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near Eye, Suffolk. He had the following children : John of Thurlow, Suffolk (bap- tized 22 March, 1674/5, at Godalming), married Theodora, daughter and coheiress of Joseph Finch of Westonhanger, Kent, and had three sons, John, Joseph, William, and four daughters, Rebecca, m. Thomas Hooke ; Mary, m. the Rev. Christopher Law- son (d. without issue 1717) ; Elizabeth and Arabella, who died young. Further details can be found in Manning's ' Surrey,' vol. i. pp. 608 and 609. A. R. GRIDLEY.

"MEN, WOMEN, AND HEBVEYS " (11 S. viii. 250). The authority for the attribu- tion of this saying to Lady Mary Wortley Montagu is Lady Louisa Stuart, who in the her to Lord Wharncliffe's edition of ' The Letters and Works,' 3 vols., 1817, says of Lady Mary and Lord Hervey :
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" Their intimacy did not always prevent her from laughing at him, as is proved by the well- known sentence, almost a proverb, ' that this world consisted of men, women, and Herveys,' which was originally hers."

This passage will be found in vol. i. p. 67 (not 64, as stated by Bartlett). In Mr. Moy Thomas's edition, published by Bickers & Son, 2 vols., undated 7 but, I think, issued in 1860, and frequently reprinted it occurs in vol. i. p. 95.

Lady Louisa is a delightful writer, but her accuracy is not always to be depended on. At p. 2 of the ' Anecdotes ' she says that Pinkerton in his ' Walpoliana ' mentions that Horace Walpole told him that he had known Lady Mary Wortley Montagu from the very beginning of her life, having been her playfellow in his childhood, and she remarks that this could not have been the case, as Lady Mary was the contemporary of his mother and his aunt, and at least seven-and-twenty when the former brought him into the world. What Walpole really said was that Lady Mary " was a playfellow of a friend of mine when both were children " a very different thing ('Walpoliana,' 2nd ed., vol. i. p. 3). W. F. PBIDEAUX.

" TRAILBASTON " (11 S. viii. 232, 292). Justices of Trailbaston were originally appointed by Edward I., in the thirty - eacond year of his reign, 1303, to administer justice during his absence in the Scotch and French wars. They were so called from the " baston," or staff, delivered to them as the badge of their office, which was to make inquisitions throughout the king- dom touching the extortions of officers,

intrusions into other men's lands, breaches of the peace, and other offences.

The Bills preferred to the Justices of Trailbaston from Edward I. to Edward III. are amongst the Records of the Exchequer (Treasury of the Receipt Department), at the Public Record Office, Chancery Lane.

I have not seen any recent article on this subject. E. A. FRY.

227, Strand, W.C.

ANCIENT WIT AND HUMOUR (11 S. viii. 289). Your correspondent may like to know of the following book : ' Greek Wit : a Col- lection of Smart Sayings and Anecdotes,' translated from Greek prose writers by F. A. Paley (Bell & Sons, 1881).

WM. H. PEET.

TRINCULO does not make quite clear what he wants, but if he includes the contrast between mediaeval and modern humour he may consult Dr. George Neilson's ' Caudatus Anglicus,' reviewed in ' X. & Q.,' 8 S. x. 148, and printed also in Transactions of Glasgow Archaeological Society, New Series, ii. 441. I think Dr. Neilson has also written separately on mediaeval humour. WILLIAM GEORGE BLACK.

Ramoyle, Glasgow.

PICTURES OF THE DEITY IN CHURCHES (11 S. vii. 450; viii. 34). The sequel to the drastic action of the Bishop of Salamis in rending the painted door-cloth or veil is supplied by the ' Homily against Peril of Idolatry ' thus, after quoting the passage transcribed at the second reference :

" And afterwards the same Epiphanius, sending another unpainted cloth, for that painted one which he had torn, to the said Patriarch, writeth thus : ' I pray you, will the elders of that place to receive this cloth, which I have sent by this bearer, and command them that from henceforth no such painted cloths, contrary to pur religion, be hanged in the Church of Christ. For it becometh your goodness rather to have this care, that you take away such scrupulosity ; which is unfitting for the Church of Christ, and offensive to the people committed to your charge.' And this Epistle, as worthy to be* read of many, did St. Jerome himself translate into the Latin tongue."

That the hermit of Bethlehem regarded the zealous bishop as a " great divine " is clear from the next few sentences of the narrative :

" And, that ye may know that St. Jerome had this holy and learned bishop Kpiphanius in most high estimation, and therefore did translate this Epistle as a writing of authority, hear what a testimony the said St. Jerome giveth him in another place, in his treaty against the errors of John, Bishop of Jerusalem, where he hath these