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promise to drink the rivers also. Stop up al the rivers, and I will begin to drink." Naturally the bet was " off."

J. FOSTEB PALMER. 3 Royal Avenue, S.W.3.

(d) The fable alluded to is, apparently, that of the bullock-driver and Hercules, No. 81 in Halm's ' Fabulae ^Esopicae Collectse.' J. R. Lowell has an amusing application of the story in his essay on Carlyle (' My Study Windows ').

EDWARD BENSLY.

(e) " What the Governor of South Carolina said to the Governor of North Carolina." I .cannot give the " chapter and verse " of this story, but for many years in this country the legend has run that the Governor of North Carolina said to the Governor of South Carolina that it was a long time between drinks. Or the Governor of South Carolina may have made the remark to the other Governor.

In the spring of 1876 I was on the same railway train with Governor Wade Hampton, of South Carolina, who was on his way to Washington to ask the Federal Government to remove United States troops from the State House of South Carolina. At nearly every railway station en route he was called upon for a speech by the citizens of the place, ivho had gathered to greet him. My remem- brance is that he did not fail in each speech in North Carolina to allude to the above- mentioned gubernatorial remark.

CHABI.ES E. STRATTON. 70 State Street, Boston, Mass.

SIR DAVID MURRAY AND THE '45 (12 S. iii. 506). This query has only just come under my notice, while home on short leave from the B.E.F. EXILED will probably find ther information regarding Sir David lurray, 4th Baronet of Stanhope, in G. E.C.'s 'Complete Baronetage' (1903, vol. iii. pp. 342-5), and in an article by Sir James Balfour Paul on ' The Murray s of Romano, Broughton, and Stanhope ' in The Genea- logist, new series, vol. xv. If these references do not afford what EXILED desires, I shall be pleased to put him in touch with other possible sources of information, if he will communicate with me.

Can EXILED or any other reader of ' N. & Q.' add to what the above-mentioned authorities state regarding the 9th baronet, Sir Robert Murray (1745-93), who married circa 1780, probably at Chester, a sister (not daughter) of Vice-Admiral Francis Pickmore, afterwards Governor of Newfoundland ?

Sir Robert, who died at Keynsham, near Bristol, is 1 described by G. E. C. as " of Darland, co. Chester." But Darland is over the Welsh boundary in co. Denbigh, 3 miles N.W. by N. of Holt. His widow, the Dowager Lady Murray (previously Elizabeth or Betty Pickmore, of Chester), was alive in 1834, and residing with her eldest daughter, a Mrs. Coppinger. I want particulars of Sir Robert's marriage and period of residence at Darland. He succeeded to the baronetcy (subject to the attainder of 1745) June 23, 1791.

Whom did Admiral Pickmore marry, and where ? He was born at Chester in 1757 r married circa 1785, and was a widower when he became Governor of Newfoundland in 1816. His sons died unmarried ; his only daughter, Frances Emma, married Capt. Fredk. Hunn, R.N., half-brother of George Canning.

FRED. R. GALE, Lieut. A.O.D.

103 Abingdon Road, Kensington, -W.8.

PUBLIC-HOUSES CONNECTED WITH THE WAR (12 S. iv. 46, 88). There is the old inn called the King of Bohemia in High Street, Hampstead, which is of quite historic interest. It curiously preserves on its sign a record of one who assumed the title of Frederick V., the Elector Palatine, 1619. There is an exhaustive article by the late Prof. J. W. Hales in ' The Hampstead Annual ' for 1899 upon this inn and the name it perpetuates. CECIL CLARKE.

Junior Athenaeum Club.

SHIELD IN WINCHESTER STAINED GLASS (12 S. iv. 188). Gules, a fesse fusilly, otherwise four fusils conjoined in fesse,, argent, are the arms of Daubeney, and the shield to which MR. LE COUTEUR refers, being within a Garter, probably stands for Sir Giles Daubeney, who supported Henry VII. 's claim to the throne, and was created Baron Daubeney in 1486, and a Knight of the Garter in or shortly before 1487. For Sir Giles's career see the

Complete Peerage,' vol. iv. (1916), pp. 102-5, and the ' D.N.B.,' xiv. 90. At the beginning of Henry VII. 's reign he had a special connexion with Winchester ; for the Act of Resumption which was passed by Parliament in 1 Hen. VII. mentions, among various offices which Sir Giles Daubeney then held and his right to which were not to be prejudiced by that Act, the office of " con- stable of the castell of Winchestre in the

ountie of Southampton." See ' Rotuli Parliamentorum,' vi. 354. His tenure of