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12 s. i. MAY 20, 1916.] NOTES AND QUERIES.

417 whether the Sheldons were responsible for these services, or whether it was some subsequent owner of the Hall. It is possible that the Beoley monuments might throw some light on the pedigree.

According to Burke's 'Landed Gentry,' 1846, Ralph Sheldon, who married the heiress of the Rudings, had seven sons, of whom William, the eldest, d.s.p., and was succeeded by Ralph, the sixth son, who married Philippa Heath. The Visitation pedigree as well as the Plowden pedigree state that William did not die s.p., but had a daughter Katharine, who married Edmund Plowden (1517-84), the great lawyer, who was buried in the Temple Church.

Beoley Church is well worth a visit for the sake of the Sheldon monuments and the stone altar, but except for these the church is of little interest. It would doubtless be better known were it more accessible, but there is a railway station at no great distance, the name of which I forget.

ERZERUM (12 S. i. 287). I take the following from Canon Taylor's ' Names and their Histories,' which seems to supply all the necessary data in regard to the derivation of this place-name :

" When the neighbouring town of Arzek was taken by the Seljuk Turks in 1043 the inhabitants fled to the fortress of Carana, which acquired the name of Arzek-el-Rum, ' Roman Arzek ' (after- wards Erzerum), to distinguish it from the old Arzek, which became a Turkish city. The district round Erzerum was the last fragment of the Eastern Empire which held out against the Turks, ,nd hence it acquired the Turkish name Arzi-rum, meaning the ' lands of the Romans,' from aruzai, ' lands,' the plural of arz, an Arabic loan- word which means ' land.' The names of the town and the pashalik were naturally assimi- lated."

Thus the latest Russian conquest gains an added significance in the eyes of those acquainted with its past history.

N. W. HILL.

POISONED ROBES (12 S. i. 267). Perhaps the following may be of use to EMERITUS :

" From the testimony of the Learnedst and most Credible Authpurs extant ; We see there are divers Poysons which may externally hurt us ; As, by the poysoning of Darts, Swords, and other Instruments of War, the Bodyes of Men may be not only Infected, but wholly destroyed. Nay, and as Ardoynus Lib. 1. De Venenis, Cap. 8. <Guaynerius Cap. 22. De Venenis, Pouzettus Lib. 7. Cap. 2. And others abundantly manifest, even Cloathes and other necessaries, have been in- fected ; and by shaking hands with their Enemies, some have found out a way to poyson them by certain Unguents, Oyles, and the like, And so to

Infect their Spurrs, Stirrops, Bootes, Saddles, as that they shall thereby be Destroyed. But these are mee^ely Fansies, and no wise agreeable to reason that any should have to do with such virulent Poyson, and not to be infected them- selves Or, that Poyson should penetrate

through other Vestments to the Skin, as Scaliger attests Exercit. 186. One to be poysoned by treading on a Spider affirming the yenem of that Creature penetrated the sole of his shooe, and so getting to the Heart suffocated him. I say, these and the like Storyes are meerely Fabulous, not to be Credited, and rather to be attributed to the Subtilty, Craft, and Malice of the Devill, and his Imps, Witches, Conjurers, and the like, who by Gods permission are indeed suffered to use and practise many such Feats upon the Bodyes of Men, mentioned by Nicol. Florentinus, Sum. 4. Tract. 4. Cap. 5. Guaynerius, Cap. 1. et 2. De Venenis, Grevinus, Lib. 1. De Venenis, Cap. 1. Mathiolus in Prcefat. in 6. Dioscori, &c. But that such Mischiefs are to be done by natural means, is not to be Credited." William Ramesey, ' Of Poysons ' (1660), pp. 14, 15. C C B

BRIANUS DE REDE (12 S. i. 329). W. D. R. may like to know of Robert Rede, parson of the church of Broghton Asteley ( ? Brough- ton-Gifford) in 1380 (Assize Roll No. 1492, 4 Ric. II., Wilts, m 19 d).

There was also a family of Rede at Salis- bury in earlier times (vide Chancy. Inq. p.m. Edw. III., File 5, No. 2, new reference). Richard [?] le Rede (juryman), was of Cholderton later (vide ' Feet of Fines for Wilts').

In 1565 Thomas Reade of " Lurgarsale," co. Bucks, conveyed the manor of Mayden Winterbourne Shrewton (May 20) to Henry Brouncker of Melksham.

If your inquirer thinks there is a clue here, he may care to correspond with me direct. JOHN WATSON TAYLOR.

Artillery Mansions, Victoria Street, S.W.

FOLK-LORE : CHIME-HOURS (12 S. i. 329). I should say that three, six, nine, and twelve were so called, inasmuch as they were the hours when airs were played on chiming clocks in various parts of the country. Some towns still maintain these gracious monitors, but most places emulate the timing sounds of Westminster. " Chime- hours " hardly belong to folk-lore.

ST. SWITHIN.

MOSES GRIFFITH, COPPERPLATE ENGRAVER (12 S. i. 287). Moses Griffith, topographical draughtsman, was born in Carmarthenshire, April 6, 1749, and became the servant of Pennant, the antiquary. Travelling with his master, he picked up some knowledge of drawing, improved by study in the school of the Artists' Society in 1771, and was ulti- mately employed by Pennant, first as