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 9 th S. II. JULY 2, '98.]

NOTES AND QUERIES.

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Went worth, M.P., heir to the property (Wentworth-Woodhouse), but not to the title, of his maternal uncle William, second Earl of Strafford. This lady was simply Mrs. Wentworth. Her maiden name was Proby. She was a widow in 1723, and died in 1743. W. L. RUTTON.

27, Elgin Avenue, W.

TURNER (9 th S. i. 389). I do not know whether your correspondent has referred to my book 'Kingston Parish Registers '('Monu- ments '). In that he would see there is a monument to Margaret, wife of Thomas Turner, of Ileden, wno died 4 Aug., 1698, in the forty-seventh year of her age and twenty- sixth of her marriage. There is also entered on the same tablet the death of the said Thomas Turner, 1 April, 1715, in the sixty-eighth year of his age. I think that the following mar- riage allegation (' Harleian Society's Publica- tions,' vol. xxiii. p. 210) must apply to the above :

" 1672. Dec. 18. Thomas Turner, of S. Andrew's, Holborn, Gent., Bach., abt. 25, Mrs. Margaret Theobald, of St. Saviour's, South wark, Sp.,abt. 22, her parents dead ; at St. Dunstan's East.

The ages and dates correspond with those on the tablet. Moreover, in the elaborate coat of arms above the inscription I find, from Berry's ' Dictionary of Heraldry,' the arms of Theobald included : Gules, six crosses crosslet fitchee or, 3, 2, and 1. Crest, a phcenix rising out of flames proper. I should mention that in my book Mr. R. Hovenden kindly gave the heraldic description of the arms, &c., as I am not versed in heraldry. If desired, I could furnish verbatim copy of the inscription on the tablet ; but my book is in the British Museum, also at Lambeth Library.

I find from Bishop of London's Marriage Licences (Harleian Soc., vol. xxvi. rx 326) the second marriage of this Thomas Turner as follows :

" 1700. Thomas Turner of Ileden, Kingston, Kent, Esq r, Widower, 50, and M Susanna Ryves, of Stepney, Wid., 50 ; at St. James in Fields."

CHRIS. HALES WILKIE. Kingston Rectory, Canterbury.

Thomas Turner, of Ileden, Kent, married Margaret Theobald, 18 Dec., 1672. He was barrister-at-law and clerk in Chancery. If he is the man asked for, I can give full par- ticulars of his wife's family, and should be grateful for his pedigree.

MRS. STEPHENSON.

Warley Barracks, Brentwood.

GENERAL WADE (9 th S. i. 129, 209, 253, 334, 376). There have been several references to

him ; but I cannot remember to have seen this notice. Bishop Newton, in the preface to his 'Dissertations on the Prophecies,' in 1754, states that

" what first suggested the design were some

conversations formerly with a great general

who was a man of good understanding and some reading, but unhappily had no great regard for re- vealed religion and, when the prophecies were

urged as a proof of revelation, constantly derided the notion."

There is a remark upon this in Felix Sum- merly's 'Handbook for Westminster Abbey,' abridged edition, p. 20 : " Bishop Newton is said to have been prompted to write his ' Dissertations on the Prophecies ' by conver- sations with this general."

ED. MARSHALL, F.S.A.

MOON THROUGH COLOURED GLASS (9 th S. i.

328, 377, 393). A writer in the Athenceum, 12 September, 1896, says :

"The pictorial splendours of 'The Eve of St. Agnes ' have so intoxicated all readers that Millais was taken to task for giving a green hue to moon- beams falling through a stained-glass window. It was of no use to tell the objectors that green is the true colour of Nature's own moonbeams falling through stained glass, even though they should fall on Madeline's fair breast. Keats having con- descended to compete with Nature in this matter, having dipped his royal brush in all the colours with whicn the sun himself can stain the morning spray when he rises above the sea-line and turns to gold the brown cliffs of Cromer, why discuss the question of his veracity? why lug in Nature?......

Not for one moment do we challenge all this praise ; on the contrary, we agree with most of it."

If Keats, in the stanza of ' The Eve of St. Agnes ' (the twenty-fifth) that is alluded to, is untrue to Nature, as I believe he certainly is, one feels inclined to say, "Tant pis pour Madame la Nature ! " Keats, however, in this matter errs in good company. See ' The Lay of the Last Minstrel,' canto ii. stanza xi., the last couplet. JONATHAN BOUCHIER.

Ropley, Alresford.

In ' The Lav of the Last Minstrel ' there is even a more oeautiful allusion to this than in ' The Eve of St. Agnes,' though it is to be feared more fanciful than true. The passage deservea quotation :

The silver light, so pale and faint, Shew'd many a prophet and many a saint,

Whose image on the glass was dyed ; Full in the midst, his Cross of Red Triumphant Michael brandished

And trampled the Apostate's pride. The moonbeam kiss'd the holy pane, And threw on the pavement a bloody stain. Canto ii. stanza xi.

Suppose, for instance, that some corre- spondentif of a scientific turn so much the