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Glenn SimpsonPage 111 other issues came up two plus years into the case and he was clearly dealing with them, but I don't recall anyone sort of giving me a specific explanation, you know, of what he was doing.

MR. FOSTER: What other issues?

MR. SIMPSON: The issues of the — what do you call it, HRAGI, the foundation and the congressional stuff.

BY MR. DAVIS:

Q. You mentioned he started showing up at meetings in 2016. Who else attended these meetings?

A. I don't specifically remember. I mean, Ed Lieberman I think was at a meeting. Again, I don't think it was — it wasn't a lot of meetings, just one or two, but it was at Baker Hostetler.

MR. FOSTER: Can you explain briefly who Ed Lieberman is.

MR. SIMPSON: Ed Lieberman is a lawyer in Washington who has a specialty in international tax who worked for Baker Hostetler on some of the analysis of the alleged tax evasion by Hermitage Capital and William Browder. And then subsequently also he knows Rinat from I guess, I don't know, college or something and subsequently the two of 1-800-FOR-DEPO