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Rh Die Martis, 10° Aprilis 1838.

The Earl of DEVON in the Chair.

  Mr. JOEL SAMUEL POLACK is called in, and further examined as follows:

WERE you at the Bay of Islands as a Trader?
 * I was.

Were you a Retail Trader?
 * Retail and Wholesale.

Did you keep what is called a Grog Shop?
 * No, decidedly not. I sold, as every Person in the Bay of Islands did, ardent Spirits. I have sold them in Sydney, without seeing any thing of the Kind; by giving Certificates. In such a Place as New Zealand we cannot do that, but I have sold them wholesale; decidedly not retail.

You have never sold Spirits to be consumed on your Premises?
 * Decidedly not.

You are well acquainted with Mr. Montefiore?
 * I am.

Did you associate with him while he was at the Bay of Islands?
 * He was the only Person I did associate with there, except Captain Powditch, a Person equally respectable.

The Witness is directed to withdraw.

  The Rev. FREDERICK WILKINSON is called in, and further examined as follows:

YOU were in New Zealand lately, were you not?
 * I was in New Zealand for about Three Months this Time last Year.

Will you state what led you to go there, and with whom you went.
 * I went with the Rev. Mr. Marsden, the Chaplain of New South Wales, having been myself a Chaplain in New South Wales, and was on my Passage to England, and took this Opportunity of going to New Zealand, that I might see the Country, and the Progress that had been made by the Missionaries.

You are not at all connected with the Church Missionary Society yourself?
 * Not at all.

Where did you first go?
 * We went to Hokianga, one of the Places.

On landing, what was the Course you took as to Residence?
 * I remained for a few Days with the Wesleyan Missionaries with Mr. Marsden, and then I walked across the Country, with a native Guide, to find out a Road that Mrs. Wilkinson might be able to accompany me to Waimate.

Did Mrs. Wilkinson afterwards accompany you?
 * Yes; Mr. Marsden, Miss Marsden, Mrs. Wilkinson, and Two little Children.

Did you cross the Island more than once?
 * I travelled Four or Five Times across from Hokianga to the Bay of Islands.

In the course of that Time had you much Intercourse with the Natives?
 * I was entirely with them Three Days. The first Time I went across I was

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