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it is important, for pedigree purposes, to determine which was the mother of his son and heir, Reginald de Grey.

Now, as we find (Collins, ib.) that in 5C Henry III., 1265, the year of his father's death, his son Reginald de Grey (Glaus 50 H. III., m. 5) was appointed (Pat. 50 H. III. m. 23) Sheriff of the county of Nottingham and Governor of Nottingham Castle, he would, had he been the son of Lady Joane, have been, supposing him to have been born 36 or 37 Henry III., 1251 or 1252, at the most 13 or 14 years of age in 50 Henry III. , 1265. This fact, unless the above appoint- ments were merely nominal ones, combined with the statement upon which all authori- ties are agreed that in 9 Edward I. he was Justice of Chester (when, if Joane's son, he would have been 29 or 30 only), should, I think, be sufficient evidence that Reginald was the son of John by Emma de Glanville his first wife, and that Lady Joane was his second wife, by whom, apparently, he had no issue. That John was a widower when he married Lady Joane is proved from the statement in Burke's ' Extinct Peerage ' (ib.) that John's daughter was married to Lady Joane's son prior to her own marriage with John, and supports my view that Emma de Glanville was his first wife and mother of Reginald de Grey.

The correct pedigree of the above Henry de Grey is not easy to determine. Collins (ib., p. 27) is the only authority I have found who records that Henry was the son of John de Grey, living 22 Henry II. and 1 John (by his wife Hawise). This John, according to the same writer, was the son of Auchitel de Grey (by his wife Eva, daughter of Baldwin de Redvers, Earl of Devon : ' Test, de Nev.,' p. 112), son of Richard de Croy or Grey (Blore's ' Rutland,' p. 167), who married Mabilia, and was dead in 17 Henry I. (Banks's tions to vol. ii. p. 13), son of Auchitel de Croy or de Grey mentioned in Domesday (vol. i. p. 161), which Auchitel, Collins (ib., p. 22) says he "may conclude, was the son
 * Dormant and Extinct Baronage,' iv., addi-
 * one Ulfcytel," King's Minister, alias

Thane, of King Ethelred. If this was so, how came Auchitel of Domesday and his descendants by the name of De Crov or De Grey ?

Banks's ' Dormant and Extinct Baronage,' iv. (as above), states that Auchitel de Croy or de Grey of Domesday was the younger son of John, Lord de Croy (of whom presently), and on the authority of Blore's ' Rutland,' p. 167, gives the same descent as Collins

down to John de Grey and his wife Hawise, who, although they had other issue, were not, apparently, the parents of Henry de Grey of Thurrock.

Who then, it may be asked, were the parents of this Henry de Grey ? If we turn to Blore's 'Rutland,' p. 162, quoted in Banks's ' Baronies in Fee,' i. 230, we find that Henry, first Baron Grey of Codnor who had Thurrock, married Isolda, niece and coheir to Robert Bardolf, Baron of Codnor, which Isolda was dead 30 Henry III. (Rot. Fin. ejusd. aim. m. 6), and was him- self dead 3 Henry III. (Claus. Rot. ejusd. ann., p. 2) was the son of John who came into England with Henry II., his ancestors having chiefly resided in France (Walt. D'Yvetoft's ' Mem. de Normandie '), married Eleanor, daughter of Roger de Clare, and died 11 John. This John was the son of Henry, Lord of Ponte de 1'Arche, whose wife was Ellen, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun. This Henry died 33 Henry I. His parents were Raynald de Cracci (identical with Collins's Sir Arnold de Grey, Kt.), Lord of Eaton, co. Bucks, who died 10 William Rufus (Ord. Vitalis, 810 c.), and Joan his wife, daughter of James, and sister and heir of William, Lord of Ponte de 1'Arche in Normandy, which Raynald was elder brother to the Auchitel de Croy or de Grey of Domesday. These two were the sons of John, Lord of Croy, w r ho came into England with the Conqueror, returned to Normandy, and died there (Walt. D'Yvetoft's ' Mem. de Normandie '), by his wife Adela, daughter of William Fitz-Osberne, Earl of Hereford.

Between two such authorities as Blore and Collins it is difficult to say which pedigree of Henry de Grey is the correct one. I am disposed, however, to give the preference to Blore's, for the reasons that Collins makes no attempt to explain how Auchitel of Domesday, as son of Ulfcytel, came by the name of De Croy or De Grey, and does not Droduce any authority for his statement that Henry de Grey of Thurrock was son of John de Grey and Hawise his wife.

We now come to a further disagreement Between authorities as to the parentage of John, Lord of Croy, to whom I promised above I would return later.

According to Banks's ' Dormant and Ex- )inct Baronage,' ii. 224, and Collins's * Peer- age,' 1741 ed., vol. ii. p. 22, this John was he son of Rollo or Fulbert, Lord of Croy. On the other hand, Blore's ' Rutland,' p. 162, says he was the son of Raynard, son of F albert, and brother to Arlotte, nother of William the Conqueror.