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 414 NOTES AND QUERIES. [i2s.ix.Nov.i,mi. TUDOR TREVOR, EARL OF HEREFORD (12 S. ix. 290, 334, 377). Jeffreys of Acton derive from Awr ap Jenaf ap Niniaf, who some heralds give as son of Jenaf ap Cyhelyii of Trevor. Niniaf was eldest son of Cunreg ap Khiwallon by Judith, d. of Ivor Hen, Lord of Rhos. Rhiwallon was son of Dingad ap Tudor Trevor. Trevor of Brynkinalt married, A.D. 907, Augharad, d. of Howell Dda, King of Wales, had son, Gronvwy Duddsccaf, died 1037, married Augharad (in English, Mar- garet), d. of lago ap Idwal, Prince of North Wales. This is the Tudor Trevor descent of the Trevors of Brynkinalt. E. E. COPE. Tudor Trevor, Earl of Hereford and Lord of Whittington, is called the Tribe of March because a great number of the gentlemen of several surnames in the Marches of England and Wales are descended from him, namely, Thomas Most on of Most on, Esq. ; Arthur Trevor of Brynkinalt, Esq. ; Brymbo of Nant y Dol y Corslwyn : of Rhyd of Talacre of Kilken ; and Trevors of Plas Teg ; Dimocks of Willington ; Morris of Clogcaenog ; Trevors of Knyrick ; Trevors of Treflech, near Oswestry ; Trevors of Llan- gollen ; and many more. A full account with pedigrees will be found in ' A Display of Heraldry of the particular Coat Armours now in use in the Six Counties of North Wales and several elsewhere ; with the Names of Families whereby any man knowing from what Family he is descended may know his particular Arms. By John Reynolds of Oswestry, Antiquarian, Chester. Printed by Roger Adams for the Author, 1739.' LEONARD C. PRICE. Essex Lodge, Ewell. BURIAL-PLACES OP ECCLESIASTICS (12 S. ix. 211. 3. William Walsh, Sufm. Bishop of Dover, ob. Oct. 27, 1918 ; buried in the cemetery of St. Martin's Church, Canterbury. E. A. G. S. NOTTING BARN FARM (12 S. ix. 370). The Netting Farm of the 1863 map is un- doubtedly the same as the Notting Barn Farm of which your correspondent, has a crayon drawing. It is shown as Notting Barn Farm in the 1837 map of the Parish of Kensington reproduced in Lof tie's ' Ken- sington, Picturesque and Historical' (1888), and is commemorated by the Notting Barn tavern in Silchester Road, Notting Hill. FRED R. GALE. SHOCK AND PAIN (12 S. ix. 292). I I believe Sir Edward Bradford (1st bart., I 1836-1911), who was a friend and neigh - jbour of my mother's family in Hants, I always said that while being badly mauled by a tiger which necessitated the amputa- tion of an arm he felt but little pain, but I great discomfort from the pestiferous breath i of the carnivore in his face, which he could fire. Sir Edward's life, with a full account of the accident, is in 'D.N.B.,' I 2nd sup., pp. 210-11. UVEDALE LAMBERT. THE MACCABEES : THE SPARTANS AND ,THE JEWS (12 S. ix. 370). Whiston has a Areus is cited), as follows : These Lacedemonians, Grotius supposes, were i derived from the Dores, that came of the Pelasgi. i These are, by Herodotus, called Barbarians ; ! and perhaps were derived from the Syrians and [ It may be further observed that Eliezer, of Damascus, the servant of Abraham (Gen. xv. 2, xxiv.) was of old by some taken for his son. j So that if the Lacedemonians were sprung from him, they might [suppose] themselves to be of i the posterity of Abraham, as well as the Jews, i who were sprung from Isaac. Charles Anthon, in the course of his
 * defended with his raised arm till a friend
 * note on Josephus's ' Antiquities of the Jews,'
 * Bk. xii., c. iv., s. 10 (where the letter of
 * Arabians, the posterity of Abraham by Keturah.
 * additions to the article ' Lacedaemo ' in

Lempriere's ' Classical Dictionary,' says : Bryant supposes that the Lacedaemonians were
 * originally emigrants from the same country as

Abraham. Steph. B. [i.e., Stephanus Byzantinus] ! quotes Claudius lolaus as deriving the Jews from I an ancestor named Judaeus Sparto, or the family I styled Sparti. If this means a people, who were dispersed, pilgrims or emigrants, there is no doubt but the character belongs to the descendants of Abraham. Besides, a possibility exists that some of the early kinsmen of the Jewish patriarchs, instead of going east to settle, might establish themselves in the west. If Ishmael, for instance, had done so, his posterity would have been related to the sons of Isaac ; or, if Esau had done so, his decendants might have claimed relation- ship to the sons of Jacob. We have no history of such an occurrence, observes Dr. Wells, from whom the above is taken ; but if Esau or part of his family settled in Rome, as the Rabbins affirm, it is not improbable that some other branch of Abraham's posterity should settle in Greece. If there be any truth in the story above related, and on which Dr. Wells has rather too fancifully, and, we may add, loosely, commented, it may "perhaps consist in making the Pelasgi fan oriental people, and evidently a sacerdotal caste) the connecting link between the people of Lacedaemo and Judaea. Bryant is, presumably, Jacob Bryant (1715-1804); but who was Dr. Wells ? JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT. yeuiv '