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monument) ; and at his death lie was de scribed as " citizen and alderman of London." His heir was a son Michael, aged 17 in 1540 (see Chanc. Inq. p.m., Series II., Ixxxiii., No. 154). There seems no record of the younger Michael's career. The father's will is at Somerset House (F. 24 Dyngelay), and gives further particulars. It is dated 1 July, 1527, at which time he was~citizen and mercer of London and merchant of the Staple at Calais. He had had an earlier wife named Margaret ; his then wife was daughter of James Wilford, and had brothers Thomas and John (see Essex Visitations, Harl. Soc.). His children were James, John, Robert, Michael, Benjamin, Cecily, Mary, Katherine, Anne, and Elizabeth, all under age, and one of them (apparently the last-named) was wife of Henry Suckley. He had a sister Joan, a nun at Nuneaton. Arthur Fygge was a kinsman. He left bequests to the high altar of St. Dionis Backchurch, and other charitable gifts, in particular to the churches of Stanmer and Mitcham. His wife, the executor named, proved the will on 30 Jan., 1538/9. From the inquisition it is clear that the three elder sons had died before 1540 ; Benjamin English married Elizabeth, daughter of John Brown of London, as appears by the London Visitation of 1568 (Harl. Soc.).

One Nicholas English of Burton Grange, in Prestwold, Leicestershire, merchant of the Staple, made his will on 20 Sept., 1577, naming Annys his wife, Nathaniel and Katherine his children, and Elizabeth Bain- brigg his sister ; the will was proved 6 Sept., 1581 (P.C.C., 32Darcy).

John, son of John English of Bedford, was aged 41 in 1595 (Genealogist New Series, xv. 260). J. B.

SIB JOHN TBEGONWELL'S SECOND WIFE : GEORGE MABTEN, GEORGE MARTYNE, AND JAMES MARTEN, WINCHESTER SCHOLARS (US. vi. 347). Messrs. Sidney Heath and W. de C. Prideaux in their ' Some Dorset Manor Houses ' (1907), p. 202, figure Sir John Tregonwell's brass in Milton Abbey Church (1565). They say :

"On sinister shield appears : Tregonwell, im- paling, per saltire gules and or, 4 chaplets counter- changed. New, of Newbarnes, Herts. Hutchins, in error, states that Sir John married Elizabeth Bruce as his second wife."

And in a note they add :

" Newce als. Newes, co. Oxford, easily mistaken for Bruce, per saltire or and gules, 4 chaplets counterchanged, G. M. S. Pap worth, p. 1125, New, Isews, co. Oxford."

Hutchins (or his editors), when discussing this same brass (iv. 402), has given the name and coat correctly ; but, unfortunately, has omitted to eliminate the original error from the pedigree (i. 161), which is not impeccable in other directions.

Thomas Tregonwell married Ann, dau. of Robert Martyn of Athelhampton Hall, Dorset, and Elizabeth, dau. of Sir John Kelway or Keloway of Rockbourne, Hants. Her brother Nicholas Martyn married Margaret, second dau. of John Wadham of Merrifield, Somerset, and sister of the founder of Wadham College. A brass to Nicholas and Margaret Martyn and their ten children is in the church of Piddletown St. Mary's.

Sir John Tregonwell's first wife was a Kellaway. . A. R. BAYLEY.

GERMAN PROVERB: " GUT VERI.OBEN," &c. (US. vi. 188, 391). It may interest MR. FOBBES SIEVEKING to hear of a very early Scotch form of the " Gut verloren " proverb :

+ TYXE -f- GEIR + TYNE + LITTL . + TYNE HONOVR TYNE MVCKIL TYNE + HART + TYNE AL,

which, being interpreted into English, is : " Lose goods, lose little ; lose honour, lose much ; lose heart, lose all." The above lines are engraved upon the silver-gilt foot of an ancient maplewood mazer bowl. The silver mounting of the bowl consists of a foot and stem, a deep rim with conventional foliage, and a frounce within the bowl engraved with a coat of arms and initials. The mounting may be ascribed to the later Henry VIII. period, and is probably the work of an Aberdeen goldsmith.

H. D. ELLIS. 7, Roland Gardens, S.W.

WEIGHTS AND COINAGE, 1338 (11 S. vi. 388). The weights of the precious treasures were of Tower standard, stated (as was the custom for gold, silver, spices, and bread) in pounds, shillings, and pence = dwt. The pound, weight or value, was the Tower pound of silver, either of 12 oz. each equal to 450 grains, or of 20 shillings each equal to 270 grains. The weight and value of the two chalices and patens, and of the coffret (scrinium, O.F. escrin), were therefore :

1. 37s. llrf.= 22'2 oz. Tower; value 22 ].">>.

2. 90s. ld.= 54'4 oz. 5i !*.

3. 409s. Id. =268 oz. 200 The chalices and patens, being pure gold, were probably of the same fineness as Edward III.'s nobles, not less than 231 ct. ; and gold of that fineness being now worth 2'ld. a grain, each shilling-weight would