Page:The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787 Volume 2.djvu/98

 9z KECOKDS OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION Monday MADISON July N. It. ay. Mas- ay. Ct. a�. Pa. ay. Del. no. Md. ay. Va. a�.N.C. ay. S.C. ay. Geo. ay. [Ayesre9; noes--I.] Mr. Govr. Morris & Mr. King moved that the representa- tion in the second branch consist of members from each State, who shall vote per capita. 6 Mr Elseworth said he had alway approved of voting in that mode. Mr. Govr. Morris moved to fill the blank with three. He wished the Senate to be a pretty numerous body. If two members only should be allowed to each State, and a majority be made a quorum the power would be lodged in 14 members, which was too small a number for such a trust. Mr Ghorum preferred two to three members for the blank. A small number was most convenient for deciding on peace & war &c. which he expected would be vested in the 2d. branch. The number of States will also increase. Kentucky, Vermont, the province of Mayne & Franklin will probably soon be added to the present number. He presumed also that some of the largest States would be divided. The strenghth of the general Govt. will lie not in the largeness, but in the smallness of the States. Cot. Mason thought 3 from each State including new States would make the zd. branch too numerous. Besides other objections, the additional expence ought always to form one, where it was not absolutely necessary. Mr. Williamson. If the number be too great, the distant States will not be on an equal footing with the nearer States. The latter can more easily send & support their ablest Citizens. He approved of the voting per capita. On the question for filling the blank with "three" N.H. no. Mas. no. Cont. no. Pa. a�. Del. no. Va. no. N. C. no. S.C. no. Geo. no. [Ayes -- ; noes-- 8.]  On question for filling it with "two." Agreed to nem- con, Mr. L Martin was opposed to voting per Capita, as depart- ing from the idea of the States being represented in the 2d. branch. See Appendix A, CLXX, CLXXI. Journal includes Maryland in the negative.

�