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 for a letter. Stanley retains all his old objections, and will not listen to the appointment of commissioners with legislative powers. I gave Lefevre a copy of the Church Society paper with the names filled in. At first, be was highly amused with the idea of having done the Bishop, but after a short time be said it was a very interesting and important paper.

"March 17th.—Called on Lefevre in consequence of our Pot having received any letter. He said that I should have it in an hour if I would call for it, and 'then we would read it together.' In an hour I called again and got the letter. Having read it, I said that it would be considered by some of our committee as a decisive answer in the negative, for as they considered that power to govern was indispensable, which Mr. Stanley distinctly refuses to grant, the thing would, in the estimation of many, be at an end. He replied he hoped not, for the plan was a very ingenious one, and he should like much to see it fried; there was truly no hope of Mr. Stanley's acquiescence being obtained for the appointment of commissioners with governing powers, but he thought there was room for another communication which might succeed. I remarked that nothing was said in the letter about the administration of the fund arising from the sales of land; in whom would that power reside? He replied, in any body we named. Mr. Stanley would not object to the Emigration Fund being expended by some person or persons appointed for the purpose. On this I reminded him that the emigration fund was public money; that if he appointed anyone to see to the disposition of this fund, he would be a commissioner, if he appointed more than one, they would be a Board of Commissioners—in that sense had he no objection to commissioners being appointed? He replied, 'certainly not.' I then adverted to the funds required for carrying the plan into effect—who was to raise money? He said, 'we might borrow it.' To this, I said that 'the Colonial Office could not borrow it,