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editorial note to the query suggested that it was connected with the old silver mace, which the marshal formerly carried on board a vessel he was ordered to arrest.

T. F. D.

CAMILLE. Can any reader suggest the cause of the popularity of this baptismal name for boys, in France, whilst its equiva- lent feminine form Camilla is not infrequent in England ? Whence Camille Desmoulins got his fore-name I do not know, but so far as my acquaintance with French memoirs goes, Camille was not a common name for boys until the nineteenth century. Since the Revolution it has been borne by many men who have reached distinction.

L. G. R.

BBOMELOW OF CHESHIRE. What is the origin of this family ? C. B. A.

FATHERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, 1901-1920. Can any one oblige by bringing up to date the list of " Fathers of the House of Commons," as given at 9 S. viii. and xii.

W. HAYLER.

SERVICE HERALDRY. (12 S. vii. 148.)

YOUR correspondent in his query on Service Heraldry appears to be alluding to an article which appeared in The Connoisseur of December, 1918, from the pen of Mr. W H Godfrey, F.S.A.

May I point out that so far as this magazine is concerned his statements are entirely in- correct. The article was published without any ulterior motive, and no advertisements whatever were accepted or published in connexion with it. R W- r -;TJ,-:J-< j^ - :i

The suggestion embodied in the article was that the artistic forms used in Heraldry might be used to embody in a beautiful form, a record. of the part a man took in and the honour he gained in the great war, and it was clearly pointed out in more than one place in the article that such emblems would have no armorial significance. f f }|^-#M3 ';

I believe the article has been copied in various newspapers with and without per- mission, and it is possible that it was one of

these, in which the limitations of Service^ Heraldry were not so clearly denned, to which your correspondent referred.

C. REGINALD GRUNDY.

[We are much indebted to the Editor of The Connoisseur for the above statement, since it will clear away any misconceptions which may have arisen in the mind either of our correspon- dent or of any of our readers. At the same time we feel constrained to express our regret that anything appearing in our columns should have given occasion for his making it.

We think the querist does in fact underrate the care with which Mr. Godley, in the .article referred to, has guarded against any confusion between the proposed "service heraldry" and heraldry' proper. Among other things, " an analogy " he says " will be drawn between the two, but it will- be from the artist's that is, the decorative point of view only, and if the similarities are em- phasised, it is with no intention of confusing them or attaching the one to the other." Again " the suggestion, I repeat, does not in any way infringe upon true heraldry, a study so delightful and instructive that it should be hedged about with every safeguard for preserving its historic value."

As to the enterprise itself we confess that we regard it less sternly than our correspondent seems to do, provided we would once more emphasize this the distinction from true heraldry is maintained. Perhaps the choice of the term " heraldry " was not a happy one. A deep interest in what our fathers invented and used, and the highest possible value for what they have trans- mitted to us need not, surely, be incompatible with the exercise of our own invention. Would not heraldry itself probably have struck a Claudius or a Brutus with disdainful surprise ?]

TAILLEAR DUBH NA TUAIGHE (12 S. vii. 150). There are scattered references to him in Highland story, and there is a short traditional account of him by the late Mrs. Mary MacKellar in The Celtic Magazine, vol. viii. p. 268 [A. & W. Mackenzie. Inver- ness, 1883]. He was Donald Cameron, sou of Ewen Cameron of Lochiel, chief of the clan, who died before 1554, by a handfasted marriage with a daughter of MacDougall of Lorn, and was nursed by a tailor's wife, whence his name of the Black Tailor. He had great skill with his tuaighe or battle- axe which he wielded with effect in his clan's feuds with the Mackintosh's. He became his clan's leader, and was so success- ful, and with apparently a charmed life, that he was suspected of a fairy origin. Jealousies however set in, and he retired to Cowal, and married and left a family. Mrs. MaeKellar says that at the present day, i.e., in 1883, one of his descendants is Dr. Taylor, Professor of Church History in the University of Edinburgh. J. L. ANDEBSON.

Edinburgh.