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NOTES AND QUERIES.

[2<iS. Nl., JAN. 5. '56.

mud, and that consequently it was determined in high judicial conclave, in order to avoid a recur- rence of the unseemly ridicule the accident oc- casioned, that the procession should in future be made in carriages.

As a sequence to MB. CUTHBERT BEDE'S Note, I would ask any city antiquary to inform me when first a Lord Mayor's state coach was built ? and what is the age of that which now gladdens the eyes " of the commonality " ? D. S.

The Office of High Sheriff (1 st S. xii. 405.) I rather think it has not been uncommon for the same individual to serve the office of sheriff twice in Wales. In vqfc ii. p. 188. of that excellent publication, The Cambrian Journal, it is stated that Foulke Lloyd, of Foxhall, was sheriff for Denbighshire, in 1592 and 1623, and that Dr. Ellis Price, of Plas Jolyn, was four times sheriff for that county within twenty-one years. There also appeared to be other instances in the extracts from Cathrall's North Wales, given at p. 186. of the same work. C. S. GREAVES.

County Magistrates (I* S. xii. 494.) In re- spect to Sussex, I have the satisfaction of inform- ing MR. FRERE, that the custom of excluding the clergy from the Commission of the Peace has been wisely broken through by the Lord Lieut, of the County, the Duke of Richmond, within the last year or two, by the appointment of two clergy- men in the eastern division as magistrates, one of them, however, not being a beneficed minister. The custom is said to have been introduced here by the Duke of Newcastle, who was lordlieut. of the county in the early part of last century.

W. S.

Hastings.

No clergyman has been placed in the Commis- sion of the Peace for the county of Derby for many years. The last clergyman who was a ma- gistrate for that county had originally been a barrister, and was afterwards ordained, and he had been put in the commission before he was ordained.

C. S. GREAVES.

Horse-chestnut (1 st S. xii. 407.) The Query respecting this common name of sEsculus, brings to my mind several instances in which the equine prefix is used in naming objects of the animal as well as of the vegetable kingdom ; thus we have horse-crab, horse-leech, horse-mussel, reference being obviously made to the external resemblance of these animals respectively to those bearing the simple names, but on a larger and coarser scale. Among vegetables we have the names horse-bean, horse-mint, and horse-vetch, employed to indicate species of large size or rank quality. With re- spect to that excellent adjunct to our national fare, the horse-radish (cochlearia), it appears to

have been so named merely to distinguish it from a nearly allied plant, the common radish (rapha- nus), a supposition which its adaptation to table rather than to stable purposes would tend to con- firm. Query, May not the use of such terms as horse-laugh, and horse-play, suggest a possible corruption of the word coarse in some of the above names ? H. M.

Dublin.

Bale, Bishop of Ossory (1 st S. ix. 324.) Has the REV. J. GRAVES seen the list of John Bale's works, which is found in The New and General Bio- graphical Dictionary, 12 vols., 8vo., published by T. Osborne, &c., 1761 ? A very long list is there given, taken from Mr. Fuller. I. R. R.

Norton (l !t S. ix. 272.) I have always under- stood the name of Norton simply to mean North- town, and if the situations of all the Nortons is looked to, the name, I believe, will be found to be properly applied in this sense. I. R. R.

Theobald Walter (1 st S. xii. 30.) As it can scarcely be disallowed to such celebrated and educated men as the brothers Theobald and Her- bert Walter, to have been well informed of the parentage of their mother, I suggest whether a variation he has pointed out between Lodge's Pedigree and the statement of Theobald, as pro- fessed to be given in his charter to the Abbey of Owney, may not have arisen from an error of transcription from the original document, or a misprint in the Chartce Antiques of the Irish Re- cx>rd Commission ; whence he has quoted, " Ma- tude de Waltines, matris mee."

There is no deficiency of evidence of both the brothers on the subject ; and I have a note of the foundation charter of the same Theobald, of the Convent of Arklow, a cell to Furness, erected for the soul's health, initial, " Matilda de Valunciis, matris mee," and " Hervei Walteri, patris mei." (Dugd. Monast., vi. 1128.)

The pedigree from the Harl. MS. is also other- wise inaccurate. It was Maud, daughter of Le Vavasour, widow of Theobald Walter, Pincern. Hib. (and not Maud de Valoines, his mother), who had to her second husband the famous Fulke Fitz Warine. He, in the 9th year of John, paying a fine to the king of 1200 marcs and two palfreys for the marriage ; and eight years afterwards had livery of the lands of her dowry lying in Amun- dernesse, co. Lane. : which lands appear to have been the grant of John, Earl of Moreton, as Earl of Lancaster, to his favourite Theobald, her first husband.

May I conclude this Note by repeating a Query (1* S. x. 46.) respecting another celebrity of the same age : William le Mareschal, wherefore his appellation De la Grace ? LEVERET.