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and that the present usage in the East may well have sprung up since then.

With reference to the last reply, I hope MR. ANGUS will give his authority for his opening statement. Father Humphrey, S.J., in his ' Urbs et Orbis ' (London, Thos. Baker, 1899), says at p. 130 :

" Red is the pontifical colour, and if the liturgy does not demand another colour in a ceremony, the Pope's pastoral stole is always red. It is in red vestments that he lies in state when dead. In giving solemn absolution he wears a red cope shot with gold."

The italics are mine. The Pope's clothes for indoor or outdoor use are, I believe, always white or red ; but I have hitherto supposed that in saying Mass (except on solemn occasions, when he wears vestments peculiar to himself) he follows the ordinary liturgical colour-sequence.

JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT.

LATIN CONVERSATION (9 th S. x. 407). The paper Vox Urbis is published in Rome every fortnight ; the editor is the Cavaliere Aristide Leonori, Via Alessandrina, No. 76. It is a pity that English scholars do not support this paper more by their contribu- tions and subscriptions. A Latin paper is also published in Philadelphia. Jesuit fathers have told me that they receive a great deal of instruction in Latin, but as they are taught the continental (i.e., the correct) pronunciation they are unable to converse with English scholars.

HERBERT A. STRONG.

University College, Liverpool.

The title of an American journal published in Latin is as follows :

" Praeco Latinus : Periodicum gentium Latinum, menstruum, ad sermonem Latinum ut linguam jcultorum omnium gentium universam, animis in- culcandum."

Philadelphia is the place of publication, and it is now in its eighth or ninth volume.

W. R. B. PRIDEAUX. Royal College of Physicians.

Besides Vox Urbis and Concordia (this only partly in Latin) there are published Civis Romanus (Liuabach, Saxony), Phoenix (Red Lion House, Fleet Street), Post Prandium, illustrated (David Nutt), and Prceco Latinus (1731, Francis Street, Philadelphia). This last has printed, among other contributions of great interest, admirable metrical trans- lations of Shakespear's 'Julius Csesar,' the ' Alcestis ' of Euripides, Cowper's ' John Gilpin,' and many other well-known English poems and hymns, and a revised edition of Thomas a Kempis's ' De Imitando Christum ' rendered into classical Latin. Doubtless

back numbers containing any of these could be obtained from the editor on application. Some American colleges also publish small Latin journals. Of course a first essential for Latin becoming again a spoken language is that the Roman pronunciation be restored. EVACUSTES A. PHIPSON.

151, Strand, W.C.

Writing in the Fortnightly (No. 431, N.S.) on the question ' Are the Classics to Go 1 ' Prof. Postgate warmly advocates their reten- tion, and states his conviction that " if the ' dead ' languages and literatures are not to retire into the background they must be taught as if they were alive " i.e., the con- versational method of teaching should not be neglected. ''From the first, speaking and writing Latin should go hand in hand with reading it." The article mentions two jour- nals written in Latin which deal with the ordinary life of our times the Vox Urbis, of Rome, and the Prceco Latinus, of Philadelphia. " New words are used in both for the objects which were not known to the ancients."

CHAS. GILLMAN.

Church Fields, Salisbury.

MANOR COURT ROLLS (9 th S. x. 409). The Public Record Office has a very large number, and a thick folio volume has been printed giving particulars of each and all or them. The British Museum also has a large collec- tion of them. Much information regarding them will be found in a ' Manual for the Genealogist,' &c., by Richard Sims. The names of the lords of every manor from A.D. 1316 to 1559 will be found in Harl. MS. 6281. Nearly each of the catalogues (No. 247 is the last issued) of Mr. James Coleman, 9, Totten- ham Terrace, White Hart Lane, Tottenham, N., contains some Court Rolls for sale. An ex- amination of these catalogues would furnish MR. HONE with very much information.

It is a great pity that these most valuable records ever should be sold by their owners (usually for a very small sum), and thus become scattered over this country and abroad, beyond all possible recovery except in very few instances. Why not present them to either the Public Record Office or to the British Museum instead of selling them 1

C. MASON.

29, Emperor's Gate, S.W.

MR. HONE will find manyinstructivearticles in 4 th S.ii. 244, also the earliest trial in a manor court (1307), and references to works in the British Museum and elsewhere. See also 2 nd S. vii. ; 4 th S. ii., v. ; 5 th S. v. ; 7 th S. i., ii., viii., x., xi. ; 8 th S. i.

EVERARD HOME COLEMAN.