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 KECOKDS OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION Thursday MADISON /lugust 30 other States into the Union, and new States to be formed by the division or junction of States now in the Union, with the consent of the Legislature of such State" (The first part was meant for the case of Vermont to secure its admission) On the question, (it passed in the Negative} N.H. ay. Mas. ay. Ct. ay. N.J. no. Pa. ay. Del. no. Md. no. Va. no. N. C. no. S. C ay. Geo. no. [Ayes reS; noes--6.] Docr. Johnson s0 moved to insert the words "hereafter formed or" after the words "shall be" in the substitute for art: XVII, (the more clearly to save Vermont as being already formed into a State, from a dependence on the consent of N. York to her admission.) (The motion was agreed to Del. & Md. only dissenting.)t Mr Governr. Morris moved to strike out the word "limits" in the substitute, and insert the word "jurisdiction" (This also was meant to guard the case of Vermont, the jurisdiction of N. York not extending over Vermont which was in the exercise of sovereignty, tho' Vermont was within the asserted limits of New York) On this question N-- H-- a�-- Mas-- a�. Ct ay-- N.J. no. Pa. ay. (Del. a�} t Md. ay. Va ay-- N. C. no. S.C. no. Geo. no. [Ayes -- 7; noes -- 4-] Mr. L. Martin, urged the unreasonableness of forcing & guaranteeing the people of Virginia beyond the Mountains, the Western people, of N. Carolina. & of Georgia, & the people of Maine, to continue under the States now governing them, without the consent of those States to their separation. Even if they should become the rnajority, the majority of Counti, as in Virginia may still hold fast ',the dominion over them. Again the majority may place a the seat of Government entirely among themselves & for their own conveniency, and still keep the injured parts of the States in subjection, under the guarantee of the Genl. Government X�ne preceding was crossed out: "The word 'limits' was struck out of". Notice the order o questions in the Journal. n Taken from Journal.  Probably taken from Jogrnal.  Crossed out "hold".

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