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NOTES AND QUERIES. [9* s. XIL OCT. 31, IMS.

James IV. instead of James VI. J. B. P., while pointing out this error, strains the matter beyond, I think, the legitimate.

J. B. P. states that Roull ** is quite different from Bedrule," but his unsupported assertion is only a contradiction of my expressed " opinion," and is not disprove!. " The Lord of Bedroul " was a Turnbull, and will be found in * Calendar of Border Families ' (from which I quoted in my note under my first heading). Again, from the same authority we have, " The Trumbles are named from the water of Roull," with its variations, which have not been exhausted by me.

If J. B. P. refers to the authorities I name below, he will find both the town and lands of Roull are mentioned in the Jedburgh Circuit in 1622 ; and perhaps he will in- form us if Roberti de Roule, mentioned in membrana 3, Rotulus Scotise de anno 14 Ricardi II., is "quite different" (to use the same words) from Bedroule and Roull above mentioned. I suppose the river's name supplies the penultimate of the name ; J. B. P.'s statement as to Tho. Turnbull of Roull, in Bonchester, being "probably a small proprietor in the district" does not appeal to me as bearing in the slightest degree upon the main point of my first note.

Much information on the subject, which apparently J. B. P. lacks, can be found in 4 Annals of Ha wick, 1214 to 1814' (and supple- ment), ' Annals of Borderland,' ' Border Raids and Reivers,' ' Border Battles,' Leslie, and, not least or last, Pitcairn's ' Criminal Trials.'

ALFRED CHAS. JONAS.

Thornton Heath, Surrey.

MORE CHURCH, SHROPSHIRE (9 th S. xii. 146, 216). I am much obliged to your corre- spondent for his answer about the arms in More Church. Mr. Creyke is right in com- paring them with those of Brasenose College, founded by Bishop Smyth. The principal difference is that in the case of Brasenose the sinister half of the shield is blazoned, 1 and 4, a bend between three posthorns, two and one ; 2 and 3, a bend between three crosslets, two and one. The dexter half of the shield is identical with that of More Church, as is the inescutcheon of the see of Lincoln.

Whilst on the subject of Malvern tiles, I may mention that I saw in Saffron Walden Museum, Essex, some fifteenth-century frag- ments of the usual pattern found in neigh- bouring churches. I believe such an occur- rence is rare in the eastern counties.

With reference to the Catholic books, printed, as is asserted at the first reference, in London in 1605, which exist in More Church Father V. Phillips, the well-known Redemp-

tionist, tells me they are certainly of foreign origin, and that the imprint ** Londini " was only adopted for selling purposes. H.

OVERSTRAND CHURCH (9 th S. xii. 308). On the south side of the chancel of the interest- ing church of Dedham, Essex, is a recess furnished with a chimney which passes up- wards through an outer buttress. It is said to have been for an oven for baking the bread used in the sacrament, but it is in a strange position for such a purpose. The chimneyed recess at Overstrand occupies a portion of the sacred edifice far more likely to be used for any kind of cooking operations.

I. C. GOULD.

In answer to L. L. K.'s inquiry about a recess and flue in Overstrand church tower, I may say that an exactly similar one exists in the tower of Lamberhurst Church, Kent, which is a pre-Reformation one. J. L.

Lamberhurst Vicarage.

MS. JOURNAL OF A LONDON CITIZEN (9 th S. xii. 203, 242, 316). After reading MR. RIM- BAULT DIBDIN'S note, I referred again to the MS. He is right. It should be"Mrs."not u Mr. Dibdin." In transcribing the MS. I had oftentimes difficulty, from the minuteness of the handwriting, in making out many of the words and abbreviations. I am obliged to MR. DIBDIN for drawing my attention to the mistake. A. S.

SOUVENIR NORMAND (9 th S. xii. 249). The "Dives" mentioned herein is of course the place whence William I. sailed in 1066, and takes its name from the river Dives. The town should not be confounded with St. Pierre-sur-Dives (near Mezidon, the junction for Caen), with its grand three-towered abbey church, though many people make the mistake. JOHN A. RANDOLPH.

GOTT (9 th S. xii. 228). Sir Henry Thomas Gott, Knight, of Newlands, in the parish of Chalfont St. Peter, Bucks, and Ann his wife (nee Hooper) had five sons and two daughters, namely, Henry the eldest, who died in Janu- ary, 1792 ; Richard, the second, who in that year was an ensign in the 54th Regiment ; Samuel, Thomas, and Sarah, who were then above the age of twenty-one years ; and Ann and William, who were then respectively aged eighteen and seventeen.

It is possible that the Henry and Richard above mentioned may be the Henry and Richard Gott who were admitted to West- minster School in 1775. Richard Gott was living in 1812, when he joined in the con- veyance of Newlands to a purchaser.