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so wrote their name ? Surely, Miners is preferable.

With regard to Henry's charter addressed to Bishop Sampson of Worcester, quoted from the same cartulary (i. 235), there is another important variety of this, too, in the Cam- bridge MS. Instead of ending with the clause " et concedo eis escambium de horto monachorum in quo turris mea sedet, sicut Walterus Vicecomes de Gloucestria eis liboravit," it has " teste Girmundo abbate W 7 inchelcumbce et Rogerio de Gloecestra et Hugone Parvo."

Now this important change, I hold, at once affects the date of this charter like- wise ; for here we have Roger (doubtless dying) signing his gift near Falaise ( 1 1 06) in the presence of two important witnesses : the Abbot of Winchcombe (1095-1122), and Hugh Little, one of his superior Norman tenants in Gloucestershire about whom I could say more.

Further, the MS. cited gives the following interesting passage :

" Is, in obsidione Fallesii telo arcubalistee grayiter vulneratus in capite, donavit ecclcsise S. Petri de Gloecestra manerium quod appellatur Culna S. Andrew,* et in hoc assensum et con- cessionem Regis, qui etatim ad ee videndum venerat, impetravit, ita quod manum ipsius cum earn hujus rei gratia deoscularetur, frontis anguine cruentavit."

These authorities were duly cited by Bishop Stubbs in his notes to William of Malmes- bury's ' Gesta Regum Anglorum,' ii. 521-2 (Rolls Series). I could adduce others still, but for respect to the space of ' N. & Q.'

This, therefore, places the King's charter to the Bishop of Worcester in the year 1106 and ( ? ) the month of September. What, then, are we to make of the statement in the ' Gloucester Cartulary,' i. 69, that the grant was made while the abbacy was vacant at Serlo's death (i.e., 1104) ? The latter is clearly a monkish mistake.

I shall now produce the " Confirmatio " by the King of Roger's gift of the manor of Coin with its highly important array of witnesses by which I venture to date it 1106-7, probably at Gloucester :

Henricup, dux Anglie, Sampsoni episcopo Wigorniensi et Waltero Vicecomiti de Glocestra, &c., salutem.

Notum sit vobis quod dedi et concessi manerium de Culna ecclesiae S. Petri de Glocestra ad communem victum monachorum sicut Bogerius de Glocestra eis dedit et concessit et sicut melius tenuit pro anima mea et uxoris mese et pro animabus antecessorum meorum et concedo is escambium orti monachorum in quo turris


 * Called Coin Rogers to-day.

mea sedet sicut Walterus Vicecomes de Glocestra eis liberavit.

Signum Be + gis.

Matildis Regine +

Wald(rici) Cancellar' + (made Bishop of Laon, Nov. 1106, killed Ap. 25, 1112).

Episcopi Dunelmensis+(t.e., B. Flam- bard).

,, Boberti Episcopi Lincol'4- Bicardi de Beveis-f (i.e., B. de Beviefis,

ancestor of the Courtneys). Da+vid. Boberti Comitis de Mellent-f

Mr. Round has shown (' Feudal England,' 481) that the last known appearance of Waldric the Chancellor occurs in a Rouen charter of November, 1106. The above, unfortunately, is not from the original deed itself. It is sufficient, however, to bring Roger's decease and the King's "Con- firmatio " very close together.

Roger de Gloucester was brother to Herbert (who predeceased him), and cousin to Walter the Sheriff. His transactions in- clude one with Serlo (d. 1104), the Abbot of St. Peter's (Glos.), by which he took over certain land in Westbury-on-Severn in fee (but without tithe of water or woodland) from the monks, and gave in exchange (in alms) Sandhurst and Atteley (i.e., Hatherley), and land belonging to Ulfketil.

With the claim of De Miners, with the Editor's leave, I will deal under a fresh heading. ST. CLAIB BADDELEY.

The full text of the notification ( * Glouces- ter Cartulary,' Rolls Ser., No. CXLII.), printed by MB. SWYNNERTON at iv. 280, shows, I think, that he has misunderstood this docu- ment. The Cartulary heading " Culna Rogerii " is misleading, as it applies only to the first part ; the second part, begin- ning " et concedo," is the confirmation of a different transaction. Thus the King con- firms :

1. The grant of Coin by Roger de Glou- cester.

2. The grant (of land unspecified) by Walter de Gloucester in exchange for the monks' garden in which the King's tower stands.

Escambium does not refer to Culna, and the clause " sicut Walterus viceconies de Gloucestria eis liberavit " refers not to horto, but to escambium, the wording implying that Walter made the exchange as sheriff, not from his own property.

This conclusion sent me to the ' Gloucester Cartulary ' to discover what it was that the monks received in exchange for their garden.