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proved 1 June, 1657. The 'other was the second son of Henry Gorges, of Batcombe, co. Somerset, and was brother of Dr. Kobert Gorges, of Kilbrew, co. Meath (secretary to Henry Cromwell and Duke of Schomberg), a great-grandson of Sir William Gorges, of St. Budeaux, <kc. This Col. John Gorges was Governor of Londonderry, M.P. for Derry, Donegal, and Tyrone, 1659 ; of Soraerseate, co. Londonderry. He died 1680. He was married twice, his first wife being Edith Symes, and his second wife Jane, daughter of Henry, second Lord Blayney. He had issue by both these ladies, the males of whom, however, died out, s.p., in two genera- tions. The Ferdinando Gorges who built Eye Manor House, co. Hereford, was of another branch distinct from Sir Ferdinando Gorges. He was fourth son of the above Henry Gorges of Batcorabe, and likewise a great-grandson of Sir William Gorges. His daughter Barbara married her cousin (Earl of Coningsby). The ' D.N.B.' refers to this ferdmando Gorges in a most vindictive manner, for reasons I am unable to fathom, and quotes him as " sometimes styled Captain Gorges." I have not come across a single reason for this. Nor was he from Barbados. He was a merchant of London (of the Ex- change), and traded with the West Indies. His second wife was the daughter of a Bar- bados family. I hardly think he would have been given the freedom of the city of Salisbury had he been as black as the 'D.N.B.' paints him. No doubt this is due to another mix- up between the numerous Ferdinandos.

With regard to the Gorges monument restored in memory of Sir Ferdinando Gorges at bt. Budeaux, it is difficult to understand the connexion between it and the " Historical TT ie y i? i cifciz ens of the State of Maine, U.b., the St. Budeaux Gorges being entirely distinct from Sir Ferdinando's branch. I am afraid that some of the dates have been restored at the same time. The tablet states that Sir Wilham Gorges was buried there oh. 1583. He, however, died in the Tower of London, and was buried in the churchyard of ot. Peter ad Vincula, Tower Hill, 1584 Ad ministration was granted Lady Winifred relict, lately of St. Peter, London, 4 January' 1585. She was buried in Bath Abbey 1599 t is also stated that Tristram Gorges oh 1607 He was buried 8 May, 1608. Referring to the Gorges arms emblazoned on this monu- ment, why the mark of cadency ? Lozenev or and azure, a chevron gules, were the arms granted Sir Theobald Gorges as a new coat VJ -?i Ot, tho Lozen gy or and azure of D e Morville, formerly borne by the Gorges.

Therefore there is no necessity for the mark of cadency. It was not until 1640 that Sir Ferdinando received his charter from Charles I., though in the previous year he had been nominated Lord Palatine of Maine. jRe St. Budeaux inaccuracies in print : Tristram Gorges's marriage is given as 21 April, 1572 ; per register, 2 February, 1572. Burial, 18 May, 1607; register, 8 May, 1608. Birth of son William, 28 November, 1584 ; register, 23 November, 1584, bapt. Under these cir- cumstances he would have been baptized five days before his birth ! Comment is superfluous. THORNE GEOEGE.

Your correspondents appear to be unaware of the publication in 1890, by the Prince Society of Boston, Massachusetts, of a work by J. P. Baxter, A.M., entitled 'Sir Ferdi- nando and his Province of Maine.' It consists of three 4 to (7 in. by 8 in.) volumes (pp. 260, 270, 315), and is well illustrated. A view of the ' Church of St. Budeaux, Devon, con- taining the Gorges Family Monument, restored by the Maine Historical Society,' forma the frontispiece to the third volume. It includes an extended memoir of Sir F. Gorges; a copy of the charter of the province of Maine, 3 April, 1639 ; transcripts of his will, of documents relating to the Essex conspiracy, in which he was more or less involved, and of other works ; a remarkably full genealogy of the Gorges family (pp. 42) ; and transcripts of his correspondence extending from 1595 to 1646, and occupying upwards of 300 pages.

T. N. BRUSHFIELD, M.D. Salterton, Devon.

Allow me to refer your correspondents who are interested in this family to the pedigree which is given of Gorges of Longford, co. Wilts, m Burke's 'History of the Extinct baronetage.' The honour is there said to iiave been created 25 November, 1612, and to have become extinct in September, 1712. Ihe arms are engraved as Arg., a whirl- pool azure. In Boutell's 'English Heraldry,' under the name Gauges or Gorges, the coat is detmed as a " charge formed of a spiral line ot blue on a white field, and supposed to represent a whirlpool, borne by R. de Gorges." tie, it appears, died seised of the manor of Wraxall, inter alia, 17 Edward II.

Burke in the above-named book omits the Tests, as they are unimportant compared with the arms. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A.

Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge.

LLOYD FAMILY (9 th S. xii. 189).-! believe

ground Lloyd was an ancestor of John

Lloyd Deputy Town Clerk of Cardiff in the

rst half of the nineteenth century. ME