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was published by Swift's friend Ben. Tooke. Its issue was announced in The Daily Courant of Oct. 19, 1708. Coleire died a year after Swift, in August, 1746. It is possible Swift may have first met him at Oxford. F. ELBINGTON BALL.

FECKENHAM FOREST RECORDS : PRINCE RUPERT'S RING : JOHN RUF : GERMAN CUSTOMS (12 S. vii. 310). (4) The passage of Sidonius is 'Carmen,' xii., addressed to Catullinus. The people described are the Burgundians. The words of the query only roughly represent Sidonius 's account. It is a taste for garlic and onions, not for cabbage, of which he complains. Neither does he speak of their shouting " Yah, Yah." With him they merely use " Germanica verba" and sing after dinner. Nor does he style them in a single phrase "greasy seven-foot giants," though in one line he calls them "gigantes," and in another tells us that they anoint their hair with rancid butter, while in a third place of the poem he remarks in a frigid conceit that his Muse declines to produce verses of six feet,

Ex quo septipedes videt patronos. It is but just to add as a corrective that

"This is the worst Sidonius has to say of the Burgundians. They were a jovial, kindly people, rather fond of good fare, unrefined in their h-abits, but anxious to be on good terms with the Romans, and even willing to give them material help against the attacks of the Goths, although occa- sionally, like more modern allies, they were not always to be trusted." Dill, 'Roman Society in the Last Century of the Western Empire,' p, 301.

Sir Samuel Dill mentions "the very favourable character of this people given by Orosius, vii. 32, 13" and "for the fairness with which they treated the Romans in their territory" refers his readers to the ' Lex Burgundionum. '

EDWARD BENSLY.

BEN JONSON'S 'TIMBER ' (12 S. vii. 311). ' Timber or Discoveries made upon Men and Matter ' appeared posthumously at the end of the second volume (1640) of the first collected edition of Jonson's works. The separate title of the ' Discoveries ' is dated 1641. See Prof. F. E. Schelling's Intro- duction, in his edition of the work, Boston, U.S.A., 1892. Of late years it has beer* recognised that Jonson's debts to previous writers in the * Discoveries ' are far greater than was supposed. See especially Mr. Percy Simpson's very interesting article irk. The Modern Language Review, April, 1907. EDWARD BENSLY.

years. I do not think that the other tune, that by which Louis XVI. was welcomed upon his visit to Paris subsequent to the Fall of the Bastille, could have been sung by Frenchmen to : " Ou pent un homme etre mieux que dans sa famille ? " " Ou peut- on etre mieux que dans le sein de sa famille ? " appears a version that satisfies idiom and metre. I shall be pleased if any reader can refer me to the source.

J. C. WHITEBROOK. 24 Old Square, Lincoln's Inn, W.C. 2.

ST. CUTLAYCE (12 S. vii. 289). I now feel sure that St. Guthlac was meant, for I have since found in the same MS. " alt are s'ce cuthl'e " under Nov. 18, 1353. The same clerk has, under Dec. 11, "s'ci Lucie. " He seems not to have known the sex of St. Guthlac, and to have been confused as to St. Lucy and St. Luke. The cult of St. Guthlac was extinct, hence the change in dedication of the altar from St. Guthlac to St. Anne, referred to in my former note.

J. T. F.

Winterton, Lines.

WESTMINSTER ABBEY : RESTORATIONS, PAST AND PROSPECTIVE (12 S. vii. 266). A strongly worded protest against "the proposed alterations in the arrangements of the choir at Westminster Abbey " appeared in The Ecclesiologist, published by the Cambridge Camden Society, vol. iii. 97-101 (May, 1844). W. B. H.

CRUSADERS FROM SUSSEX (12 S. vii. 312). The ' Sussex Archssological Collections, ' vol. ix. pp. 364, 365, gives a list of Sussex Crusaders taken from Dansey's ' Crusaders of England, ' which work it is stated contains a list of all the Crusaders of England, and is in the library at Surrenden Dering, a copy being in the Ashmolean Museum.

L. F. C. E. TOLLEMACHE.

24 Selwyn Road, Eastbourne.

SWIFT AT HAVISHAM (11 S. i. 8, 135, 295). May I be permitted to answer a query of my own sent ten years ago ? Havisham is a mis-reading of Harrietsham, the name of a parish in Kent, and the "Mr. Collier " of whom Swift was a guest, was the rector of Harrietsham at that time, the Rev. Richard Coleire. He had been a fellow of All Souls, and was afterwards for many years minister of Richmond, Surrey. Several sermons by him were printed, and are preserved in the British Museum. The first of these was delivered shortly before Swift's visit, and