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NOTES AND QUERIES. [9 th s. IL NOV. 26,

"King Charles, and more than him the Duke." Bolingbroke, ' Dissert, on Parties,' Letter 3.

"You or 1 may as lawfully preach as them that do."-Hobbes, ' Hist, of Civil Wars,' p. 6. The sun upon the calmest sea Appears not half so bright as thee.

Prior. As he was a poet sublimer than me.

Prior.

"Phalaris, who was so much older than me." Bentley, ' Dissert, on Phalaris,' p. 357.

Upon these Lowth remarks that it ought to be "I," "we," &c. But he observes that "per- haps the following may admit of doubt ": Nor hope to be myself less miserable By what I seek, but others to make such As I. Milton, 'P. L.,'ix. 126.

As to " shall " in the third person, there is, p. 78 : "Shall in the second and third persons promises, commands, or threatens." To which there is this note :

"This distinction was not observed formerly as to the word shall, which was used in the second and third persons to express simply the event. So like- wise shmdd was used, where we should make use of would, in the Vulgar Translation of the Bible."

In respect of " Whom do men say " there is this parallel from Locke, p. 120 :

"If you were here you would find three or four in the parlour after dinner, whom you would say passed their time agreeably." 'Letter to Moly- neaux.'

Also : " He whom ye pretend reigns in heaven" (Adventurer, No. 76), with the remark, "It ought to be who."

The explanation of the singular verb "abideth" with three nominatives can be compared with the remarks, p. 131 :

" But sometimes after an enumeration of parti- culars thus connected the verb follows in the singular number, and is understood to be applied to

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and salt, and a mass of iron, is easier to bear than a man without understanding' (Ecclus. xxii. 15)."

It is worthy of remark that this is still the translation of the K.V. So it is " abideth " <1 Cor. xiii. 13) in the R.V. So also is it " heavier than them both " (Prov. xxvii. 3) and " shall kill me " (1 Kings xii. 27).

ED. MAESHALL, F.S.A.

"Now abideth these three." But was

not -ath at one time a plural termination, .and may not this account for many such sur- vivals? Thus in the Litany, "Craft and subtilty worketh." W. C. B.

To VITENI'S examples may be added these :

"And Balak sent yet rot-in princes, more, anc more honourable than they;' Num. xxii. 15.

This can only be justified on the assumption that they is the subject of some verb under- stood, and this seems to me a mere assump- tion made to account for the inaccuracy.

' Let the sea make a noise, and all that therein is : the round world, and they that dwell therein." Ps. xcviii. 8, Prayer Book.

No one would write, " Let they that dwell in the world make a noise."

W. D. SWEETING. Maxey, Market Deeping.

It seems pretty certain that the second Collect for the Queen whatever ancient authority may have influenced it was com- posed in 1549. See Blunt and Procter.

EDWAED H. MAESHALL, M.A.

Hastings.

COLLECTORS MAEK (9 th S. ii. 327). A corre- spondent has directed attention to " the best, indeed the only work on this subject, a valu- able book by Mr. Louis Fagan of the British Museum." See ' N. & Q.,' 6 th S. x. 168, 217.

EVEEAED HOME COLEMAN. 71, Brecknock Road.

WEITING ENGINE : GEOEGE RIDPATH (9 th S. ii. 129, 235). A long account of Rid path will be found in the 'D.N.B.,' vol. xlviii. Refer- ence is there made to John Dunton's 'Life and Errors,' p. 179, from which work the fol- lowing extract is made :

" It was this ingenious gentleman [Ridpath] that invented the Polygraphy, or Writing Engine, by which one may with great facility write two, four, six, or more copies of any one thing upon so many different sheets of paper at once. This Writing Engine is likewise attended with this advantage, that, being moved by the foot while the hand guides the Pens, it keeps the whole body in warmth and exercise, which prevents many of the usual incon- veniences of a sedentary life, besides the time which the engine saves in dispatch."

RICHAED LAWSON. Urmston,

PATTENS (9 th S. i. 44, 336, 413, 471 ; ii. 95, 235, 334). Why will not ME. THOS. RATCLIFFE allow that there were two kinds of clogs :

(1) the wooden-soled foot-gear worn in certain parts of England up to the present time ;

(2) and the ninged wooden-soled overshoes ladies paddled about in fifty years ago ? Dr. Joseph Wright is more liberal-minded in 'The English Dialect Dictionary.' He has, under Clog : "1. A shoe with a wooden sole, gen. of alder-wood, strengthened with iron at the heels and edges ; a wooden shoe," and " 4. Obsol. A kind of patten or sandal, worn by women over their shoes to protect their feet in wet or dirty weather wnen walking short distances." The last three words are a