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NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 B. iv. JUNK, ioi&

ST. PIERRE LAKE, BERNE (12 S. iv. 132). 'There is a curious want of agreement in the accounts of the place selected by Lord Camelford for his grave. " Somewhere -about Geneva," writes Lamb in his essay on ' Distant Correspondents,' when describ- ing " a conceit of the late Lord C." But Lamb did not always speak by the card. Canon Ainger, in a note based on ' The Annual Register ' for 1804, quotes as Lord Camelford' s description : " It is situated on the borders of the lake of St. Lampierre, in the Canton of Berne, and three trees fitand in the particular spot." The centre tree was to be taken up, his body to be deposited there, and the tree replaced. " At the foot of this tree, his lordship added, he had formerly passed many solitary hours, contemplating the mutability of human affairs." Canon Ainger does not pursue the subject further, and offers no suggestion as to " the lake of St. Lampierre."

Lamb uses the words " when, by a positive testamentary disposal, his remains were actually carried all that way from England "; but, from Sir J. K. Laughton's life of the second Lord Camelford in the ' D.N.B.,' it appears that the intention was never realized : " The body was embalmed and packed in a large basket, but the course of the war prevented its being taken abroad, .and it was left for many years in the crypt of St. Anne's Church, Soho." It was probably, he says, thrust into some vault, and eventually lost sight of. Whether Mr. E. V. Lucas in his edition of Lamb gives a more precise indication of the chosen site I cannot say. An examination of Lord Camelford' s will, if the directions are given there, ought to show by what name he at any rate described it.

EDWARD BENSLY.

In the great ' Dictionnaire Geographique de la Suisse ' (Neuchatel, vol. iv., 1906) no lake of St. Pierre is mentioned as existing in the whole of Switzerland ; but there is a full account of the island of that name (no longer an island since 1870-75), famous for the residence there of J. J. Rousseau for two months in 1765, and so later a pil- -grimage spot. W. A. B. C.

[Mn. J. B. WAINBWRIQHT also thanked for reply.]

A PENN ARMORIAL RELIC (12 S. iv. 93). The pedigree of Penne or Penn has been -discussed before in ' N. & Q.' Clarkson made a plain statement that the Brinkworth family was an offshoot of the family of Penne or Penn in the county of Bucks ; but

he added no proof of his assertion. Coleman was more careful, and, in the absence of proof, said nothing about it. A. V. follows Clarkson, and reasserts the relationship, but without citing any proof. I am prompted to ask if anything further has been recently discovered to establish it without doubt. Some years ago I ex- amined the wills of the family at Somerset House, and failed to discover it. William Penne of Minety, who died in 1591/2, described himself in his will as yeoman.

FRANK PENNY.

A. 'V. in his valuable article states that he has been unable to meet with any ar- morial bearings for the Jasper family. He has apparently overlooked the two coats given under that name in Burke' s ' General Armory.'

S. D. CLIPPINGDALE.

WILLIAM BLAORAVE (12 S. iii. 334; iv. 60). At the latter reference MR. E. A. FRY refers to " British Museum Lans- downe MS. 981, fo. 35d," the biographical notice in which runs as follows :

" Account of William Blagrave, Jesuit, hanged at York, May 10, 1660. See the Relation given by Mr. Strype in his ' Annals of Elizabeth, ' p. 221, of William Blagrave, Jesuit, sent over by Pope Pius V. before the divisions in England ; he was found w th several treasonable Papers in his closet, condemned and hanged at York, May 10, 1666, so hardened that when he went up the ladder he laughed in the A. Bp. of York's face, telling him that those converts that he had drawn unto him would hate the churches Liturgy as much as his Grace did Rome," &c.

It is to be noted that the writer does not correct Strype in any particular. Strype, however (' Annals,' I. i. 342 ; Parker, i. 141), calls Blagrave a Dominican, not a Jesuit.

In point of fact there was no such person, and Strype was misled by the forgeries of Robert Ware, as to which see the Biblio- graphical Society's News-sheet for Jan., 1918, and ' Blunders and Forgeries,' by the late Rev. T. E. Bridgett, C.SS.R. (London, 1890), at pp. 209-96i See especially pp. 262-3.

I may add that no recent researches by Jesuits or Dominicans have shown the existence of any of the persons mentioned by Strype, and in particular it may be regarded as quite certain that there was no Jesuit or Dominican named William Bal- grave or Blagrave at this period.

JOHN B. WAINEWRIQHT.

[We have forwarded the extract from Father Bridgett's book to MB. PBY.]