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A ST. HELENA PORTRAITIST : DENZIL IBBETSON (11 S. iii. 327). The following inscription is copied from a tombstone in Bromley Churchyard, Kent : In Memory of Arthur Ibbetson

son of

Denzil Ibbetson Esq r

Deputy Commissary General

Born 9 th May 1828

Died 12 th March 1843.

Also

Charlotte Jane only daughter of the late

Rev d Denzil Ibbetson

Rector of Halstead in this County

who died September 1 st 1851

aged 61 years.

The Rev. Denzil Ibbetson died 14 June, 1821.

A Denzil Ibbetson was killed 12 August, 1773 ; he was youngest son of Sir Henry Ibbetson, Bt.

Since writing the above 1 have ascertained from my grandmother, who knew Denzil Ibbetson, that he was son of the Rev. Denzil Ibbetson above mentioned. She also knew his mother, an inmate of Bromley College, and his three sons, of whom Denzil was the eldest ; he had an appointment in India, and married Clarissa, daughter of John Guilding, son of the Rev. John Guilding, D.D., by his wife Sarah Jane, also an inmate of Bromley College. The last-named died June, 1831 (?), aged 79, and was buried In Bromley churchyard. My grandmother does not remember the names of the two younger sons. F. M. R. HOLWORTHY.

Bickley, Kent.

TERRACE (11 S. iii. 207, 251, 291, 332). I am obliged to COL. PRIDEAUX for calling my attention to the two errors of attribu- tion and reference occurring in my reply at p. 291 ; but although the Crace Catalogue says " R. Green," the engraver of the plate was B. Green. A copy is before me, and Mr. Austin Brereton in reproducing it gives the name of the engraver in full, "Ben- jamin Green." ALECK ABRAHAMS.
 * The Buildings called the Adelphi ' in 1771

SHAKESPEARE AND THE PRAYER BOOK (US. iii. 301). W. C. B. might add to his interesting note on this subject a reminiscence of the Duty toward thy Neighbour to be found in ' Hamlet,' III. ii. 351 :

" So I do still, by these pickers and stealers." Shakespeare's contemporaries seem to have been impressed by this quaint expression from the Prayer Book. They frequently

transposed the words of the passage when quoted by shepherds and clowns, thus :

" I can keep my tongue from picking and steal- ing, and my hands from lying and slandering." ' Mucedorus,' I. iv. 129.

" Keeping your hands from lying and slander- ing, and your tongues from picking and stealing." ' Selimus,' 1981.

Harrison, too, uses the expression, but he was a clergyyman :

" The people in the mean time live idly, disso- lutely, and by picking and stealing one from another." 'Elizabethan England' (Scott ed.), p. 133.

P. A. McELWAiNE.

Dublin.

CLERGYMEN AND CRESTS (US. iii. 329). F. T. F.'s suggestion that clergymen, as " men of peace," should bear their arms on a cartouche, derives no warrant from mediaeval heraldry, and is calculated to disturb the repose of more than one departed prelate militant. With what fine scorn would such a proposal have been received by Antony Bek, Bishop of Durham, one of Edward I.'s most puissant generals of divi- sion, whose cross potent was so highly dis- tinguished among the banners of the Plan- tagenet army. And after Bannockburn, in the dismal years of the seoond Edward, who was there but William de Meltoun, Arch- bishop of York, to hold the English marches against the triumphant Scots ?

HERBERT MAXWELL.

One hears it sometimes dogmatically asserted that clerics have no right to use helmets or crests. There is no ground for such an assertion, although it is legitimate to question the propriety of the use, either by ecclesiastics or by ladies, of what are primarily intended for emplovment in war or martial exercises.

In most countries the nelmet and crest are replaced, for ecclesiastics, by a flat low- crowned hat, indicating the rank of the bearer by its colour, and the number of tassels of its cords. These hats, however, have never been in common heraldic use either in England or in Germany, and in the latter country, owing to the frequent union of ecclesiastical and temporal rank in the same person, crests and helms are frequently used by the dignified clergy. In England I should say that while a clergyman may, if he please, use the crest of his family, it would be more in accordance with custom and propriety to forgo such use. Foreign ecclesiastics often bear their arms on a simple oval escutcheon or cartouche, instead of on