a sad end for genius, to die poverty-stricken and half forgotten in a public hospital in this faraway land.

Southland Times, Issue 999, 7 August 1868, Page 2 The telegraph announces the death, yesterday, at Adelaide, of Mr. George Loder, the well-known composer of music, and at one time the conductor of the Lyster opera troupe here. Mr. Loder had an excellent reputation in London, and arrived in Australia some years ago in company with Mrs. Loder (Miss Emma Neville) to give musical and dramatis entertainments. In these they were less successful than, perhaps, they had a right to expect. Their last engagement was played in Adelaide, where Mrs. Loder died some time ago; and for months past Mr. Loder has lingered in gradually declining health, a victim of broken hopes and spirits."

IN MEMORIAM: GEORGE LODER. A soul attuned to harmonies, than 'whom No son of Britain ever left her strand More highly gifted; A great maestro-one - one whose art o'en there Had in Fame's temple ... Byronie fire ! Oh for a Tennysonian inspiration ! To -write 'George Loder' in such burning words As live…. South Australian Chronicle and Weekly Mail (Adelaide, SA : 1868 - 1881) Saturday 25 July 1868 p 3 Article

We regret to announce that Mr. George Loder died on Wednesday morning, after a lingering illness. This will cause sincere regret to many who admired Mr. Loder as a musician of a very high order, and respected his amiable and honorable qualities. He first came to the colony with Madame Anna Bishop, 11 years ago, and contributed much to the enjoyment of her entertainments. Very recently, it will be remembered, Madame Bishop gave a tangible and appropriate proof of her kindly recollection of her professional connection with Mr. Loder, in the form of a benefit concert at White's Rooms which was very largely attended, and at which Mr. Loder appeared, looking the wreck of his former self. His connection with Lyster's Opera Company, as conductor, on the occasion of their first visit to Adelaide is fresh in the recollection of lovers of the opera, who bear unanimous testimony to the effect that the conductor's baton was never in more efficient hands. For the last few weeks Mr. Loder has been rapidly sinking, and while many will be startled to hear of his death, his intimate friends have been fully prepared for the sad event. The remains of the late Mr. George Loder, the composer and professor of music, were borne from the deceased's late residence, North-terrace, to their place of interment, in the West-terrace Cemetery, on Thursday morning. The procession consisted of a hearse, two mourning coaches, and several vehicles, which contained Messrs. — Needham, A. G. Downer, G. H. Egremont-Gee, E. Sawtell, F. Ellard, J. A. T. Lake. A. J. Solomon, J. Shakespeare, A. Jones, W. Ware, W. C. Rigby, A. Wilson, and others. The service at the grave was conducted by the Rev. Mr. Pollitt. South Australian Advertiser, 18 July 1868, p 6 http://oa.anu.edu.au/obituary/loder-george-14275

Poem http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/41404984 GEORGE LODER. Died 15 July, 1868

Close his eyes ! fold his hands ! Lo now his spirit stands Within Heaven's portal. O weary, weary mortal !

Thy pilgrimage is past; And thou art with the Freed, and safe at Home at last. Close his eyes! those kindly eyes! Low in the dust he lies, With kings and sages; And through the coming ages His sleep shall be profound, Grandly unbroken by the raving worl! around. Leave him there ! All in vain Our wish to see again Here the Great Musician. Now, through spheres Elysian, His Music swells and rolls, Attuned to golden harps, and choired by saven souls, Godfrey Hobart.

Sources and research: D. Smith, and L. Cowan Groves Dictionary of Music and Musicians. N. Temperley, 'Loder', New Grove. The Era (20 Sept 1868) • private information (1893) N. Burton and N. Temperley, 'Loder, Kate (Fanny).' The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (L.M. Middleton) H.E. Krehbiehl: The Philharmonic Society of New York: A Memorial (New York, 1892), 53-4 G.C.D. Odell: Annals of the New York Stage, iv (New York, 1928/R); v (New York, 1931/R) W.A. Orchard: Music in Australia (Melbourne, 1952), 147 H. Shanet: Philharmonic: a History of New York's Orchestra (Garden City, NY, 1975) © The new Grove dictionary of women composers, ed. J. A. Sadie and R. Samuel (1994) Burke, Peerage L. M. Middleton, 'Loder, George (1816-1868)', Rev. David J. Golby, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004 accessed 11 Jan 2008 George Loder (1816-1868): doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/16917 Kate Fanny Loder (1825-1904): doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/60936 Oxford University Press 2007 Neighbour: 'Schoenberg, Arnold', Grove Music Online ed. L. Macy (Accessed 5 October 2001),  http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=516

Further notes on George Loder – Mr. E. J. Loder, the composer of the Night Dancers, Nourjdhad, and other popular operas, and brother of Mr. George Loder, the well-known conductor of the Lyster Opera Company, died lately at Bath. (This is wrong as he died in London and was a first cousin). Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle, Vol. XXIV, Issue 96, 10 August 1865, Page 3

Mrs. Catharine Sinclair (nee Forrest) has purchased an estate in Scotland for $50,000, the savings of her theatrical career. It is said that she is soon to be married to George Loder, the composer. Date: 1858-02-19; Paper: Albany Evening Journal Date: 1858-03-24; Paper: Daily Globe says they were married in England

Weekly Hawk Eye and Telegraph of Burlington, Iowa from 23 Feb. 1858: "It is said that George Loder, the musical composer, is to marry Mrs. Catherine Sinclair, the divorced wife of Edwin Forrest, the tragedian."

Catherine Norton Sinclair Forrest (born 1817) died in 1891. Confirming she did not marry George Loder. Her first husband was American actor Edwin Forrest (1806-1872) whom she divorced c.1850 after he had an affair with actress Josephine Cliften. (Source - Responses to Rootschat posting) D. Smith's research [A reminiscence about the Philharmonic of NY mentioned George Loder (in the New York Times) whose father was a famous musician in London, whose "music is still played. "Bath and its Musical Diaspora 1788-1868", by Andrew Clarke, which follows the careers of the following musicians: Loder, John David, 1788-1846; Viner, William Litton, 1790-1867; and Loder, George Patrick Henry, 1816-1868.  Our reference is PP/1887 Bath Record Office, Guildhall, High Street, Bath, BA1 5AW]