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NOTES AND QUERIES. [12 s. i. APRIL is, 1916.

THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS AND THE 20TH REGIMENT (12 S. i. 248). Is not S. mistaking the 25th (The King's Own Borderers) for the 20th (The Lancashire Fusiliers, formerly The East Devonshire Regiment) ? Both regiments have " Min- den " among the honours on their colours. One of the sobriquets of the 20th was, and I suppose still is, " The Minden Boys " ; Another, "Kingsley's Stand."

" The last honourable title was given to the regiment in consideration of its conspicuous bravery at Minden, August 1st, 1759, where it repulsed every charge of the enemy. It formed part of the brigade commanded on that occasion by General Kingsley. On this occasion the regiment was posted near some gardens, from which the men took roses to adorn their hats during the battle. Ever since, the regimental custom of wearing 4 Minden Roses ' in the caps on the anniversary of that day has been maintained." 'Nicknames & Traditions in the Army,' 3rd edition, published by Gale & Polden, Chatham, 1891. See also ' The Regimental Records of the British Army,' by John S. Farmer, 1901, in which is :

" Bibliography. ' Historical Record of The 20th, or East Devonshire Regiment,' 1688-1848. Illus- trated. [London : Parker. 1848. J

"'Orders, Memoirs, &c., connected with The 20th Regiment.' By Lieut. F. W. Barlow, 2nd Batt. 20th Regiment. [Minden Press. 1868.]

"'History of the 20th Regiment' 1688-1888. By Lieutenant and Quartermaster B. Smyth, 1st Lancashire. Fusiliers. [London : Simpkin, Marshall &Co. 1889.]"

In the same book the bibliography of The King's Own Scottish Borderers refers to Old Edinburgh Regiment,' by Capt. R. T. Higgins (London, Chapman & Hall, 1873).
 * Records of The King's Own Borderers, or

With regard to " Kingsley's Stand," I may .add that in 1756, three years before Minden, General William Kingsley had been ap- pointed Colonel of the 20th, so that he had nis own regiment in his brigade.

ROBERT PIERPOINT.

A REGIMENTAL LOVING-CUP : 14TH HUS- SARS (12 S. i. 229). This "bowl" has very little association with Napoleon ; it belonged to his brother Joseph Bonaparte, and is called by the officers of the 14th its possessors, "The Emperor."

It was taken from Joseph's carriage, which he had left in his flight from Vittoria June 21, 1813. Whether it was taken in the first instance by the 13th or the 14th Light Dragoons is not clear.

If MR. BULLOCH will refer to 10 S. vii 313, 357, 393, 434, he will find much con- cerning the silver " article " about which he inquires.

At the first and third references I men- tioned Capt. Doherty as commanding the squadron of the 13th which pursued King Joseph's carriages, and quoted a letter from Col. Brookfield, who was in the regiment over bhirty years ago, to the effect, inter alia, that "Doherty was a regular 13th name for two generations."

In the Army List of 1811 the name occurs three times in the regiment : viz., Major Patrick, Capt. Joseph, and Lieut. George Doherty. The first had the rank of lieutenant-colonel in the army.

The three officers appear in the List of 1816, Patrick having been commissioned lieutenant-colonel June 4, 1813, and colonel (rank in the army) June 4, 1814. He had also been appointed a Companion of the Bath, and been awarded a medal with one clasp for the battles of Vittoria and Orthes.

If the 'Historical Records of the 13th,' quoted at the last reference, are correct in saying that the squadron sent in pursuit of the carriages was led by Capt. Doherty, this officer must have been Joseph Doherty, whose commission as captain was dated March 19, 1807. ROBERT PIERPOINT.

[MR. ARCHIBALD SPARKE thanked for reply,]

SHAKESPEARE AND PATRIOTISM (12 S. i. 184). In his article under this head MR. GORDON CROSSE says that nowhere, except possibly in ' Love's Labour's Lost,' does Shakespeare mention the conflict which culminated in the defeat of the Armada. I should like to know whether anybody but the late Samuel Butler has ever seriously held that the Armada was the occasion of Sonnet CVII. :

Not mine own fears, nor the prophetic soul Of the wide world dreaming on things to come. Butler's defence of this theory occurs in his ' Shakespeare's Sonnets Reconsidered,' and it is very plausibly argued. Certainly he makes his suggestion appear much more likely than the commonly held opinion that the sonnet refers to the death of Queen Elizabeth. It is largely upon this sonnet that Butler bases his theory of the early origin of the series, though he argues this larger question also very plausibly on other grounds. His "reconsideration" does not seem to have been taken very seriously by Shakespearian scholars (a fact for which he is, no doubt, partly himself to blame), but his book is one of the most interesting and stimulative that I know on the subject, and his views are at least as worthy of considera- tion as those of some writers who have secured a wider attention. C. C. B.