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for the death of the first of the two is th following passage in John Gwyn's ' Memoirs,

&88: "About two months after [i.e., u ovember, 1649] the Earl of Kynoole fel sick at Bursey, the Earl of Morton's house [in Orkney], and there died of a pleurisy " and in a letter to the Athenaeum of 11 Novem her, 1893, Prof. Gardiner says that a lettei of Ogilvy of Powrie, 3 March, 1650 "and indeed, if this Lord Kinnoul had not come timeously over with that last recruit " shows that Gwyn did not blunder in alleging the death. I have not seen Ogilvy's letter, but the extract given does not, to my mind, prove anything. Prof. Gardiner also refers to Bal- four's * Annals,' iii. 433, but all that can be established therefrom is the fact that an Earl of Kinnoul was in the Orkneys at or about the time of his uncle the Earl of Morton's death there, 12 November, 1649. The authority for the death of the next ear] in 1650 is a statement by Gordon that Lord Kinnoul "being faint for lack of meat, and not able to travel any further, was left there among the mountains, and is supposed to have perished."

Frankly speaking, though with all re- spect to the eminent historian, I cannot believe in either of these earls ; and it seems to me far simpler to consider that Gwyn's specific statement and Gordon's supposition are wrong as to the fact of death than that an earl, or earls, should have grown to man's estate and been active lieutenants of Mont- rose in the middle of the seventeenth cen- tury, yet should leave no discoverable trace in peerages, records, or registers. I feel little doubt that all these references are to William, third Earl of Kinnoul (see G. E. C.'s 1 Complete Peerage,' sub 'III. E. Kinnoul'); that he went to the Orkneys in November, 1649, to raise the islanders for the king ; very likely fell ill of pleurisy there, and was rumoured to have died ; recovered, fought by Montrose's side at Carbisdale, escaped with him, and was left in an exhausted state in the hills ; again recovered, married twice, and died in his bed in 1677. VICARY GIBBS.

ISAAC FAMILY OF KENT. Information wanted about this family (Sable, a bend, in the sinister point a leopard's head or), who owned Condies (or Cundy) Hall in Whitstable, Hoth in parish of Patricksbourne (in which church some of them were buried), and other- property in Kent. John Isaac was Sheriff of Kent in 1461. James Isaac was Marshal of Dover Castle and keeper of the artillery there in 1487, and two years later Bailiff of bandwich. Edward Isaac, who seems to

have been the last male of the family, left three daughters : by first wife (daughter of Jerningham) a daughter Jane, who married (1) Martin Sidley, (2) Sir Henry Palmer ; by second wife Margaret (daughter of Sir Richard Wheatwill) two, Mary, married Thomas Appleton of Suffolk, and Mar- garet, married John (second son of Sir John) Jermye of Suffolk. Books on Kent have been consulted. ARTHUR HUSSEY. Tankerton-on-Sea, Kent.

MOTTO OF THE ORDNANCE OFFICE. Crest, Az., three field-pieces on their carriages in pale or ; on a chief arg. as many cannon balls sa. Motto, " Sua tela tonanti." What is the meaning of this motto, and where is it taken from 1 It seems to mean " To the thunderer his own weapons "- meeting Jove with weapons (thunder) as good as his. J. H.

CROSDILL. I wish to find the exact date of death of John Crosdill, a celebrated English 'cellist, who died at Escrick, Yorks, in October, 1825. As this is not recorded in the parish register, he was probably buried elsewhere. The date is not given in any book known to me. A. F. H.

FISHER FAMILY. I am trying to trace the pedigree of a certain Daniel Fisher, a wire- drawer of Stepney, a widower aged thirty- five, who had licence, dated 6 April, 1687, to marry Anne Busine, a widow. They had a son James, born 20 August, 1688, who married Anne, daughter of Alexander Garrett, of Stepney. James Fisher, in his will, proved 9 September, 1737 (P.C.C., Wake, 205), desires to be buried by his parents at Whitechapel, and mentions his son Alexander. Any in- formation re above will be thankfully re- ceived. T. COLYER-FERGUSSON.

Ightham Mote, near Sevenoaks.

' AUGUSTUS DE MORGAN ON THE DIFFICULTY OF THE CORRECT DESCRIPTION OF BOOKS.' The above is the title given by the * Encyclopaedic Dictionary ' in giving a quotation illustrating with that title, so far as I can ascertain, but it is most probably an essay in one of De Morgan's many books. The correct reference would much oblige. WM. H. PEET.
 * Colophon.' There was no book published

LITTLE JOHN'S REMAINS. In Mr. S. T. Hall's ' Rambles in the Country surrounding the Forest of Sherwood ' mention is made of 'a party of great folk from Yorkshire having lad it re-exhumed and taken it with them to Janon Hall, near Barnsley." The "it" was >f Little John, Robin Hood's famous fidus Achates^ whose grave, according to imme-
 * he thigh-bone, thirty-two inches in length,