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at Dulwich College. It would be interesting to know whether the actor and the Sheriff were one and the same person, and how, if that was so, the fact of his having held that office corner to have been omitted by his biographers. Perhaps somebody would kindly explain this and put it beyond doubt whether the above-mentioned Mr. Sheriff Edward Allen really was the actor or not. ALAN STEWART.

LEGENDS ON " LOVE TOKENS." 1. Is it possible to complete the following legend, 'which appears on an " engraved coin " or '" love token " of 1778 ? " My Love shee . . . ." [unfinished]. There is nothing to help it in the type, which merely represents a man and a woman holding hands, the latter handing the former a goblet.

2. On many of these pieces occur variants of a legend beginning : " When this you see, remember me." Are these opening words taken from any known source ? Examples :

(a) " When this you see, remember me, Though many miles we distant be." (1798.)

(6) " When this you see, remember me, when

I am dead and rotten. Take up this heart and

think of me, when I am quite forgotten." (With

the type of a heart inscribed with initials. 1840.)

(c) " When this you see, remember me, and keep me in youi mind. Let all the world say what they will, speak of me as you find." (18th century.)

The opening words were probably used on valentines and on posy rings, but I have not met with an instance of the latter.

F. P. B.

WILLIAM TURNER'S COMMONPLACE BOOK' In an undated catalogue of books for sale by Thomas Kerslake of Bristol belonging, I Relieve, to 1856, Lot 4877 is the Common- place Book of William Turner, Dean of Wells, " Father of English Botany," who died in 15. It is described as a thick quarto in old stamped calf, with green edges, and a long account of its contents is given, from which it is obviously of supreme mterest to the biographer. Can any reader say anything as to its present whereabouts ?' G. S. BOULGER.

12 Lancaster Park, Richmond, Surrey.

PIGEON-EATING WAGERS. In ' La Tulipe Noire,' by Dumas, Gryphus the gaoler says to Cornelius :

" Un homme si robuste qu'il soit no saurait manger un pigeon tons los jours. II y a eu des paris de laits, ot los parlours ont renonce."

I remember reading in the paper some years ago of a man who was eating a pigeon every day for a wager, and wondering at the time

what was the great difficulty in performing this gastronomic feat. No one has been able to tell me. Can any reader of ' N. & Q.' give me details of such wagers ? On how many consecutive days did a pigeon have to be eaten, and was the wager ever won ? G. A. ANDERSON.

ARDISS FAMILY. Information would be welcomed on old branches of the Ardiss family. Please reply direct to Mr. R. W. Walsh, 3 Grove Gardens, Spring Grove, Isleworth, London, S.W.

WILLIAM MAC ARTHUR.

Dublin.

FRANCIS TIMBRELL. Who was Francis Timbrell, author of an engraved oblong book, ' The Divine Musick Scholars Guide,' circa 1715-23 ? The British Museum has a copy. It is mentioned in S. S. Stratton's ' Musical Biography ' (1897), but not a word about the author. One plate is signed " M. D. Derby," but the name Timbrell is not a Derbyshire name. I have references to it in Gloucestershire. A. H. MANN.

FRANCOIS, Due DE GUISE. Was the Due de Guise wounded (aged 26) at the siege of Boulogne in 1545, as many state ; or, as Balzac states, at the siege of Calais in 1558 ?

N. C. D.

" TEREBUS Y TEREODIN." In the Border songs sung at Hawick the refrain of one specially used in June is :

Terebus y Tereodin,

Sons of heroes slain at Flodden, &c. The mysterious words are locally believed to be very much older than the rest, possibly Norse, having reference to Thor and Odin ; but an expert says they are absolutely unlike any personal names known to him ; they could have nothing to do, he thinks, with Thor and Woden, though the latter has a faint resemblance to the genitive of these names. Can any correspondent throw light on them ? ALFRED WELBY.

[See 6 S. ii. 446, 495 ; iii. 58.]

WINTON FAMILY. I made some reply, in your issue of Nov. 18 (ante, p. 416), to an inquiry by S. T. (ante, p. 266), but I omitted to mention that the descendants of Capt. James Winton believe that his grandfather (i.e., the father of Philip Winton, who was born in Herefordshire about 1750) was named Seton, and changed his name to Winton for political reasons. Or, perhaps, he may have married one of the Hereford- shire Wintons, and his son Philip may have taken his mother's maiden name.