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 3 INVESTIGATION OF NAZI AND OTHER PROPAGANDA The CI~A~BIAN. NTell,did yen tell him that? Mr. RIACGUIRE.No, sir; I did not. The Crrarnarn~.Did he say to you " IVliat ain I to talk about?" And did you say to him, " Well, we lmve your speh here ", and. on left it? Did you leave a speech tllerc? Ilr. 1rac6untN. NO.sir.. 2--- 'I'lic (71 I A ilrnla~.Ditl ~lilytalk of that kind take place? Mr. AhcGuntE. No, sir. The Crumara~.Was there any talk about how or from when these two or three hundred other men mere to go to Chicago? Mr. &IACGUIRE.No, sir. Tho CI~AIPNAN.Dih you at any time say that you would seo to it that there expenses were paid-tllnt " We have plenty "? Mr. M~ICGDTRE.No. sir. rile (~III~RMAN.W& Yr. Doyle aith you the second time that you visited him ? Bfr. MACGUIRE.No, sir. Mr. Doyle was only with me once. l The CIIATBB~AN. At any time did you take out a bank book and show lii~ndeposits in it? Mr.-- Rl~cGmnu.No, sir. The CXIAIRB~AN.One with around 40 or 50 thousand dollars? , Mr. BIACGUIRE.No, sir. The CIIAIRMAN.Where did you see him the second time, Mr. hIacGuire? - .. Mr. MacGmn~.General Butler? The CII~III~MAN. Yes. Mr. R~ACGUIRE.Well, Mr. AfcCormaclr, I do not know whether it nras clown in Philadelphia or whether it was in Newark at a mectin of the Twenty-ninth Division; or he wrote me a letter, I believe, an9 said that he rvas oing to be at this meetin in Newark, ns far is I g can recollect; or e called me up and nske me if I would go over f there. It was on a Sunday, and I went over. I think that is tlu second tiae I met hiin; or the third time, rather, because the secon(l tiinc was when you say I was down there wit11 this speech, and a forth. The CIXAIRMAN.I am not saying anything. What happened in Newark? Alr. BIncGmns. In Newark? Tlle CIIAIAN.Yes. i\fr. ~hl~dil~l~t~. I went o~-t~rtlicr.e, i111d I ~rlrtGc:nenll nstlc~: I loolcctl him ti~-went up to his rooln-and he aslted me to have lunch wit11 him and then later go and hear his sl>eecllin the theater do~vn tlicre-I forget the name of it. I said, " Certainly "; and \Ire hncl I1111ch aith him and then went down and iieard his sl,eech; and nftsr tlli~tIIV\\Titssarroa~ldnl~vit~lln lot o E Lllo~vs,and he rvus goi11.g to st:iy tllem for the dinner that they were going to have that n~dlt, nnil I went home. T11e CIIIRMAN. You were in the Navy during the war? Mr. MACGUIRE.Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN.Horv did you llappen to b at this convention ol tl~cTwentv-ninth? RIr. BIA~GUIRE.He invited me. The CZ~AIRBIAN.He wrote you and invited you 1 311.. AI.\c(~uIRE.Yes, sir. INVESTIGATION OF NAZI AND OTHER PROPAGANDA bd '7 CHAIUXAH.Have you got the letter0 Mdh,rnt~.He either wrote me or called me on the telephone ; --- - r,1 do no6 know. .The CIIAJRYAN.You never showed him a bank book9 Mr. AC(~UINN.I never did; no sir. The C~:lrlta~*a. Ik, you know &olonol Murphyf 3Ir. BlaeGmm. Yes, sir. r l'lm CIIAIRYA~.Are you associated with him in any way? Bfr. MAGGUIRE.Yes sir; he is my boss. The CnarrYrn. ~ih you mention his m to General Butler? Mr. 3lacGu1m. No, sir; excq that he inferred that because ' 'tinB L the Hml. 'l%e CIEAIPSUN.Did lle at any time ask you where you got the i money! - Blr. UAGGUIRE. I never had any money, and he never asked me if I had any. '1%~C~IAIRXA~. In what way did Colonel Murphy's name come into tlu conversation ? Mr. &frcGuim. I cannot' answer that; I do not know. I do not tl~iilkit ever came in in a disc~sionbetween General Buhr and Crrnura~. Did ou ever mention Mr. Clark to him? hLncGu~rm.Mr. 8lrirkt Yes; in connection. with the com- for a sound dollar. I mentioned that Mr. Clark was the man as ping to back up the oommih. c CHAIRYAN.In what way ba& up the cohtteet Ir. ?AC~UIH~P. With money. CIXAIRAX. Did h@? &~A&UI~R Yes, sir. CHAI~MAN.How mud1 did he give! M~cGu~us.$30,000. CHAIRMAN.Whom did he give it to? MA&UI~. He gave it to me. CHAIRMAN.Where is Umt money? MAOGSQIRZ.The money wtrs duly put in the Central Han~ver In whose name? Ai1t1 a committee formed to function. Tlre CIIAIIYAN.In wllose name! A coarmittee for a sound dollar and a sound cur- lot is tile way it was deposited? Mr. Irldurnu. Yes. The CEIAIRMAN.When wns that money givan to you? Mr. MA&UIRE. I cannot give you h exaet dahs. The CCZIAIRYL~W. Was it given before your talks aith Butler or afterward? blr. MRE. That was lang afterward. The money that Mr. Crk cove me WMS given to me long afbr the Chicego convention .a?the Jkgion. b1910 CIIAIRXAN.That was in 19St bir. MA&~RE.Yes, sir. I should say around Oc*r or uvotlibcr 1933.
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