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 ship called the Rose: I think the 15th. I was on board the ship the day she sailed, and saw him on board.

“Q. Did you, at any time after Lieutenant Symons had discharged himself from the service, see him and Lieutenant Kent together? – A. I am not certain, after the 3d of September, but it was after Lieutenant Kent had taken the command of the ship.

“Q. Was it after the day on which Mr. Symons is entered as discharged? – A. Ves it was.

“Q. Do you know of any measure used by Lieutenant Kent to apprehend Lieutenant Symons, and bring him to trial for so discharging himself? – A. No.

“Q. When the Porpoise returned, was the broad pendant then flying? – A. I cannot say, because the ship brought to, a little way within the heads, at eight miles from Sydney; and there. Captain Porteous took command of her, by commission from the Admiralty. I saw Captain Porteous’s commission.

“Q. Do you know if Lieutenant Kent waited on Commodore Bligh on his return? – A. No, he did not: Capt. Porteous put him in arrest, on his going on board after his second arrival.

“Q. Did Commodore Bligh acknowledge any orders, by writing, or by book? – A. I do not recollect any particular order to that effect; it was sometimes one way, sometimes another.

“Q. At the time of the Porpoise sailing the first and second time, was the Porpoise hindered communicating with the commodore? – A. I cannot speak positively as to Lieutenant Kent being prevented; but Governor Bligh had threatening letters both from Major Johnstone and Colonel Foveaux, in case he communicated with the officers of the Porpoise.

“Q. Had the prisoner attempted to communicate with the commodore, would he have been prevented access to him? – A. He did wait once on the commodore. I saw him, but the commodore did not. After he had taken the command the commodore was fearful of seeing him, in consequence of those threats. When Colonel Foveaux arrived, on the 30th of July, he allowed communication until the beginning of September, or latter end of August; during which time. Lieutenant Kent repeatedly waited on him on various occasions: I think it was September.

“Q. Could the prisoner at all times have communication with the commodore through you, the secretary? – A. No, he could not, on account of those threats. I frequently saw Lieutenant Kent, and was desired to impress on his mind, not to sail without his orders; but I never took it as orders from Governor Bligh, fearful what the consequence would be.

“Q. Did the prisoner supersede Lieutenant Symons in the Porpoise? – A. Yes.

“Q. Did he receive any directions from Commodore Bligh respecting