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<3UEEN MARY'S ARMORIAL BEARINGS AT THE CORONATION.

As a student of heraldry I have been much interested in the different descriptions and illustrations of what Queen Mary's arms really are. I understand that Her Majesty, when Princess of Wales, had .granted to her as arms those of her mother the Duchess of Teck, quarterly with those of her father the Duke of Teck. And these, -of course, are : 1st and 4th (for Cam- bridge), the royal arms as borne by George III., differenced by a label of three points argent, the centre point charged with the St. George's Cross, and each of the other points with two hearts in pale gules. 2nd and 3rd (for Teck), Or, three stags' attires fesseways in pale, the points of each attire to the sinister sable, impaling Or, three lions passant in pale sable, langued gules, the dexter forepaws of the last ; over all an inescutcheon paly bendy and sinister sable and or. Supporters : on the dexter a lion guardant or, crowned with the royal crown proper ; on the sinister a stag proper. The whole shield ensigned with the royal crown. When the Queen was made a Lady of the Noble Order of the Garter, the shield would be placed within the garter. Sub- sequently Her Majesty was granted the additional impalement of the King's arms on the dexter.

In The Times for 3 November, 1910, an account is given of " the Queen's Flag," prepared at the College of Arms and approved by the King the description of which agrees with that of the arms.

A correct illustration of the Queen's arms figures in Burke' s ' Peerage,' &c. (1911). But in Debrett's 'Peerage,' &c. (1911) the Queen's arms are incorrectly shown, inasmuch as there is omitted there- from the inescutcheon gules charged with

the golden crown of Charlemagne, which the escutcheon of Hanover should bear surtout. Further, the Royal crown which was borne over the Hanover escutcheon is also omitted. The illustration of the Queen's Royal Standard (or Banner) in The Queen for 24 June, 1911,' and the Queen's Royal Garter Banner depicted in ' Black and White Coronation Souvenir ' (June, 1911) together with representations of the Queen's arms on illustrated advertise- ments follow the bad example set by Debrett. In the special Coronation number of The Sphere a correct Royal Standard of George III. (from 1816) is shown. But, strange to say, the arms figuring on the Queen's Throne and Chair of Estate used at the Coronation (as illustrated in different Coronation numbers that have appeared) are except for the helmet, crest, and lambrequin replicas of the King's arms on His Majesty's Throne and Chair of Estate. Even the motto " Dieu et mon Droit " appears in both cases. It is the same on Her Majesty's Throne in the House of Lords. I noticed that such was also the practice adopted at the Coronation of Queen Alex- andra, and have expected to see the question raised. So I now ask, Why are these anomalies allowed to persist ?

E. WILSON DOBBS. Toorak, Victoria.

DONNY FAMILY. Information is sought of the genealogy, armorial bearings, &c., of the Donny family. The family of this name in Belgium, of which General Baron Donny is the head, is descended from a Donny who settled in Bruges circa 1700, coming from Scotland. According to family tradition, he was of Irish extraction. It is thought he was a Jacobite. He was twice married. Both of his wives were members of the Catholic nobility of Belgium. It is presumed he was a Catholic when he came to Belgium, as in Belgian records no trace is found of his recantation. Search for the family in Ulster's office w-as fruitless. The name" does not appear in the Prerogative Wills. Does it appear in any army list or State paper of the Stuart period ? It has been suggested that the family is a branch of the Robertsons of the Clan Donachaidh. Are the Robertsons descended from the Lords of the Isles ? I have seen a statement to this effect, " according to Smibert and Douglas's ' Baronage.' ' Will some one verify this reference? I regret I cannot indicate it less vaguely. The Donny family