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 9:Z RECORDS OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION Thursday MADISON August Mr Pinkney then withdrew his proposition. The xst sect. of art: VII being so amended as to read "The Legislature shall fulfil the engagements and discharge the debts of the U. S, 8: shall have the power to lay & collect taxes duties imposts & excises" (was agreed to) x4 Mr. Butler expressed his dissatisfaction lest it should com- pel payment as well to the Blood-suckers who had speculated on the distresses of others, as to those who had fought 8: bled for their country. He would be ready he said tomorrow to vote for a discrimination between those classes of people, and gave notice that he should move for a reconsideration. Art IX. sect. x. being resumed, to wit "The Senate of the U.S. shall have power to make treaties, and to appoint Am- bassadors, and Judges of the Supreme Court." Mr. (Madison) observed that the Senate represented the States alone, and that for this as well as other obvious reasons it was proper that the President should be an agent in Treatles. '5 Mr. Govr. Morris did not know that he should agree to refer the making of Treaties to the Senate at all, but for the present wd. move to add as an amendment to the section, after "Treaties"--"but no Treaty shall be binding on the U.S. which is not ratified by a law." MrMadison suggested the inconvenience of requiring a legal ratification of treaties of alliance for the purposes of war &c &c Mr. Ghorum. Many other disadvantages must be experi- enced if treaties of peace and all negociations are to be prevl- ousl 7 ratified- and if not prevously, the Ministers would be at a loss how to proceed-- What would be the case in G. Britain if the King were to proceed in this manet? American Ministers must go abroad not instructed by the same Author- ity (as will be the case with other Ministers) which is to ratify their proceedings. Mr. Govr. Morris. As to treaties of alliance, they will oblige foreign powers to send their Ministers here, the very it See further August x8 (with references under note 6), August zi-zz, August z4, August z5 (with references under note 5). Upon this question and its determination, see Appendix A, CCLXXIV CCLXXVI. .

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