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ECONOMY IN PAPER, The present shortage of paper and its consequent expensiveness may perhaps be thought to lend a special interest to this passage from a letter written by Cicero to Atticus when on his way to take up his government of Cilicia (B.C. 51) Att. v. 4.

" Habes ad omnia. Etsi paene praeterii chartam tibi deesse : mea captio est, si quidem eius inopia minus multa ad me scribis. Tu vero aufer ducentos, etsi me am in eo parsimoniam huius paginae contractio significat, dum acta et rumores vel etiam, si qua certa habes de Caesare, exspecto."

PEREGRINUS.

" QUARRELLING WITH ONE'S BREAD AND BUTTER." In my 'American Glossary' I suggested that this might be a Jeffersonian coinage, as Jefferson used the phrase in 1820. But I find it forty years earlier in The Mirror (Edinburgh), No. 69, Jan. 4, 1780 : " How did she shew superior sense by thus quarrelling with her bread and butter?" Can a still earlier example be found ? RICHARD H. THORNTON.

Portland, Oregon.

djtterus.

We must request correspondents desiring in- formation on family matters of only private interest to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that answers may be sent to them direct.

JOHN CLARE'S ASYLUM POEMS. In the Highbeach and Northampton asylums, 1837- 1864, John Clare composed many poems. The majority, in MS., are not now available. I have recovered some hundreds.

Mr. W. F. Knight of Birmingham col- lected and preserved over 500. Can any reader of ' N. & Q. ' give me any information, as to the whereabouts of this collection, covering roughly the period 1842-1850 ? I shall be glad of any incidental references to Clare and his MSS.

EDMUND BLUNDEN.

ANSTIE : LE NEVE : ARDERNE. From Stanley Weyman's novel, ' The Great House,' chap. vii. :

" In this room, and from the elder man, Basset had learned to trace a genealogy, to read a coat, to know a bar from a bend, to discourse of badges and collars under the guidance of the learned Anstie or the ingenious Le Neve."

When did these two heralds live and what works did they write. Le Neve, I believe, held the office of Norroy, but I don't know his dates. J

Also, where can I find the papers of Arderne (the Black Prince's surgeon) relating to the origin of the Prince of Wales's Feathers, which are mentioned in chap. ix. of the same novel. NOLA.

Baluchistan.

.[William Le Neve (1600?-166l), Mowbray herald extraordinary, )622; York herald, 1625; Norroy, 1633 ; Clarenceux, 1635.1

DE GOURGUES. I should be grateful for any information regarding the early history of the house of De Gourgues, a Basque family from the Landes district ; also regarding the arms borne by them. The best known member of the house is Domin- ique de Gourgues (1530-1593), the celebrated sailor and adventurer. Louise Marie de Gourgues by her marriage with Louis Fran9ois de Saint -Simon, Marquis de Sandri- court, was the grandmother of Claude Henri Comte de Saint-Simon, the philosopher and sectarian RORY FLETCHER.

HODGSON FAMILY. I should be grateful if any one could tell me who were the parents of James Hodgson of Yorkshire, born about 1693, and also the parents of his wife Ann. They were living in Yorkshire about 1745 and had issue : Hannah, born 1746 ; Christopher, 1748 ; James, 1750 ; George, 1753 ; John, 1756. Went later to live in Kent. B. L. RICHARDSON.

" BOSH "= VIOLIN. Among men in the humbler walks of life, the word "bosh" appears to be used humorously when referring to the violin.

Will any reader kindly give me some in- formation of any work in which I could find a reference ?

I understand from an old acquaintance that he frequently heard his grandfather (born more than a century ago) use it.

S. MAYNE.

[Bosh or b"ash is Romany for " music " or the "violin." In Barrere and Leland's 'Dictionary of Slang, Jargon and Cant,' " O can you kill the bosh ? " is said to mean " O can you play the fiddle ? "]

'KINO-EROFFNUNGSFEIER.' In a book of views, of German origin, relating to the Great War, there are two entitled ' Kino- Eroffnungsf eier. ' They depict what appears to be a procession of German peasant folk arrayed in gala costume, and headed by a band, passing through a village. W T hat is the meaning of the title ? The meanings of "Kino" and " Erofmungsfeier " taken separately, of course, present no difficulty,