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NOTES AND QUERIES

Romam qualis est hodie. It is prefixed to what Browne calls his " paraphrase," though he was evidently acquainted with the original. See Mr. Gordon Goodwin's edition of the ' Poems of William Browne of Tavi- stock ' in " The Muses' Library " (George Routledge & Sons), vol. ii. pp. 300-1, and note, p. 351. Mr. A. H. Bullen's ' Intro- duction ' is dated 1893, so I conclude that the edition appeared about that time that is, some eighteen years ago. It is a great pity that some publishers still persist in omitting the year on the front pages of their reprints. JOHN T. CURRY.

May I add to the reference ' The Ruines of Rome,' by Bellay, and f Bellaye's Visions,' published in 1591, in a volume entitled ' Complaints : containing sundrie small Poemes of the World's Vanitie ' ? These are by the author of ' The Faerie Queene,' whose translation of Bellay should be com- pared with the later version by Browne. The ' Complaints ' are included in the collected works of Edmund Spenser, and his translation? may be found in the Globe edition, pp. 526 and 538.

R. OLIVER HESLOP.

Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

PENCE AS A PLACE-NAME (US. iv. 330, 437, 497 ; v. 18). The twelfth - century lawsuit mentioned by MR. AXSCOMBE does not seem to be the same as the one referred to by MR. DAVIES as occurring in one of the Selderi Society's volumes, which is of the early thirteenth century. The reference is to ' Select Pleas of the Crown,' edited by F. W. Maitland, vol. i. p. 48. The case is numbered 90, and comes among the pleas of Easter term, A.D. 1203 :

" Richard of Flitch, the servant of William de Guines at Beck, appeals Almaric of Bore, for that he wickedly and by night in the king's peace and in larceny, in the wood of Beck, which is enclosed and locked, stole four pigs. ..."

" Aumaricus venit et defendit totum de verbo in verbum, et dicit quod dominus suus Abbas de Westmonasterio habet boscum quendam vocatum Peenge et illo bosco cepit illos porcos. ..."

W. R. B. PRIDEAUX.

While rejecting any affinity between this name and Penkridge (the Cymric Pen-y-crug} and Penhurst (probably originally Pinehurst), I take the first constituent in Penkhurst (Sussex), Pangbourne (Berks), and Penistone (Yorks), to be the same as Penge. The most likely derivation of Penge I take to be the Anglo-Saxon word pynca, a point, related to the verb pyngan, to prick. Pynca would naturally become softened into Pinga, Penge,

and Penge, the final vowel being at length silent, as in Stonehenge. Pinkie seems to huve a still closer affinity to "pynca." Compare also Poynton, Poyntington, Sea- point, Greenpoint, Pierpoint, Hurstpierpoint, &c. I offer this, however, only as a sugges- tion. N. W. HILL. Xew York.

POT oo os (11 S. v. 29). MR. HILL is wrong in thinking that this horse's name is printed in this way " in all sporting books." He will find a portrait of the horse in vol. i. of Taunton's ' Celebrated Racehorses,' where the name is printed Pot 80' s. Indeed, I never saw it printed otherwise, though the horse is mentioned in White's ' History of the Turf,' in the Druid's works, and in many others. MR. HILL must have got hold of a work with a fallen numeral. The genesis of the hieroglyphic is that a lad in Lord Abingdon's stable, having been told to write "Potatoes" on the corn-bin, did it after the following fashion : Pot,oooo,oooo.

WlLLOUGHBY MAYCOCK.

GELLYFEDDAN, CYNGHORDY, AND LLETTY- SCILP (11 S. v. 28). Oelly means wood, grove, copse. I do not know the meaning of the second element. I might perhaps guess it aright, but there has been too much guessing about place-names.

Cynghor-dy means council- (or counsel-) house.

LleMy means lodgings or inn. Scilp is not Welsh. It may be a nickname, and the whole word may mean Scilp's lodgings or inn. DAVID SALMON.

Swansea.

Cynghordy ( = cynghor-\-ty) means " Coun- cil House." Lletty means " lodging," " inn." ScUp is scarcely a W T elsh word. In Gelly- feddan, gdly suggests the mutated form of cdli, " wood," " copse " ; but feddan is obscure to me. Is it a misreading of feddau ? Then it might be the mutated plural of bedd, " grave," used adjectivally. The whole word would =(y) gdli + beddau, meaning " (The) graves copse." H. I. B.

PEPYS'S ' DIARY ' : BRAYBROOKE EDI- TION (11 S. v. 6). The apparent mistake about Newport Pagnell is not quite set right by MR. C. LESLIE SMITH. The " well watered " town, with " like a Cathedral Church," must have been Newport Pagnell, not Bicester. As Pepys can hardly have gone back from Buckingham to Newport at night when he was going on to Oxford next day (and he arrived there in time to visit